What Pisses Me Off About The European Migrant Crisis

[C130]

good watch.

 

[gangsta_rap]

the more you bitch about it the more of us will start popping.

 

[C130]

the more you bitch about it the more of us will start popping.

I can only hope the Arab world would return the favor if Europeans ever need to migrate in mass in a short period of time . millions of Christians and Atheists would do well for your community. diversify is good

 

[Daneshmand]

good watch.

It is too late to complain.

US, EU and NATO destroyed country after country. They laid waste to Africa. Finally they killed the only employer on African continent who used to give jobs to migrant workers in Africa. His name was Qadaffi.

When you destroy other people's homes, and kill their employer then people start to migrate. Even morons understand this.

And what's up with you guys, in Europe and America? You are all the time talking about human rights, freedom, democracy, equality, women rights etc etc. You even go to war and lay waste to countries for these principles.

And now you are complaining about a few million refugees who want to settle down in Europe and marry your women? Just because their skin color is dark and their religion is different?

So where is your lofty claims to human rights and equality and freedom and such, now? Or these are just excuses to kill millions of Muslims?

What is it?

 

[Penguin]

It is too late to complain.

US, EU and NATO destroyed country after country. They laid waste to Africa. Finally they killed the only employer on African continent who used to give jobs to migrant workers in Africa. His name was Qadaffi.

When you destroy other people's homes, and kill their employer then people start to migrate. Even morons understand this.

And what's up with you guys, in Europe and America? You are all the time talking about human rights, freedom, democracy, equality, women rights etc etc. You even go to war and lay waste to countries for these principles.

And now you are complaining about a few million refugees who want to settle down in Europe and marry your women? Just because their skin color is dark and their religion is different?

So where is your lofty claims to human rights and equality and freedom and such, now? Or these are just excuses to kill millions of Muslims?

What is it?

Yes, its all the fault of US, Nato and EU.
NOTHING to do with aanything or anybody else.
Wash your hands clean.
What did YOU do TODAY to help persons displaced by conflict?
What is YOUR country doing TODAY?
How are YOU letting YOUR GOVERNMENT know what you want them to do?

In short: above bla bla bla bla is by people full of themsselves, talking from the comfort of their safe homes.

 

[Daneshmand]

Yes, its all the fault of US, Nato and EU.
NOTHING to do with aanything or anybody else.
Wash your hands clean.
What did YOU do TODAY to help persons displaced by conflict?
What is YOUR country doing TODAY?
How are YOU letting YOUR GOVERNMENT know what you want them to do?

In short: above bla bla bla bla is by people full of themsselves, talking from the comfort of their safe homes.

Of course, there is no doubt about that. It is the fault of US and EU.

It was EU and US who destabilized Somalia and handed it over to war lords. The reason? The Somali government was communist.

It was EU and US who destabilized Afghanistan. The reason? The Afghan government was communist.

It was EU and US who destabilized Sudan by supporting armed secessionist moments there and putting Sudan under sanctions. The reason? In order to secede oil rich territories from Sudan.

It is French and American forces roaming around in Africa mowing down villages, destroying lives and killing economies, in order to "combat" Wahabi extremist groups. And who is supporting the Wahabis? The BFF of EU and US, the Saudi regime. A regime that would not even exist for 3 weeks if it was not for the support of EU and US. An artificial state created out of Hijaz by British. A regime put in place by the British in Hijaz, in order to serve the interests of British at the expense of Muslims.

It was US that invaded Iraq and brought in al-Qaida into Iraq. There was no al-qaida in Iraq. The mayhem caused by the state failure and dissolution of Iraqi army continues to day.

It was EU and US who bombed and destroyed Libya. A country that had made peace with Europe and America. A country that gave up its nuclear program entirely and paid hefty punishment fines for its past "mistakes". A country that offered its services to Europe to stop migrants and instead offer good paying jobs to the migrants in Libya. What did you guys do? You destroyed Libya in order to provide air support for alqaida.

It was EU and US who have been supporting "rebels" in Syria against a staunch secular government. One of the few secular governments in Muslim world. The ranks of Isis and Nusra and the rest of these animalistic groups are filled by French and British citizens who are being supported by Saudis, your BFF, in order to establish a Wahabi state there instead of current secular state.

This list can go on and on and on.

It was not Muslims that claimed to have lofty ideals and goals in human rights, women rights, freedom of expression, freedom of sexual choices, democracy, international law, refugee rights, global village, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

It is always Europe and US that claim such lofty ideals for themselves, bragging to the world and even going to wars and laying waste to nations, killing millions of people and dropping millions of tons of bombs on huge swaths of faraway land in order to prove how civilized and how humane they are.

One of the cornerstones of such humane behavior is to accept the cost of having such lofty ideals and let millions of refugees settle down in Europe and get European citizenship.

This is the responsibility of Europe. Not someone else's. Not Iran's. Not China's. Not Russia's. Not Martians. ONLY EUROPE.

If you do not like that, then do not go on and destroy the homes of other people in the name of capitalism, democracy and women rights. So that millions of people do not need to leave their home and move to Europe.

 

[flamer84]

It was EU and US who destabilized Somalia and handed it over to war lords. The reason? The Somali government was communist.

So were all Eastern European goverments but you didn't saw us killing each other for 25 years since the fall of communism.Always blaming others for your backwardness.Heck,after a bitter war even ex Yugoslavia chilled and they're functional countries right now.

It was EU and US who destabilized Afghanistan. The reason? The Afghan government was communist.

Hogwash and stupidity,the EU didn't even exist in the 70's! B;ame the EU for the mongol invasions to,will you ?

It was EU and US who destabilized Sudan by supporting armed secessionist moments there and putting Sudan under sanctions. The reason? In order to secede oil rich territories from Sudan.

South Sudanese Christians had a right to decide their future and nobody can blame the civilised world for protecting innocents against crazy tinpots bent on massacring people who want a different future for themselves.

It is French and American forces roaming around in Africa mowing down villages, destroying lives and killing economies, in order to "combat" Wahabi extremist groups. And who is supporting the Wahabis? The BFF of EU and US, the Saudi regime. A regime that would not even exist for 3 weeks if it was not for the support of EU and US. An artificial state created out of Hijaz by British. A regime put in place by the British in Hijaz, in order to serve the interests of British at the expense of Muslims.

Maybe you need to see all those videos of Malians welcoming the French as liberators,they speak more about the situation than your internet rants.Cased closed on this one to.

It was US that invaded Iraq and brought in al-Qaida into Iraq. There was no al-qaida in Iraq. The mayhem caused by the state failure and dissolution of Iraqi army continues to day.

Yeah except for the fact that Iraq was ruled by a nutjob who gassed his own people and whose son instituted "prima nocte" across the country.But hey,he ran a tight shift when his soldiers were butchering entire villages !

It was EU and US who bombed and destroyed Libya. A country that had made peace with Europe and America. A country that gave up its nuclear program entirely and paid hefty punishment fines for its past "mistakes". A country that offered its services to Europe to stop migrants and instead offer good paying jobs to the migrants in Libya. What did you guys do? You destroyed Libya in order to provide air support for alqaida.

A country that was blackmailing Europe to be paid for not flooding us with immigrants! A country ran by another nutjob *(you seem to like every warlord out there,raping,killing his own people,what's wrong with you ?) who decided to cut down every civilian protesting in the street for freedom.

It was EU and US who have been supporting "rebels" in Syria against a staunch secular government. One of the few secular governments in Muslim world. The ranks of Isis and Nusra and the rest of these animalistic groups are filled by French and British citizens who are being supported by Saudis, your BFF, in order to establish a Wahabi state there instead of current secular state.

See my other posts above your strange love for tyrants sending tanks to cut down "unhappy" citizens.

It was not Muslims that claimed to have lofty ideals and goals in human rights, women rights, freedom of expression, freedom of sexual choices, democracy, international law, refugee rights, global village, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

No,but they sure like to flock in droves,hat in hand, to countries that have such ideals.

One of the cornerstones of such humane behavior is to accept the cost of having such lofty ideals and let millions of refugees settle down in Europe and get European citizenship.

They will be accepted as Europeans when they'll act as ones.And they don't,there's no need for the EU to transform in the shitholes these people came from.Humanity can only loose from such an event as a whole.

 

[VCheng]

This is the responsibility of Europe. Not someone else's. Not Iran's. Not China's. Not Russia's. Not Martians. ONLY EUROPE.

Do you think that the EU will work out an effective solution and what do you prefer to see the solution as in terms of settling those who make to the EU?

 

[Spectre]

Do you think that the EU will work out an effective solution and what do you prefer to see the solution as in terms of settling those who make to the EU?

Depends on public opinion - they will certainly offer a solution; positive and overwhelming public opinion would force the governments to offer a comprehensive solution and package rather than a superficial one for appearances sake.

Like all things it is propaganda and perception war between right and left in EU, whoever manages to get their point across to public manages to put their stamp on a "solution"

 

[VCheng]

Depends on public opinion - they will certainly offer a solution; positive and overwhelming public opinion would force the governments to offer a comprehensive solution and package rather than a superficial one for appearances sake.

Like all things it is propaganda and perception war between right and left in EU, whoever manages to get their point across to public manages to put their stamp on a "solution"

May be USA needs to "encourage" the EU to move faster or "propose" a solution, like it did for the Yugoslavian crisis?

 

[Spectre]

May be USA needs to "encourage" the EU to move faster or "propose" a solution, like it did for the Yugoslavian crisis?

Depends on how much money US shells out as a way of encouragement. Loads of scope for back-room deals and quid-pro-quos.

This is turning into a major embarrassment for EU.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

good watch.

It's a lot easier now than it used to be. There was a solid country named Libya. Another named Syria. Then oil rich messiahs thought why not sponsor an Arab Spring to our political enemies?

I can only hope the Arab world would return the favor if Europeans ever need to migrate in mass in a short period of time . millions of Christians and Atheists would do well for your community. diversify is good

Assad would have welcomed anyone in, perhaps unless they were Jewish.

Yes, its all the fault of US, Nato and EU.
NOTHING to do with aanything or anybody else.
Wash your hands clean.
What did YOU do TODAY to help persons displaced by conflict?
What is YOUR country doing TODAY?
How are YOU letting YOUR GOVERNMENT know what you want them to do?

In short: above bla bla bla bla is by people full of themsselves, talking from the comfort of their safe homes.

The fault is nothing but a cycle. Monarchies lead by old men suppressing freedoms who are being supported by the west in return for buying weapons and selling cheap oil. When was the last time Holland criticized these nations? Whats the point of being free when you can't even hold a protest outside the Saudi/Kuwaiti/UAE/Bahraini Embassy?

Oh I forgot, selling FIFA World Cup hosting rights also.

South Sudanese Christians had a right to decide their future and nobody can blame the civilised world for protecting innocents against crazy tinpots bent on massacring people who want a different future for themselves.

And you believe S. Sudan is filled with Unicorns and Rainbows, where children are showered with candy?

 

[vostok]

Do you think that the EU will work out an effective solution and what do you prefer to see the solution as in terms of settling those who make to the EU?

Libya completely, Iraq and Syria partly (the areas not controlled by the official Baghdad and Damascus) should be divided into zones of influence (protectorates) between France, England, Germany (Russia, China, the United States - at the request or need). According to a UN mandate. Expenses for conduct of combat operations must be distributed between the EU and the United States (as the US are also to blame for fall of the secular states of the region).
Once victory is achieved in the fight against the Islamists, civil occupation administration are created in the mandated territory. Loans on preferential terms (like the Marshall Plan), reconstruction of infrastructure, education, medicine, manufacturing, and so on. The program is a long-term, at least for 15-20 years.
After completion of the program - the first official elections in mandated territories.
Europeans at the time have created the states from zero in the region after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. It is necessary to repeat the experience.
In the most general terms.

 

[VCheng]

Libya completely, Iraq and Syria partly (the areas not controlled by the official Baghdad and Damascus) should be divided into zones of influence (protectorates) between France, England, Germany (Russia, China, the United States - at the request or need). According to a UN mandate. Expenses for conduct of combat operations must be distributed between the EU and the United States (as the US are also to blame for fall of the secular states of the region).
Once victory is achieved in the fight against the Islamists, civil occupation administration are created in the mandated territory. Loans on preferential terms (like the Marshall Plan), reconstruction of infrastructure, education, medicine, manufacturing, and so on. The program is a long-term, at least for 15-20 years.
After completion of the program - the first official elections in mandated territories.
Europeans at the time have created the states from zero in the region after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. It is necessary to repeat the experience.
In the most general terms.

That would be highly unlikely to be implemented. Saying "it's your fault, you fix it!" will not work here, because the response is going to be "it is your country, it is primarily your own responsibility".

 

[Spectre]

Libya completely, Iraq and Syria partly (the areas not controlled by the official Baghdad and Damascus) should be divided into zones of influence (protectorates) between France, England, Germany (Russia, China, the United States - at the request or need). According to a UN mandate. Expenses for conduct of combat operations must be distributed between the EU and the United States (as the US are also to blame for fall of the secular states of the region).
Once victory is achieved in the fight against the Islamists, civil occupation administration are created in the mandated territory. Loans on preferential terms (like the Marshall Plan), reconstruction of infrastructure, education, medicine, manufacturing, and so on. The program is a long-term, at least for 15-20 years.
After completion of the program - the first official elections in mandated territories.
Europeans at the time have created the states from zero in the region after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. It is necessary to repeat the experience.
In the most general terms.

Do you think US and EU could afford the costs associated with re-construction and rehabilitation or they would leave things half-way like they did in Iraq and Afganishtan?