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KSA recruiting Pak instructors to train Syrian rebels
November 08, 2013




NEW YORK - Saudi Arabia has enlisted the help of Pakistani instructors to train Syrian rebel forces in a new push to topple President Bashar al-Assad’s government, according to a report in the Foreign Policy magazine.


Quoting three sources, David Kenner, the magazine Middle East Editor, said that the Saudi Arabia took the step after having largely abandoned hope that the United States will spearhead international efforts to oust the Syrian government. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, alongwith the CIA, also supported the Afghan rebels against the Soviet-backed government during the 1980s, the report pointed out. “That collaboration contains a cautionary note for the current day.

The Afghan rebels were unable to govern after the old regime fell, paving the way for chaos and the rise of the Taliban. Some of the insurgents, meanwhile, transformed into al Qaeda and eventually turned their weapons against their former patrons,” it said.

While the risk has been discussed in Riyadh, the report said that the Saudis with knowledge of the training programme describe it as an antidote to extremism, not a potential cause of it.
They have described the Kingdom’s effort as having two goals — toppling the Assad regime, and weakening al Qaeda linked groups in the country.

Prince Turki, the former Saudi Arabian intelligence chief and envoy to Washington, said in a recent interview that the mainstream Opposition must be strengthened so that it could protect itself “these extremists who are coming from all over the place” to impose their own ideologies on Syria.
The ramped up Saudi Arabian effort has been spurred by the Kingdom’s disillusionment with the United States, according to the report.

A Saudi Arabian insider with knowledge of the programme described how Riyadh had determined to move ahead with its plans after coming to the conclusion that President Barack Obama was simply not prepared to move aggressively to oust Assad. “We didn’t know if the Americans would give [support] or not, but nothing ever came through,” the source said.

“Now we know the President just didn’t want it.” Pakistan’s role, according to the report, is so far relatively small, though another source with knowledge of Saudi Arabian thinking said that a plan was currently being debated to give Pakistan responsibility for training two rebel brigades, or around 5,000 to 10,000 fighters.

A State Department official declined to comment on the Saudi Arabian training programme.
Saudi Arabia’s decision to move forward with training the Syrian rebels independent of the United States is the latest sign of a split between the two longtime allies. In Syria, Saudi Arabian officials were aggrieved by Washington’s decision to cancel a strike on the Assad regime in reprisal for its chemical weapons attack on the Damascus suburbs this summer.

A top Saudi Arabian official told the Washington Post that Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan was unaware of the cancellation of the strike. “We found about it from CNN,” he said.
As a result, Saudi Arabia has given up on hopes that the United States would spearhead efforts to topple Assad and decided to press forward with its own plans to bolster rebel forces, it said, adding, that that effort relies on a network of Saudi Arabian allies in addition to Pakistan, such as Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, and France.

Given the increased Islamisation of rebel forces on the ground, analysts say, it only makes sense that Saudi Arabia would throw its support behind Salafist groups, the report said. These militias “happen to be the most strategically powerful organisations on the ground,” said Charles Lister, an analyst with IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Centre. “If Saudi Arabia does indeed follow such a strategy... it could well stand to become a major power player in the conflict.”

In calling on Pakistan to assist in toppling Assad, it said, Saudi Arabia can draw on its deep alliance with Islamabad. The two countries have long shared defence ties: Saudi Arabia has given more aid to Pakistani than to any non-Arab country, according to former CIA officer Bruce Riedel, and also allegedly helped fund Islamabad’s nuclear programme.

In return, Pakistan based troops in Saudi Arabia multiple times over three decades to protect the Royals grip on power, according to the report. The current Pakistani government, in particular, is closely tied to Saudi Arabia, Foreign Policy magazine said. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was ousted from power in 1999 by a military coup - the Saudis allegedly brokered a deal that kept him from prison.
“For Saudi Arabia, Nawaz Sharif is a key partner in a key allied State,” Arif Rafiq, scholar at the Middle East Institute, was quoted as stating.

Pakistan is already grappling with its own sectarian bloodshed and must mind its relationship with Iran, while its foreign policy is focused on negotiations with the Taliban over the future of Afghanistan and its longtime rivalry with India, Foreign Policy said. “They have their hands full,” the source said. “And even if they want to, I don’t think they will be able to give much concrete help.”

KSA recruiting Pak instructors to train Syrian rebels 
Here we go again :rolleyes:
 
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"While the risk has been discussed in Riyadh, the report said that the Saudis with knowledge of the training programme describe it as an antidote to extremism, not a potential cause of it.
They have described the Kingdom’s effort as having two goals — toppling the Assad regime, and
weakening al Qaeda linked groups in the country."



Contradiction ???? :what:
 
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Pakistan is already grappling with its own sectarian bloodshed and must mind its relationship with Iran, while its foreign policy is focused on negotiations with the Taliban over the future of Afghanistan and its longtime rivalry with India, Foreign Policy said. “They have their hands full,” the source said. “And even if they want to, I don’t think they will be able to give much concrete help.”
KSA recruiting Pak instructors to train Syrian rebels
Here we go again

so now pakistan has another cash cow waiting ...:bounce:

great ...now go full hog and smash the syrian regeme in name of Ummah and have two more enemies

a. assad regime
b.iran
:enjoy:
 
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Its a blunder that Pakistan is trying to get indulged into Saudi Arabia and Iran rivalry.
 
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Our priorities are well placed - we cant send 25 million of our children to school but we can train rebels in a country that has zero strategic value to our own interests. Good going Pakistan, this is another Sharif gift !

reading few media gimmicks based reports recently clubbing KSA and Pakistan (first nukes now this BS) sans any backup proofs, it seems the world political psyops at work.

We need to be careful . Because

1. Such training programe is not feasible

2. The defence planners are not foolish to commit such a suicide.

3.KSA defence weapons including airpower are literally in hands of Americans. Why will we even think of handing our secrets to USA via KSA?
 
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reading few media gimmicks based reports recently clubbing KSA and Pakistan (first nukes now this BS) sans any backup proofs, it seems the world political psyops at work.

We need to be careful . Because

1. Such training programe is not feasible

2. The defence planners are not foolish to commit such a suicide.

3.KSA defence weapons including airpower are literally in hands of Americans. Why will we even think of handing our secrets to USA via KSA?

are you talking about saudi neukes "on order" from pakistan or about pakistani instruckters here jana ji:azn:
 
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Mazerat ke saath arz karoonga ...i think this new development is ot such a big news it is that its been disclosed on media cause pakistan has been sending its instructors to arab nations since earli 1960's to fight for ummah
+ after US-Saudia plan to attack Syria got leaked pakistan was the obvious choice ...any way it wil have grave repucurtions for Pakistan if it ever goes ahead to play a paid mercinarry for Saudia Again .... 
please jana ji care to explain both and how they are inter conected as if you say about neukes then USA already has a great deal of information about your neukes + your Airforce ..

but if your talking about your defence prepardeness being compromised if pakistan sending its instructers to SA rto fight aginst syria and toppling assad regeme the its laughable ..any way good luck with "BOTH"
 
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I do not see how Pakistan can do otherwise. Syria is a proxy war between the Shia and the Sunni being fought out in the Middle East.

Pakistan is a Sunni country. It cannot and will not remain neutral in this war. And this war is only going to spread.

The reason why the US and Israel are sitting by silently watching is that this war only furthers their own interests in the region. Whether Pakistan joins overtly or covertly, the die has already been cast.
 
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Mazerat ke saath arz karoonga ...i think this new development is ot such a big news it is that its been disclosed on media cause pakistan has been sending its instructors to arab nations since earli 1960's to fight for ummah
+ after US-Saudia plan to attack Syria got leaked pakistan was the obvious choice ...any way it wil have grave repucurtions for Pakistan if it ever goes ahead to play a paid mercinarry for Saudia Again .... 

please jana ji care to explain both and how they are inter conected as if you say about neukes then USA already has a great deal of information about your neukes + your Airforce ..

but if your talking about your defence prepardeness being compromised if pakistan sending its instructers to SA rto fight aginst syria and toppling assad regeme the its laughable ..any way good luck with "BOTH"

1. Syria attack has failed .

2. Saudia does not know anything about Pak nukes .

3. There is no direct war in that region where we can think over sending such instructors. We at State level cant intervene in internal rifts in a country.

4. Though they can hire individuals

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What\s wrong with friends helping each-other out? Saudi Arabia helped you in many cases and so did you.
 
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