Why China Has the Right to 'Build Sovereignty' in the South China Sea

[70U63]

Wow, a country that is in deep shxt making this type of statement?
Do you seriously feel good?

Oh really, with 1 million Chinese casualties. Just comparing N korea & S korea right now then tell me who is humiliated

 

[Genesis]

Did you see the trade balance with US? almost 3 to 1, who has the most to lose?

What is this, buying at your local drug store? Who has more to lose, you kill me and I blow your limbs and eyes out, who has more to lose? You want to make that trade no second thought?

Who has more to lose, come on man.

Ok, last one before I go.

I do consider the economic aspect; I told you that's the reason why china got away with things until now. This is not 1989 and the stakes are far, far more important. US has a policy where it needs to maintain the unipolar world, they have a policy of preventing the rising of any challenger by any means, you know what people I'm talking about right? Its very well known, I don't have time now to get links, etc.

So, Its now or never, there is no space for 2 tigers in the asian mountain. This situation could it have been made much more difficult for USA to set up, but china, behaving like.... well, like china, made it easy for US. Just wait for after Obama, at the latest.

Ok, no more until tonight, business is more important.

This is the interesting part, if China is GSP, what does it matter what he does? He can spit in your face, punch your mom, and piss on your coach and you are still not going to be able to do anything.

On the other hand, Russia, didn't do much, Ukraine is not an American key interest, because Russia is not as protected as China, US is going to do it anyways.

The ease of justification isn't as important as the feasibility of the retaliation.

You seem to think we gave American an "easy" way to deal with us, but that's the least important part, THE MOST IMPORTANT part is America needs to be ABLE to deal with us. If they can do this, it hardly matters if I make it easy or not.

Just like if GSP wants me dead, I'm dead, doesn't matter if I sent him a birthday card every year, or kick him in the balls for no reason.

 

[TaiShang]

On June 4, 2015, Chinese Ambassador to the US Cui Tiankai had an interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour.

The following is the edited transcript of the interview:

AMANPOUR: Why is it, Mr. Ambassador, that China feels the need to change the status quo with building this enormous amount of territory, dredging and building in the South China Sea?

CUI: Well, first of all, I have to point out what China is doing there is fully within the scope of our sovereignty. So there is nothing for others to get worried. Besides, this is not an issue and should not be an issue between China and the United States because the United States has no territorial claims in the region.

AMANPOUR: You say it's within your territorial sovereign rights. But you are changing the status quo. You are building something out of nothing. Vice President Biden has called it a major rupture, a rift, a fault line.

CUI: I think that the fact is the status quo has been changed by others for a long, long time. So what we are doing is to sort of restore the status quo as it should be. So there is no reason for others to make such accusations against China. What we are doing is to -- just to build facilities that will mainly help ships of China and other countries. Of course we have some defense facilities there but it's only for defense.

AMANPOUR: Well, let me ask you, because obviously there have been military reconnaissance. There have been planes that have gone to try to see what's going on. And of course as you know, CNN was on one of them recently and had to turn back when they were challenged by Chinese authorities.You know, this is a very tense situation. Is China considering putting up an air defense zone around that part of the South China Sea?

CUI: Well, I hope CNN would also show to the people what others have done for a long, long time in the region. That would be more factual presentation. And besides, what we are doing is, as I said, mainly for civilian purposes. So there is really no need for others to send so many military reconnaissance planes to the region. And this is really, against the letter and the spirit of the Convention of the Law of the sea.

AMANPOUR: Ambassador, do you foresee China putting up an air exclusion zone around that part of the South China Sea, as has happened in the East China Sea?

CUI: The United States was the first country in the world to set up such zones. And there are now over 20 countries who have already set up such zones. So China certainly has a right to do the same. But whether we will do it or not will be based on our assessment of the situation and we will certainly do it with caution.

AMANPOUR: I do hear what you're saying and those words you use are, I assume, calculated to try to lower the temperature. And the United States appears to be trying to lower the temperature as well, asking all its allies and friends in the region, everybody, to stop building in the sea. But a newspaper with ties to the government has said the following -- and I'd love to get your reaction to this. Basically, "If the United States' bottom line is that China has to halt its activities, then a U.S.-China war is inevitable in the South China Sea." Really, Ambassador, a war?

CUI: Well, first of all, I wish the U.S. would really do something to lower the temperature, to reduce the tensions there. So I hope people in the U.S. will refrain from making all the coercive statements, will refrain from making all the coercive actions there. Besides, I don't think that we should allow this single issue to dominate our bilateral agenda. So I don't think that we should go to confrontation and conflicts just over this issue.

AMANPOUR: Well, obviously everybody hopes that this particular crisis will see the temperature lowered.

AMANPOUR: Let me ask you about an area of cooperation that's very obvious and important and that is on the issue of climate change. Now China, which is now the world's biggest polluter, has promised to cap emissions and to do all sorts of important things by the year 2030, I think it is. How seriously is the Chinese government taking its commitment to tackle this really important problem? And we do always see these dreadful smog days in China, of course.

CUI: I really believe that what we have in common far outweighs what we differ from each other. And we should not allow our differences overshadow our common interests and growing need for cooperation. And climate change would be a good example for cooperation. We made a good statement last November during President Obama's visit to China and I'm sure we'll continue to make progress and we will do more to respond to climate change together with other countries.

 

[sword1947]

they are our islands, no other reason

 

[HRM YANG]

I understand , human life in China is nothing, inhumane and uncivilized

another damn chick, whatever China is superior than where you are staying, although in your words we are pigeons in the cage. Your trolling would provoke outrage in Afghanistan, I have some Afghanistani friends, they all appreciate China, they may want F you hardly if they know what you said, by the way, one is a major of army.

 

[xunzi]

Make no mistake about it, no amount of intimidation and threats will prevent us from protecting our territorial integrity.

 

[xunzi]

I find it a little too funny that they want us to stop building in OUR OWN island? Can you believe that? LOL

 

[TaiShang]

Our islands, our rules. Come and stop us if you have guts.

 

[Jason Zhao]

Why China Has the Right to 'Build Sovereignty' in the South China Sea | Shen Dingli

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By Professor and Vice Dean at the Institute of International Studies, Fudan University


SHANGHAI -- Lately the U.S. has issued some pointed remarks in regard to China's reclamation activity on some of its islands in the South China Sea. It is not impossible to understand some of the American apprehension, especially over how China would use its expanded capacity. The U.S. has long been keen on the freedom of flight and navigation in international space and water and is thus wary of the implications of China's reclamation. Such issues have prompted both countries to set up some 90 official mechanisms to channel respective concerns and to promote cooperation. The upcoming U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue this summer and the following summit in September in New York are top-level dialogues for such exchanges.

Threats Not Helpful

In this regard, it is unhelpful to issue threats by challenging China's buildup of islands through sending American warships or spy planes into the airspace and those waters within 12 nautical miles of the expanded islands. It is upsetting that the Pentagon dispatched its Poseidon P-8A naval reconnaissance plane to some of these reclaimed islands on May 20.

International law has not prohibited the reclamation of land or islands from the sea. For instance, Shanghai has expanded greatly since the Song Dynasty by reclaiming land from the sea. Songjiang, now a part of internal land here, used to be coastal many centuries ago. Such reclamation has been continuing all the time. Japan has built Kansai International Airport through reclamation, Hong Kong has done similarly for its current airport and Dubai has engineered its famous World Islands projects for leisure purposes. Certainly they have expanded their territory and gained associate benefits. Contemporary international maritime law doesn't disallow such activities.

Maritime reclamation has been a part of our life. For a long time, Japan has been fortifying the Okinotori Islands and demanded an exclusive economic zone derived from its fortified structure. However, America has been silent on this. For a similarly long time, Vietnam has reclaimed and expanded some of the islands of the Spratly under its occupation, earlier than China is doing. Again, America has made no real objection.

It should be noted that China and Vietnam have disputes over some of these islands in the South China Sea. China has claimed that it owns all islands/islets on its side of the U-shaped line and it thought that decades ago Vietnam had agreed with China's claim, made at the time when Hanoi needed China's support for its independence and unification fight with France and the U.S.

Last year China submitted to the UN its evidence of Vietnam's past admission of China's sovereignty over the entire Spratly and Paracel islands. China has difficulty with Vietnam's negating its past commitment and present occupation of some of them and subsequent reclamation.

Despite this, China has joined the Declaration On The Conduct Of Parties In The South China Sea with all ASEAN members, committing to using peaceful means only to settle disputes. Lately Beijing has embarked on a process of preparing for negotiating the Code of Conduct on the South China Sea with the aim of eventually concluding a multilateral, legally bound framework of resolving disputes peacefully in the region.

Clearly, China's handling of the disputes has shown its intent to maintain peace and tranquility collaboratively in the South China Sea. It is notable that, per the UN Charter, countries have the right of self-defense to protect national sovereignty and territorial integrity, with or without specific UN authorization. China is willing to abide by higher standards so as to resolve international disputes through cooperation.

However, it is unlikely that China can expect Vietnam and other claimants in the region to yield on the disputed islands/islets that they have already occupied. Consequently, China will be less able to manage the South China Sea when its business vastly blossoms in the area.

As with many other ocean-going countries, China's sea-based transportation heavily taps the South China Sea. Its fishery business also heavily depends on this region, as has been the case for over 10 centuries. Lately China is also advancing its offshore oil drilling capacity. All these would demand China to secure alternative physical base to protect its legitimate maritime interests there, either to maintain civil maritime order, or to keep watching the regional development.

America is surely gauging the strategic impact of China's buildup. It is anxious about China's rise and keeps watching all the time. In a similar vein, China needs to watch how the U.S. is watching, and its South China Sea-based reclamation will be helpful in this regard.

"China cannot build sovereignty."


Legally speaking, the U.S. cannot stop China's buildup, but it will not honor the territorial space and water China claims. In the words of a U.S. official, "China cannot build sovereignty." However, China does acquire sovereign space and water as long as it has the sovereignty of an island, and international law does allow attaching additional structures connected with the island. The U.S. may argue that China's reclamation doesn't add to its chance of an exclusive economic zone, but it cannot deprive it from acquiring territorial space and water.

Easing U.S. Concerns

To ease the U.S. concern, China is taking a number of public stances.

First of all, it pledges not to threaten the freedom of navigation in and flight over the South China Sea.

"China welcomes the U.S. and other countries to make use of the facilities it will build."


Secondly, it has committed to offering public goods of weather forecasting and maritime rescue in the region with its reclaimed capacity. China welcomes the U.S. and other countries, as well as international organizations, to make use of the facilities it will build, so as to advance cooperation on humanitarian aid and disaster relief. After all, there are many ways to dispel suspicion and build trust other than by sending a warship or spy plane into the contested space and water in the name of free navigation or innocent passage, either to invite a fiasco or test respective ability to deescalate at the last minute.

BECAUSE VIETNAM, PHILIPINE FIRST!
WHAT DID SAID AGAINST THEM?? NOTHING!!! WHO DISTROYED THE PEACSE OF CHINA SOUTH SEA??? WHO ??? HU?? HAHAHA

USA OTHER COUNTRY DARE NOT TO SAY ANTHING, THAT NOT MEANS YOU ARE RIGHT, JUST BECAUSE OF YOU HAVE STRONG POWER ON TROOPS.

THAT NOT MEANS CHINA SCALE YOU.

WE ONLY ACCEPT THE TRUTH AND VALUE OUR HISTORY.

ONE COUNTRY DO NOT VALUE HIS HISTORY, HOW TO SAY A COUNTRY!! OF COURSE, USA HAS NO HISTORY!