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Both have abused the memory of war for political ends but in 1984 they looked to the future, not to the past.


In an international version of the blame game, Beijing and Tokyo have frequently resorted to historical analogies in their argument about which side is responsible for the deterioration of bilateral relations. In a January 22 speech, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe compared China and Japan today to Germany and Britain on the eve of Second World War. Some Chinese newspapers reciprocated by likening Abe to Hitler and contrasting Germany’s recognition of its historical wrongs with Japan’s apparent lack of remorse for its wartime atrocities. And Xi Jinping’s March 28 visit to Germany, part of his first European tour as China’s president, was supposed to include a trip to the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe — a not-so-subtle slap to Tokyo and one that Berlin rightly nixed.

As both sides scour through the historical record to prove each other wrong, they are ignoring their own recent past: For years after normalisation of Sino-Japanese relations in 1972, the two countries worked closely together. Japan played an essential role in China’s modernisation, supplying government assistance for the development of ports, railways, electric power, water supplies and telecommunications. Japan’s aid to China in the 1980s — $649 million (Dh2.38 billion) on average annually between 1982 and 1989 — dwarfed that of the rest of the G7 combined. And for its part, Beijing was less concerned with Japan’s past wrongdoings than with forging closer economic and political ties.

One interesting feature of the Sino-Japanese relationship in the 1980s was the intensity and the intimacy of the political dialogue, reflected in the frequency of summits, which happened roughly annually from the late 1970s. (There hasn’t been a Sino-Japanese summit since 2008). One such summit took place exactly 30 years ago, when Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone visited Beijing for talks with Chinese policymakers, including paramount leader Deng Xiaoping. Records of this trip — published for the first time in the Digital Archive of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars’ Cold War International History Project — make for striking reading, so different are they from the sea of bitterness that engulfs the Sino-Japanese relationship today.

After coming to power in the late 1970s, Deng promised the Japanese that he would “let bygones be bygones.” His commitment to developing close relations with Tokyo ushered in the golden age of Sino-Japanese cooperation. When Deng and Nakasone met in March 1984, they stayed clear of memories of war. And they did not mention any of the poisons of Sino-Japanese relations — Japanese textbooks that the Chinese believed whitewashed memories of the war, or ownership of the disputed Senkakus in the East China Sea, islands administered by Japan but claimed by China, which calls them the Diaoyu.


Instead, Deng and Nakasone turned their attention to the big picture. Japan and China, Deng said, needed to look “further, longer, and wider” in developing relations into the 21st century. This was “more important than all other issues.” Nakasone told his Chinese counterparts that better relations between Japan and China would both “stabilise the Asia-Pacific region” and become “a powerful pillar for world peace.” The two neighbours, Nakasone argued, “have many reasons to cooperate and no reasons to clash.”

The summit provided an occasion for discussions on regional issues, none more important than stability on the Korean Peninsula. Then, as now, Pyongyang held its neighbours in suspense by engaging in provocations like assassinating three senior South Korean politicians and 18 others in Burma. The Chinese, while claiming limited influence with the North Korean regime, recognised their “obligation” to encourage a dialogue between Pyongyang and other players, including the Japanese.

This dialogue did not lead to any immediate results, but it helped improve the general climate in Northeast Asia, making possible such later developments as China’s 1992 rapprochement with South Korea. And its existence was a sign of mutual trust between the two sides. “We believe it is better to engage in dialogue than not to engage in dialogue,” then Chinese Foreign Minister Wu Xueqian told his Japanese counterpart, Shintaro Abe, who accompanied Nakasone to Beijing. Shintaro Abe, the father of current Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, also spoke about “good faith,” keeping lines of communication open, and “negotiated solutions” to bilateral and regional problems. These were all obvious points, yet the diplomatic bluster evinced by today’s Abe suggests that common sense is not necessarily a hereditary trait.

Nor is the talent for subtle analysis passed from generation to generation. Earlier Chinese leaders objected to Nakasone’s repeated visits to the Yasukuni Shrine, which honours millions of Japanese war dead, including 14 Class A war criminals, but they did not conclude from these visits that Nakasone was a fascist and certainly did not bar him from coming to China, as Beijing did to Abe after his December 2013 appearance at the shrine. Then Premier Zhao Ziyang was careful to distinguish between such “militarist actions” and the general direction of Japan’s foreign policy, a distinction lost on the current generation of Chinese policymakers.

But the Sino-Japanese quarrel has always been as much about domestic politics as about international grievances. In the 1980s, the Chinese Communist Party’s domestic legitimacy was in even greater question than it is today: Runaway inflation, worsening corruption, and skyrocketing crime put the Chinese reformers under a lot of pressure. Yet Deng did not intentionally spoil relations with neighbours to distract from domestic difficulties. Likewise, Nakasone, who presided over a relatively weak faction within the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, had to play a constant balancing game between party stalwarts to keep his premiership afloat. Yet he also conducted a skillful foreign policy, befriending US President Ronald Reagan and British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and pushing for breakthroughs with South Korea, China, and — inconceivably at the time — the Soviet Union.

It is the people who were different, though, not the times. Deng and Nakasone had witnessed firsthand how moral posturing, warmongering and ultimatums can lead nations to ruin. This shared knowledge allowed the two leaders to distinguish statesmanship from politics and see the big picture, an ability that Abe and Xi have conspicuously failed to demonstrate.

In late February, the National People’s Congress, China’s rubber-stamp parliament, proclaimed the establishment of a national day of remembrance for the Nanjing Massacre, which saw Japanese troops slaughter hundreds of thousands of Chinese in late 1937 and early 1938. While remembrance is generally a good thing, this move is more about politics, and amid renewed Sino-Japanese tensions it will only lead to further acrimony. Both sides have abused the memory of the war for political ends and are purposefully forgetting that China and Japan have not always been enemies.

But in 1984, when China and Japan were much closer to each other than today, they looked to the future, not to the past. Rescuing this forgotten age from the clutches of historical amnesia is a step towards ensuring that China’s and Japan’s reciprocal demonisation does not become a self-fulfilling prophesy.




–Washington Post

 
Honestly, I wish that both Japan and China could cooperate as true partners. Remove the politics and geopolicy aside, both our civilizations are culturally very similar.

And i extend the same comparative to Korea, too.
 
Epic thread title. :woot:

Anyway, our main strategic rival is now the USA, and our official policy is "China's peaceful rise".

Overall, our number one goal is economic development.

So unless someone attacks us first, a war is extremely unlikely. We are the ones gaining the most from the status quo by far.
 
Nihonjin1051, post: 5780630, member: 157425"]Honestly, I wish that both Japan and China could cooperate as true partners. Remove the politics and geopolicy aside, both our civilizations are culturally very similar.

And i extend the same comparative to Korea, too.[/quote



The barbarity of Japanese incursions onto the Asian mainland is heinous enough to make a monk swear revenge.literally, as during the Imjin war Korean monks played a major role in guerrilla action.

Can everyday Chinese and Koreans forgive what was done?

Like I said before, we are only human.
 
Japan and China shouldn't be friends. China is a snake - can't be trusted.
 
Japan and China shouldn't be friends. China is a snake - can't be trusted.

lol, why not?
USA-Russia dont like this :pop:

lol. that's funny you said that.

When Japan and PRC signed the Joint Communique in 1972, and then signed the Treaty of Peace and Friendship in 1978, the Soviet Union protested both events.
 
From threatening all of its neighbors, to being a friend with its neighbors....

Hmmm
 
lol. that's funny you said that.

When Japan and PRC signed the Joint Communique in 1972, and then signed the Treaty of Peace and Friendship in 1978, the Soviet Union protested both events.
Yeah, bcz big boss Russia-US dont like this, so, the friendship between China-JP never happen .

Sorry for telling the truth.
 
I wonder why can't progressive states like China and Japan keep their traditional enmity aside and make a new start from somewhere. What has been done in the past can't be undone but at the same time it's ridiculous to keep grudges and lose economic opportunities.

As Beijing and Tokyo were cooperative and synergistic in the early 80's, to even the 90's, I wish that kind of relationship exists.

Let bygones be bygones.
 
I wonder why can't progressive states like China and Japan keep their traditional enmity aside and make a new start from somewhere. What has been done in the past can't be undone but at the same time it's ridiculous to keep grudges and lose economic opportunities.

The historical baggage is too heavy and weighs us down.

Had Japan annihilated the entire KMT army and left the civilians alone, I believe there can be peace.
Unfortunately the brutal killing of millions of civilians echoes in the psyche of Chinese and Koreans for centuries to come.

This enmity is squarely the fault of Japan. The mass killings, chemical and biological experiments, live mass burials and bayonet competitions cannot be undone.

Issues of sovereignty over a few small islands is worth squat and can easily be solved. Unfortunately the historical baggage is permanent.
 
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