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I am creating this to thread to gain knowledge about those part of history which are usually not taught at school level in detail,and to discuss another side of rulers/Kings who are not given enough significance in Indian history since quantum of achievement is low, even though against much hostile odds than some empire builders.
Members should steer clear of famous Kings like Ashoka and Akbar as everyone knows about them.
I would start by two examples:
1. All non mauryan dynasties of Magadha, especially Ajatashatru.
In my opinion, Ajatashatru , if ever mentioned in history, is mentioned in very negative tenor since he killed his father to ascend throne , killed civilians , and ruthlessly conquered Kosala and Vashali.
His ruthlessness, for which he is berated in mainstream historical discourse, in my opinion is his redeeming quality. He ensured that Magadha , at the time of his death, would be strongest Kingdom in India with only mahajanpada of Avanti being able to offer some resistance. He was a no holds barred commander who took war & conquest seriously , rather than treating it as a quasi sport unlike some of later Kings; and used innovative techniques like siege engines to win.He was someone who stick it to his enemies, a quality sorely missing from a lot of Indian Kings.
The area under his tutelage may have been limited, but he along with his father were chief architect of Magadha Empire which would go on to become a Pan-Indian Empire.
Chandragupta , when he ascended the throne, got a well knit Empire in which Avanti ,which was longstanding competitor, was assimilated by Shishunaga ( who also brought all 16 Mahajanpadas under Magadh Empire ), and Nandas ( could be regarded as first empire builders ) who expanded their kingdom into deccan, and raised a large standing army.
Mauryans on the other hand had it relatively easy. Since tribes of Punjab were already subdued by Alexander, Chandragupta has to just walk into Punjab/Sindh region with his Army ( courtesy Nandas ) and conquer some small kingdoms in South to establish a pan Indian empire.
2. Raja Sukhdeo ( I learned about him on PDF)
Like Battle of Rajasthan ensured that India would not become a Muslim country ( By giving breathing space of 300 years , until Ghaznavid invasion, to India ), Battle of Bahraich fought by Raja Sukhdeo against Mohd. salar masood , nephew of Ghaznavi who invaded India after death of his uncle, ensured that Border of Pakistan passes through middle of Punjab rather than Madhya Pradesh ( He provided India with breathing space of 150 years, till Ghurid Invasions).
Salar massod, who followed his uncle's footstep, invaded India in 1031 AD . In response to this threat Raja Sukhdeo raised a confederate Army and two Armies clashed near Chittaura Jheel, Bahraich. In this battle, whole of Ghaznavid army was slaughtered, thus ending invasion.
Raja Sukhdeo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ghazi Saiyyad Salar Masud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Members should steer clear of famous Kings like Ashoka and Akbar as everyone knows about them.
I would start by two examples:
1. All non mauryan dynasties of Magadha, especially Ajatashatru.
In my opinion, Ajatashatru , if ever mentioned in history, is mentioned in very negative tenor since he killed his father to ascend throne , killed civilians , and ruthlessly conquered Kosala and Vashali.
His ruthlessness, for which he is berated in mainstream historical discourse, in my opinion is his redeeming quality. He ensured that Magadha , at the time of his death, would be strongest Kingdom in India with only mahajanpada of Avanti being able to offer some resistance. He was a no holds barred commander who took war & conquest seriously , rather than treating it as a quasi sport unlike some of later Kings; and used innovative techniques like siege engines to win.He was someone who stick it to his enemies, a quality sorely missing from a lot of Indian Kings.
The area under his tutelage may have been limited, but he along with his father were chief architect of Magadha Empire which would go on to become a Pan-Indian Empire.
Chandragupta , when he ascended the throne, got a well knit Empire in which Avanti ,which was longstanding competitor, was assimilated by Shishunaga ( who also brought all 16 Mahajanpadas under Magadh Empire ), and Nandas ( could be regarded as first empire builders ) who expanded their kingdom into deccan, and raised a large standing army.
Mauryans on the other hand had it relatively easy. Since tribes of Punjab were already subdued by Alexander, Chandragupta has to just walk into Punjab/Sindh region with his Army ( courtesy Nandas ) and conquer some small kingdoms in South to establish a pan Indian empire.
2. Raja Sukhdeo ( I learned about him on PDF)
Like Battle of Rajasthan ensured that India would not become a Muslim country ( By giving breathing space of 300 years , until Ghaznavid invasion, to India ), Battle of Bahraich fought by Raja Sukhdeo against Mohd. salar masood , nephew of Ghaznavi who invaded India after death of his uncle, ensured that Border of Pakistan passes through middle of Punjab rather than Madhya Pradesh ( He provided India with breathing space of 150 years, till Ghurid Invasions).
Salar massod, who followed his uncle's footstep, invaded India in 1031 AD . In response to this threat Raja Sukhdeo raised a confederate Army and two Armies clashed near Chittaura Jheel, Bahraich. In this battle, whole of Ghaznavid army was slaughtered, thus ending invasion.
Raja Sukhdeo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ghazi Saiyyad Salar Masud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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