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What is Iran's response on the recent events in Kashmir?

Iran is working together with India and is fully involved in terrorism in Pakistan.
Iran should be treated as a hostile enemy country.

People here talk about neutrality and other nonsense. Here is what Iran has been doing in Pakistan since Pakistan played neutrality BS and didn't side with Saudis over Yemen.

Iran is involved in Ormara terrorist attacks, Gwadar terrorist attacks, Zainabioun terrorists fighting in Syria, Uzair Baloch/Baba Ladla doing terrorism in Karachi, Kulbhoshan Yadav doing terrorism inside Balochistan from Chabahar, sectarian murders and many many more terrorist attacks/ activities inside Pakistan fully supported by our (terrorist) neighbor Iran.

Whereas Saudis have always always helped Pakistan for the last 70 years especially funding our nuclear program. They gave us oil for free when US put sanctions against us after nuclear tests. Giving oil on deferred payments recently otherwise IMF condition would have been even more stricter.

More than a million Pakistanis live in Saudi Arabia sending us remittances which our economy depends on.

We should treat Iran for what it is. A hostile enemy that must be removed at all costs.
 
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Undifferentiable from most Pakistani or North Indian features.

The region is a genetic mish-mash, thanks to the Islamic invasions of the past 1000 years.

Cheers, Doc

The features would be mostly like punjabi or pashtun---and you normally don't see that in Tehran---.
 
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What was Pakistan's response when US was threatening Iran? You reap what you sow.
I think you need to read. Pakistan PM responded against any move against Iran. commended the Iranian people for their courage and told the world the Iranians will fight to defend their land.
 
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The features would be mostly like punjabi or pashtun---and you normally don't see that in Tehran---.

That is expected.

Each of these regions, Iran and Pakistan/North India, have mixed race and ethnicity morphology superimposed on a base foundation racial populace, which are distinct for both and internally homogeneous over many thousands of years.

Compared to that near-homogeneous time-span, a thousand years of mixing is pretty recent.

Hence what we call Iranian features, Pakistani features, and Indian features.

Defining the recent admixture on old base genetics by modern geo-political definitions.

Cheers, Doc
 
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In Iranian media we hear they hardly condemn India but they don't give any point to Pakistan either and they say Kashmir should be an independent Islamic country.

In Iranian media we usually support Pakistan however don't badmouth India that much.
 
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Undifferentiable from most Pakistani or North Indian features.

The region is a genetic mish-mash, thanks to the Islamic invasions of the past 1000 years.

Cheers, Doc

@waz, @Oscar @The Eagle, @Horus bro, talking about those low life Ganggus not to be allowed to spread their shyt on PDF, why the top hater from Gangadesh is still allowed on PDF?

Doesnt it kind of kill the spirit ? This person despises Pakistan in general and Muslims in particular and always here to spread fake distorted history to humiliate us here.

Can we let that go on here?

@MastanKhan You are wasting your time with this low life Gangu bro, he is not here to debate but just to spread his utter hatred against Pakistan and Muslims. Go through his posts history to get an idea. If any one from Gangadesh deserves a permanent ban, then that would be this person!
 
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@waz, @Oscar @The Eagle, @Horus bro, talking about those low life Ganggus not to be allowed to spread their shyt on PDF, why the top hater from Gangadesh is still allowed on PDF?

Doesnt it kind of kill the spirit ? This person despises Pakistan in general and Muslims in particular and always here to spread fake distorted history to humiliate us here.

Can we let that go on here?

@MastanKhan You are wasting your time with this low life Gangu bro, he is not here to debate but just to spread his utter hatred against Pakistan and Muslims. Go through his posts history to get an idea. If any one from Gangadesh deserves a permanent ban, then that would be this person!
he is a racist arrogant delusional piece of shit i was checking indian def forum and this low life chotia support mass genocide i iont understand this cute policy of Pakistan tolerance is good but why the hell allow bastards mfer sons of whore like this doc on pdf!!

Muslim rulers must have done really bad things to his ancestors maybe his grand parents were made to work in hoese farm and their only job was to clean horse shit from farm!!!

this chotia hindu shouldnt be allowed on this forum;
 
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how is that even possible when -- according to a relative of mine and many books I've read -- only people of kargil are considered Muslims by Iran clergy. an independent Islamic country ruled by kargil?
Actually there are many protest campaigns in Iran in favour of kashmiri people and we don't care if they're shia or sunni.
 
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I am loyal to Islam and then Pakistan. I dont care what you guys think about me.


I didnt vouched for anyone. Just stating the realities. Iran and Saudis both stand for sectarianism and their self oriented goals.


Amateurish behaviour of kids.


But, I love all Muslims.


I am not doubting your patriotism.


I am not a Persian, nor do I associate myself with any ethnicity.
Love them or hate them no Muslim will every love you as much as a Pakistani Muslim will. Put your country before any other.

I am loyal to Islam and then Pakistan. I dont care what you guys think about me.


I didnt vouched for anyone. Just stating the realities. Iran and Saudis both stand for sectarianism and their self oriented goals.


Amateurish behaviour of kids.


But, I love all Muslims.


I am not doubting your patriotism.


I am not a Persian, nor do I associate myself with any ethnicity.
Yes both of them are responsible for terrorism in Pakistan. They will both pay heavily
 
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Hi,

You are physiologically incorrect---we are not muslims first---.

I have written this many times---and I will write again---.

When a child is born---he / she has no religion---. He gets the religion of the household he is born in and there is a TIME GAP during that process---.

But in that time gap---his ethnicity---his tribe---his language and nationalism is already determined by default---. Religion is the last thing that is determined for the child---.

So---in our culture---first is my ethnic group---ie my tribe---then my provincial group---what province I am born in---then the country I am born in---. So---I will also have a re-determined language that will be my mother tongue---and look---after so many things have happened instantaneously---the religion part has not even entered yet---.

We make them muslims by giving azan in each ear after birth---others may have their own religious rituals for their religions.

Allah gave us our identities for a reason---otherwise our Lord would have done away with identities because he is The Lord of the universe---.

Respected Sir ,
I normally agree with you most of the time when I read your posts on various threads. Unfortunately I dont believe your are correct here.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“So set you (O Muhammad) your face towards the religion (of pure Islamic Monotheism) Haneef (worship none but Allaah Alone). Allaah’s Fitrah (i.e. Allaah’s Islamic Monotheism) with which He has created mankind. No change let there be in Khalq‑illaah (i.e. the religion of Allaah Islamic Monotheism), that is the straight religion, but most of men know not” [al-Room 30:30]

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Every child is born in a state of fitrah (the natural state of man, i.e., Islam), then his parents make him into a Jew or a Christian or a Magian.” (Agreed upon).

The correct view is that what is meant by fitrah is the religion of Islam, as stated in the hadeeth narrated by Muslim from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), who said: “Allaah said: ‘I created My slaves as haneefs (believers in pure monotheism), then the Shaytaan misled them from their religion; he forbade them what I had permitted to them and commanded them to associate others with Me for which I had not sent down any authority.’” What it means when it is said that a child is born as a Muslim is that he is born inherently ready, when he reaches the age of discretion, if he is given the choice between Islam and its opposite, to prefer Islam over its opposite and to choose Islam as his religion, so long as there is nothing to prevent him from doing so, such as his whims and desires or tribalism. Following his desires makes him prefer falsehood so that he may attain some share of leadership or wealth, and tribalism or racial pride makes him follow his forefathers or elders, even if they are not following true guidance. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Nay! They say: ‘We found our fathers following a certain way and religion, and we guide ourselves by their footsteps’” [al-Zukhruf 43:23]

And Allaah tells us what the followers among the people of Hell will say (interpretation of the meaning):

“And they will say: ‘Our Lord! Verily, we obeyed our chiefs and our great ones, and they misled us from the (Right) Way’” [al-Ahzaab 33:67]

If every child is born in a state of fitrah, then obviously there will be some who will be influenced in ways that are in accordance with that fitrah and will strengthen it, such as those who are born to Muslim parents and grow up in a Muslim society. And there will be some whose fitrah is changed, such as those who are born to kaafir parents and group up among the kuffaar, be they Jews, Christians, Magians or mushrikeen. Undoubtedly the one who is born in Islam has means of guidance and happiness which are not available to others who are born and grow up in kaafir societies. Being given easy access to the means of faith and guidance is a blessing from Allaah which He gives to whomsoever He wills. It should also be noted that the person whose fitrah has been changed from Islam will not be punished for the sins of another; rather he will be punished if the call of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) reaches him and he does not accept it out of stubbornness, arrogance or tribalistic pride in the religion of his forefathers and countrymen, because proof is established against him when the call of the Messenger reaches him, and in such a case, if he persists in his kufr then he deserves to be punished. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)” [al-Israa’ 17:15]
 
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Hi,

You are physiologically incorrect---we are not muslims first---.

I have written this many times---and I will write again---.

When a child is born---he / she has no religion---. He gets the religion of the household he is born in and there is a TIME GAP during that process---.

But in that time gap---his ethnicity---his tribe---his language and nationalism is already determined by default---. Religion is the last thing that is determined for the child---.

So---in our culture---first is my ethnic group---ie my tribe---then my provincial group---what province I am born in---then the country I am born in---. So---I will also have a re-determined language that will be my mother tongue---and look---after so many things have happened instantaneously---the religion part has not even entered yet---.

We make them muslims by giving azan in each ear after birth---others may have their own religious rituals for their religions.

Allah gave us our identities for a reason---otherwise our Lord would have done away with identities because he is The Lord of the universe---.

Don't want to get into a religious discussion in these fraught times, but I really liked your post.

I know as an elder you've gotten pissed at some of my posts in the past (almost always Islam or Pakistan related), but I must tell you that you are one of the very few Pakistani guys (which is most of PDF for the past few years) I actually do a member "search for posts by" for.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Still better than Mirza Masroor urf Soor.

Iran doesn't care about Pakistani Shia either, only use them to fight their wars and trying to create chaos in Pakistan knowing well Pakistanis be it Shias or Sunnis are religious suckers.
 
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