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Who is the real benificiary of the status quo at LoC?

Nonsense thread

A country with one tenth of indian resoiurces AND one quarter the land mass will bleed india with a thousand cuts,

,MEDEVIL NONSENSE talk

wake up SMELL the Coffe

I see space rockets . call centres , thriving middle class , trade , exports $$$$$$$$$$ IN INDIA

I DONT SEE that in Pakistan
 
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Nonsense thread

A country with one tenth of indian resoiurces AND one quarter the land mass will bleed india with a thousand cuts,

,MEDEVIL NONSENSE talk

wake up SMELL the Coffe

I see space rockets . call centres , thriving middle class , trade , exports $$$$$$$$$$ IN INDIA

I DONT SEE that in Pakistan

STFU
 
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Modi and Sanghis.....election rallies must include....mooooo torrr jawab and countless bullets, and Modi's famous free hand to military when he became PM..Sanghis are happy with these statements and actions.

Nonsense thread

A country with one tenth of indian resoiurces AND one quarter the land mass will bleed india with a thousand cuts,

,MEDEVIL NONSENSE talk

wake up SMELL the Coffe

I see space rockets . call centres , thriving middle class , trade , exports $$$$$$$$$$ IN INDIA

I DONT SEE that in Pakistan
Please send some coffee to india,
 
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Every since 26/11 India has been firing on all guns and has successfully shamed Pakistani terrorism across the world. Of course Pakistanis haven't helped themselves, but this is the new India. A country that finds more backing than Pakistan in the world. A country's clout that cannot be dismissed anymore and a country continually growing as a military power. India is not interested in talks anymore given the deceiving nature of previous ones. We will engage more forcefully as and when we please. Wait and watch.

there is another fact that Indian official don't want to accept publicly and that is Pakistan is getting even stronger than India as the time goes and the fact that Pakistan does not have money and stretch economically is a myth of last 20 years. There is yet another fact that India might be a bigger market and hence listened to by other countries no country can disappoint Pakistan either for her 220 million population and extremely fast growing middle class.
 
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After this recent incident in which Pakistan Army has killed 4 Indians soldiers at the LoC, I closely started following the stories from the Indian media in hope to find some reasonable voice.
No marks for guessing that I failed in that to a great extent. There is blood in their eyes and almost all of them are acting like ( for the lack of a better word ) a rabid dog who has bloody eyes and is ready to pounce on you. You'd say this is their usual response and it doesn't matter as far Pakistan is concerened. And you'd be right in saying that. However, a slight difference this time is that they are really searching for answers and are begging their political and military establishment to chalk out a road map or formula to get rid of this issue ( of loosing soldiers regularly ) once and for all. Also, I sense a little bit of realization of the fact that war with Pakistan is not a card they can play. Offcourse their military establishment is well aware of this fact since long but their media which is usually blood thirsty is also raising this point albeit unwillingly. There seems to be a feeling there that despite the bluster of the super power tag, military might and 'punishing Pakistan', in the grand scheme of things, it is Pakistan who is being real cheeky, is bleeding them through a thousand cuts and doesn't mind the status quo at LoC.

Is this precisely what Pakistan aims to achieve because we are doing just that and doing it in a way which is making them feel the heat.

Indian Media is not Indian Govt .
We knows that Army will eventually take revenge and escalate cost for Pakistan.

Both ways unlike in earlier decades you cant expect any kind of concession from us ,their play would be their own time schedule .Indian side wont talk to you .
They knows Pakistan will keep say samething even if they squeezed like anything .

Every since 26/11 India has been firing on all guns and has successfully shamed Pakistani terrorism across the world. Of course Pakistanis haven't helped themselves, but this is the new India. A country that finds more backing than Pakistan in the world. A country's clout that cannot be dismissed anymore and a country continually growing as a military power. India is not interested in talks anymore given the deceiving nature of previous ones. We will engage more forcefully as and when we please. Wait and watch.

For us ,this is a training and finding loop holes .A nuisance or disturbance that is far from main land India .
Only disapoointment is loss of lives but our forces know how to take revenge.
 
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IMO, India prefers the the status quo. Mainly, due to its bigger size, can sustain the war of attrition for long period. That said, really feel sorry for the loss of human life on the both sides of border.
 
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After this recent incident in which Pakistan Army has killed 4 Indians soldiers at the LoC, I closely started following the stories from the Indian media in hope to find some reasonable voice.
No marks for guessing that I failed in that to a great extent. There is blood in their eyes and almost all of them are acting like ( for the lack of a better word ) a rabid dog who has bloody eyes and is ready to pounce on you. You'd say this is their usual response and it doesn't matter as far Pakistan is concerened. And you'd be right in saying that. However, a slight difference this time is that they are really searching for answers and are begging their political and military establishment to chalk out a road map or formula to get rid of this issue ( of loosing soldiers regularly ) once and for all. Also, I sense a little bit of realization of the fact that war with Pakistan is not a card they can play. Offcourse their military establishment is well aware of this fact since long but their media which is usually blood thirsty is also raising this point albeit unwillingly. There seems to be a feeling there that despite the bluster of the super power tag, military might and 'punishing Pakistan', in the grand scheme of things, it is Pakistan who is being real cheeky, is bleeding them through a thousand cuts and doesn't mind the status quo at LoC.

Is this precisely what Pakistan aims to achieve because we are doing just that and doing it in a way which is making them feel the heat.


Missed the trees for the woods.

Not all wars are the shooting kind. Shooting wars are the very last ( and most unsuitable) resort and must not be attempted without a clearly defined end state Eg : 1971.

Pakistan has been in a state of war for years & its effects are visible. Observe :

-Never before was the PA engaged permanently & inextricably on both the East & Western borders.
-The PA, PAF & PN spends a substantial % of resources in protecting itself from the people it is supposed to defend even in Pindi, Karachi & Shamsi to name a few.
- A permanent state of unhinged & unpredictable anxiety exists within the nation, not even school children are safe in their schools.
- Acts of terrorism & unrest are not confined to specific areas .
- Terror has strong religious backing, support, a mind of its own & justification and organs of the state (PA) are with the religious fundamentals, the writ of the Govt is contested. People do not question the religious groups.
- Political instability persists.
- Internationally & diplomatically things are far from hunky dory

A fallout is lack of economic activity. Whatever little exists ( since CPEC is considered a game changer) amounts to mortgaging the generations that follow. Sure, US aid can be replaced by Chinese but that too has to be repaid.
Not to mention the one sided agreements - that is for the nation to access.

These changes have come gradually and have become the new normal, when a nation accepts this consider the rust to have set in from within.

Dont go by what you read / watch in the media. Often the truth lies in between lines.

Compare the current Pakistan with what it was during Zia's times & the early days of Mush. The difference will be apparent.
 
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Missed the trees for the woods.

Not all wars are the shooting kind. Shooting wars are the very last ( and most unsuitable) resort and must not be attempted without a clearly defined end state Eg : 1971.

Pakistan has been in a state of war for years & its effects are visible. Observe :

-Never before was the PA engaged permanently & inextricably on both the East & Western borders.
-The PA, PAF & PN spends a substantial % of resources in protecting itself from the people it is supposed to defend even in Pindi, Karachi & Shamsi to name a few.
- A permanent state of unhinged & unpredictable anxiety exists within the nation, not even school children are safe in their schools.
- Acts of terrorism & unrest are not confined to specific areas .
- Terror has strong religious backing, support, a mind of its own & justification and organs of the state (PA) are with the religious fundamentals, the writ of the Govt is contested. People do not question the religious groups.
- Political instability persists.
- Internationally & diplomatically things are far from hunky dory

A fallout is lack of economic activity. Whatever little exists ( since CPEC is considered a game changer) amounts to mortgaging the generations that follow. Sure, US aid can be replaced by Chinese but that too has to be repaid.
Not to mention the one sided agreements - that is for the nation to access.

These changes have come gradually and have become the new normal, when a nation accepts this consider the rust to have set in from within.

Dont go by what you read / watch in the media. Often the truth lies in between lines.

Compare the current Pakistan with what it was during Zia's times & the early days of Mush. The difference will be apparent.
Thanks for being the doomsday prophet. To me your description is more apt for the pre Zarb e Azb period.
 
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After this recent incident in which Pakistan Army has killed 4 Indians soldiers at the LoC, I closely started following the stories from the Indian media in hope to find some reasonable voice.
No marks for guessing that I failed in that to a great extent. There is blood in their eyes and almost all of them are acting like ( for the lack of a better word ) a rabid dog who has bloody eyes and is ready to pounce on you. You'd say this is their usual response and it doesn't matter as far Pakistan is concerened. And you'd be right in saying that. However, a slight difference this time is that they are really searching for answers and are begging their political and military establishment to chalk out a road map or formula to get rid of this issue ( of loosing soldiers regularly ) once and for all. Also, I sense a little bit of realization of the fact that war with Pakistan is not a card they can play. Offcourse their military establishment is well aware of this fact since long but their media which is usually blood thirsty is also raising this point albeit unwillingly. There seems to be a feeling there that despite the bluster of the super power tag, military might and 'punishing Pakistan', in the grand scheme of things, it is Pakistan who is being real cheeky, is bleeding them through a thousand cuts and doesn't mind the status quo at LoC.

Is this precisely what Pakistan aims to achieve because we are doing just that and doing it in a way which is making them feel the heat.

Beneficial is Pakistan and India....

Only j&k people are loser ( including gilgit-balichstan and so called Azaad Kashmir)
 
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You asked a valid question but has written a "butthurt" paragraph against India.
Really not interested.
 
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Feb and March to go .... Isn't April the planned attack month according to RSS goons?
 
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there is another fact that Indian official don't want to accept publicly and that is Pakistan is getting even stronger than India as the time goes and the fact that Pakistan does not have money and stretch economically is a myth of last 20 years. There is yet another fact that India might be a bigger market and hence listened to by other countries no country can disappoint Pakistan either for her 220 million population and extremely fast growing middle class.


Absolute nonsense

You have just devalued your currency

Your reserves are half the size of Bangladesh ( embressing )

you people just make garbage up.

YOUR COMPLETELY at the mercy of china
 
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Absolute nonsense

You have just devalued your currency

Your reserves are half the size of Bangladesh ( embressing )

you people just make garbage up.

YOUR COMPLETELY at the mercy of china

no one will go check our reserves, or the value of our currency when they read that a super power is scared shitless of us.
 
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