What happens if any indian govt agrees to cede Kashmir?

[Shapur]

Kashmir baniga Pakistan is a slogan out of Kashmir.
Giving up all the territory is not an option though. Surveys in Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan show that >90% of the population wants to remain with Pakistan.
Pakistani Pashtun Tribals. Pakistani Kashmir demographics never changed significantly. Unlike India, we still have laws in place for its protection.

There in lies the main problem. It's not your territory or India's. Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris period and they are the only ones who should make that decision.

 

[padamchen]

Kashmir baniga Pakistan is a slogan out of Kashmir.
Giving up all the territory is not an option though. Surveys in Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan show that >90% of the population wants to remain with Pakistan.



Pakistani Pashtun Tribals. Pakistani Kashmir demographics never changed significantly. Unlike India, we still have laws in place for its protection.



It is subject to conditions that outsiders obviously can't change the demographics, that the police force will comprise of only the locals, and that people are taken into consideration fully. Otherwise it is a no brainer. There are three parties to it, Pakistan, India and the local people.



You really don't want to find a solution, do you?

He's insinuating that a ceding on Kashmir would come from the Congress or a non BJP party.

When history tells us that the Indian PM who came closest to jacking us on Kashmir was indeed BJPs Vajpayee.

 

[PakistaniJunior]

If the Kashmiris are allowed a plebiscite and is either ceded to Pakistan or stay securely independent (I won't say cede to India because as you can clearly see, you wouldn't have to impose a curfew in IOK if the locals truly wanted to be Indians), then peace in the subcontinent would prevail.

The start of our bone to pick with you folk started with Kashmir and it ends with Kashmir. We don't want anything else to do with you people or your country as it's of no concern to us what you guys do so long as it doesn't concerns us. You guys, with the boogeyman of Pakistan being gone, could either fight amongst yourself or unite to make your country a economic powerhouse like you wanted. Both countries could mind their own businesses and focus on attaining first world country status. Maybe within a century or two down the line, Pakistanis and Indians could think about being friendly neighbors. The current problem in our relationship is due to Indian greed, cunningness and hatred. Good Indians also exist however the majority of you folk are just plain evil. A hypothetical answer for a Hypothetical question.

 

[PakistaniJunior]

There in lies the main problem. It's not your territory or India's. Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris period and they are the only ones who should make that decision.

There are many Kashmiri members on this forum, @Dual Wielder , @Malik Alpha are to name a few. You can ask for their stance on this.

However there is a problem with Kashmir being independent, and that is the lack of resources and inhospitable weathers of the region. Whatever country a independent Kashmir forms, it'll be weak and won't be able to defend it's borders. You can see where the problem with that lies as plain ugly ol' politics are going to enter the scene again and everything is brought back to ground zero. So realistically speaking, the option should be, "India or Pakistan?"

 

[Shapur]

Kashmiris already ethnically cleansed the kashmiri hindus in 1990 backed by ISI.So its a bit too late for that.Its karma now.

What's done is done. I am sure both sides have their own version of what's happened. If the descedents of the Hindus who were forcibly kicked out are still alive then the Independent Kashmiri government should let them back in and give them back their loat properties.

 

[SIPRA]

There in lies the main problem. It's not your territory or India's. Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris period and they are the only ones who should make that decision.

Right you are

 

[Lincoln]

Kashmiris already ethnically cleansed the kashmiri hindus in 1990 backed by ISI.So its a bit too late for that.Its karma now.

What about the Muslims ethnically cleansed in 1947 by Indian Army and the King?
Bring back the Kashmiri Hindus, even then a clear Majority will be in favor of Independence from India. You speak as if they were in the millions.

 

[Shapur]

There are many Kashmiri members on this forum, @Dual Wielder , @Malik Alpha are to name a few. You can ask for their stance on this.

However there is a problem with Kashmir being independent, and that is the lack of resources and inhospitable weathers of the region. Whatever country a independent Kashmir forms, it'll be weak and won't be able to defend it's borders. You can see where the problem with that lies as plain ugly ol' politics are going to enter the scene again and everything is brought back to ground zero. So realistically speaking, the option should be, "India or Pakistan?"

There are pro Pakistan and even pro India Kashmiris believe it or not. I have met a few Kashmiris and they would rather be independent than become part of Pakistan or India.

Kashmir can survive on tourism alone. It doesn't need any other resources. Kashmir has no enemies if left alone.

 

[ssethii]

You mean the way it was before it got invaded by Pakistani tribals ???

Yeah after self-rule was denied for decades by Hindu Maharaja and wanted to cede it to India against the will of the majority of people.

 

[Kabira]

I don't know what will happen but Pakistan need to do few things right now.

1. Make sure no militant crosses over from this side.
2. Support Kashmiris diplomatically. If they care then indigenous militants will rise up, see attacks in last few days. All local Kashmiris despite claims of India. They even released videos of militants and their names despite BS claims of Indian police. lol https://theprint.in/india/jk-police...d-in-handwara-are-residents-of-valley/414354/

Slowly Pakistan has been successful in making the case to the world that now movement is entirely indigenous.

 

[xeuss]

Kashmiris already ethnically cleansed the kashmiri hindus in 1990 backed by ISI.So its a bit too late for that.Its karma now.

Interesting to note that you are peddling this.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Nothing will happen, the hindu terrorist of RSS will huff and puff , stone throwing and some attacks on Muslims quarters in Indian cities, next day, back to square one of living daily wages/earnings and fight for daily survival. India is too poor to the able to sustain any backlash over losing Kashmir.

 

[BL33D]

Yeah after self-rule was denied for decades by Hindu Maharaja and wanted to cede it to India against the will of the majority of people.

So are you gonna send "tribals" to any country whose citizen demand freedom ? Taiwan, Hongkong, Xinjiang, Syria, Catalonia, Georgia, Moldova, Kurds, Myanmar ????
Also the King had to cede to India because of your actions. And you thought forcefully capturing it was the solution.

 

[itsanufy]

Great idea and India should also cede NE and also Muslim areas of W Bengal to BD. S Tibet can go to China.

In return most of the Indian Muslims can migrate to the enlarged BD and lesser numbers to Pakistan.
BD also annexes Northern Arakan to allow the Rohingya refugees to return in peace and dignity.

Peace and prosperity will reign in subcontinent but Hindus are too boneheaded to see this is in their interests.

Guys why WB and NE will join BD? Never ever I heard of any one including muslims of joining BD. NE people hate you guys which you can't think off.

 

[CrazyZ]

Had Kashmir issue been resolved at partition then my opinion is that the bulk of Indo-Pak hostilities would have never happened.