What if the Ottoman Caliphate Reunited Today?

[El Sidd]

RIP

 

[Mr ambassador]

on contrary , this unification of ottoman empire will bring civil wars in Muslim states.


Arabs will never leave their kingdoms and their citizens will force them and consequently it will be civil unrest .

Pakistanis wont agree to remove durand line .

Reunification is possible Pakistan ( a warrior ) and Turkey ( a king )take practical steps.

Pakistan is trapped in debts and suffering from 5th generation colonialism( indirectly ruled by the west) .so its not possible


Turkey is wont take burdens of ignorant arabs. So its not possible in right now .

 

[SALMAN F]

on contrary , this unification of ottoman empire will bring civil wars in Muslim states.


Arabs will never leave their kingdoms and their citizens will force them and consequently it will be civil unrest .

Pakistanis wont agree to remove durand line .

Reunification is possible Pakistan ( a warrior ) and Turkey ( a king )take practical steps.

Pakistan is trapped in debts and suffering from 5th generation colonialism( indirectly ruled by the west) .so its not possible


Turkey is wont take burdens of ignorant arabs. So its not possible in right now .

Pakistan have nothing to do with ottomans they can reunite with Mughals or khalajis,ghoris, ghaznafivds ect

 

[Mamluk]

Pakistanis wont agree to remove durand line .

Reunification is possible Pakistan ( a warrior ) and Turkey ( a king )take practical steps.

Pakistan is trapped in debts and suffering from 5th generation colonialism( indirectly ruled by the west) .so its not possible


Turkey is wont take burdens of ignorant arabs. So its not possible in right now .

Pakistan or Afghanistan has nothing to do with reunification of Ottoman empire.

 

[Mr ambassador]

Pakistan have nothing to do with ottomans they can reunite with Mughals or khalajis,ghoris, ghaznafivds ect

Modern ottoman will need nuclear weapons for its resistance and survival. So Pakistan holds value .

Pakistan or Afghanistan has nothing to do with reunification of Ottoman empire.

Modern ottoman will need nuclear weapons for resistance and survival . So Pakistan holds importance.

if Pakistan joins ottoman empire ,then Afghanistan , central Asian states and Iran will also join and become border less country .

 

[rambro]

What if the muslim world regardless of sect were a little more united?

 

[Imran Khan]

so many people will die

 

[Shah_G]

True Khalifat can only run under Imammat.

 

[Neptune]

In one way another our country will return to its factory settings, either a decade later or 30 years later. Everyone knows this, even the islamists. But I promise you this, it will. Then all the politicians who used people's religious sensitivities to fuel their political goals, they will be trialed and kicked out. To hell with caliphate.

 

[Nein]

Funny how in that picture it has a central asian looking Turk most likely a Turanist or a Pan Turkist. People say Ataturk supported Pan Turkism yeah he did hence why he did not allow Enver Pasha to come back and opposed a Uygur state led by an Ottoman Prince.

Then you have people claiming Ataturk supported Islam. Then you have the communist crowd saying Ataturk supported socialism or communism hence why he allied with Lenin.

What this picture proves Kemal was neither of them. Hence why people in Turkey need to stop claiming Ataturk for their own ideology.

 

[mr.robot]

What if the Muslim world regardless of sect were a little more united?

Even if sect is an issue why can't we compete which country have more Universities in this list

 

[denel]

And work upon to get more of our universities in this list.View attachment 473664

Man, you beat me to it . They cannot even construct a bicycle from scratch and here wanting to re-unit.

 

[bsruzm]

I would like Ottoman Empire to divide itself under control when it was the strongest of all, and open a path to fast development. I'd draw an Istanbul based line of defense, a country a bit larger than modern Turkish Republic for us, the Turks. That'd be very easy to defend and develop. If wanted, we would appoint officials to those newly founded countries in Eastern Europe, Northern Africa and Middle East. It would serve the peace also, and wouldn't harm the unity among nations. It would make all those newly founded countries somehow dependent on Turkey but still independent. Caliphate could survive as well.

Now, it could be a distant dream of a fellow Muslim around the world but ''On 3 March 1924, the caliphate was officially abolished and its powers were transferred to the GNA (Grand National Assembly).''.

So many group, people tried to restore it but all failed, strange a bit, isn't it?

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

It won't return thank to the hero ataturk

according yo one hadith, caliphate will be first thing which will be taken from Muslims and it will be the first thing returned to them too.

 

[Nein]

I wonder if Ataturk kept the Caliphate I wonder how would that turn out. Another what if.

Perhaps we would not have terrorist groups clamouring for a Caliphate but a high chance it wont recognised as the Muslim world is diverse especially you have shias who wont recognise it then you have Saudis and their form of Islam who most likely wont recognise the caliphate.

Even Salafis today call the Ottomans illegitimate because they are Turks and not Quraish blood but also how they did not follow Islam properly. In many ways Ataturk dismantled something that wont recognised by many unfortunately. Then you have takfiri types who make takfir at everything.