What happened to the Buddhists?

[jamahir]

It's very true that Buddhism is very similar to Islam, as well as Gnostic Christianity.

The name is not a matter, but the most important is the essence.

Everyone can claim to be a gym member (religious follower), but not all are bodybuilders (spiritualists, defeating ego, and becoming a really good person).

Islam helped and saved billions of people in the Middle East. And Christianity as well in Europe.

The thing that Buddhism can't.

The essence is the most and only important thing, not the name.

Agree with most and you wrote quite well but I differ in two things :

1. Buddhism saved people too but in the past, not only during the time of the Buddha like in the story of Amrapali and Ajaatshatru I mentioned in post# 21, but also Alexander's entry into India led eventually to events of the Indian emperor Ashoka adopting Buddhism and spreading Buddhism all over India and sending preacher ambassadors to other places including his daughter Sanghamitra and her brother Mahinda to Sri Lanka and that leading to a female monastic order there and :

Saṅghamittā (Saṅghamitrā in Sanskrit, nun's name Ayapali;[1] 282 BC – 203 BC[1]) was the eldest daughter of Emperor Ashoka (304 BC – 232 BC) and his first wife, Devi. Together with her brother Mahinda, she entered an order of Buddhist monks. The two siblings later went to Sri Lanka to spread the teachings of Buddha at the request of King Devanampiya Tissa (250 BC – 210 BC) who was a contemporary of Ashoka. Ashoka was initially reluctant to send his daughter on an overseas mission. However, because of the insistence of Sangamitra herself, he finally agreed. She was sent to Sri Lanka together with several other nuns to start the nun-lineage of Bhikkhunis (a fully ordained female Buddhist monastic) at the request of King Tissa to ordain queen Anulā and other women of Tissa's court at Anuradhapura who desired to be ordained as nuns after Mahindra converted them to Buddhism.[2][3][4][5][6]

After Sanghamittā’s contribution to the propagation of Buddhism in Sri Lanka and her establishing the Bikhhunī Sangha or Meheini Sasna (Order of Nuns) there, her name became synonymous with "Buddhist Female Monastic Order of Theravāda Buddhism" that was established not only in Sri Lanka but also in Burma, China and Thailand, in particular. The day the most revered tree, the Bodhi tree, a sapling of which was brought by her to Sri Lanka and planted in Anuradhapura, and which still survives, is also celebrated every year on the Full Moon day of December as Uduvapa Poya or Uposatha Poya and Sanghamittā Day by Theravāda Buddhists in Sri Lanka.

The below extract from the same page is for the benefit of @langda khan who calls 14-year-old or 15-year-old girls as "children" because of being influenced by modern, dog-loving fake-feminists :

Early life​

Sangamitta's parents were the Emperor Ashoka and his first wife, Devi, who was a Buddhist. Her birth in 282 BC,[1] as popularly known in published texts was as the second child of Ashoka and younger sister of brother Mahindra. She was born in Ujjeini (present day Ujjain in Madhya Pradesh in India). Her mother did not join Ashoka when he was crowned and her two children had embraced Buddhism. She was married at the age of 14 to Agribrahma, a nephew of Emperor Ashoka, who was also an Arhant. She had a son, Saamanera Sumana who also later became an Arhant and went along with his uncle Mahindra to Sri Lanka to preach Buddhism. Her teacher was Ayupala. She was ordained at the age of 18 into Theravada Buddhism Order by their preceptor Dhammapala. Her brother was also ordained at the same time. With her dedicated perseverance to Dhamma she became an Arhant Theri and resided in Pataliputra (now known as Patna).

Will Langda Khan now say that Ashoka, whose Buddhist pillars adorn many places in South Asia and whose four-lions emblem and the wheel are the national symbols of India, is a pedophilia encourager because he married off his daughter at age 14 and she had sex that night or the next with her husband Agribrahma ( a pedo ??? ) and that should make Langda Khan immediately reject the national symbols of India ? A simple logical question.

2. When we mention Christianity in Europe we mustn't ignore what the popes did and the Crusaders did. The popes initiated persecution of humans ( the Inquisition ) and cats. They got the priests to throw cats off towers in a ceremony with rapturous crowds below. They created a system of callous people hunting down cats with cats and as the cat climbed into trees in fear to escape, the hunter with his two dogs firing arrows at the terrorized cat and if the cat fell injured or off balance, the dogs below ready to tear up him or her. They threw cats into bonfire. They tied cats to sticks and held the cat over fire. Imagine the pained shrieking of the cat. They chased cats out of houses. An entire insane continent involved in torturing cats despite prior or contemporary presence of Muslims in Europe who loved cats. Maybe this was the reason the popes hated cats, associating the Moslem, the Saracen with Satan who was personified by the cat.

But then came the Black Death that hastened up because there were not many cats alive to control the rodents. The mad priests and their madder followers had tortured the cats into almost extinction ( like is happening in India since 1999 ) and brought the Black Death onto themselves.

However, the Renaissance came and Europeans started wisening up and becoming civilized and over time stopped torturing cats. That elimination of cultural irrationality, brutality and overt respect for priesthood and beginning of questioning led to scientific advances that combined to prior Muslim advances and even prior Greek advances led to machineries and medical findings and instituted the Industrial Revolution.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

At the time of partition 1 in 5 person was Muslim and 4 in 5 Hindu. That's 80% Hindu vs 0% Buddhists! Buddhism was once the dominant religion in Bharat, why have they disappeared?

The only Buddhists in India currently are the mongoloid people in occupied Ladakh and NE regions (South Tibet, Sikkim, etc.). The persecuted Navayana Dalits don't count, as they're not descended from the original Buddhists.

We are told that destruction of Nalanda caused extinction of the Buddhists. Who destroyed it is up for debate, but for now let's agree with BJP-RSS version and assume Muslims destroyed it.

Did Nalanda's destruction cause some pandemic that wiped out the Buddhists but all Hindus were magically immune to it? Or Hindus were already done "dealing" with Buddhists by the time Muslims arrived? Which is it?

Buddism was a atheistic religion and was defeated by Islam.

All Buddist kingdoms lost to Islamic kings starting from the Central Asia.

 

[Menthol]

Agree with most and you wrote quite well but I differ in two things :

1. Buddhism saved people too but in the past, not only during the time of the Buddha like in the story of Amrapali and Ajaatshatru I mentioned in post# 21, but also Alexander's entry into India led eventually to events of the Indian emperor Ashoka adopting Buddhism and spreading Buddhism all over India and sending preacher ambassadors to other places including his daughter Sanghamitra and her brother Mahinda to Sri Lanka and that leading to a female monastic order there and :


The below extract from the same page is for the benefit of @langda khan who calls 14-year-old or 15-year-old girls as "children" because of being influenced by modern, dog-loving fake-feminists :

Will Langda Khan now say that Ashoka, whose Buddhist pillars adorn many places in South Asia and whose four-lions emblem and the wheel are the national symbols of India, is a pedophilia encourager because he married off his daughter at age 14 and she had sex that night or the next with her husband Agribrahma ( a pedo ??? ) and that should make Langda Khan immediately reject the national symbols of India ? A simple logical question.

2. When we mention Christianity in Europe we mustn't ignore what the popes did and the Crusaders did. The popes initiated persecution of humans ( the Inquisition ) and cats. They got the priests to throw cats off towers in a ceremony with rapturous crowds below. They created a system of callous people hunting down cats with cats and as the cat climbed into trees in fear to escape, the hunter with his two dogs firing arrows at the terrorized cat and if the cat fell injured or off balance, the dogs below ready to tear up him or her. They threw cats into bonfire. They tied cats to sticks and held the cat over fire. Imagine the pained shrieking of the cat. They chased cats out of houses. An entire insane continent involved in torturing cats despite prior or contemporary presence of Muslims in Europe who loved cats. Maybe this was the reason the popes hated cats, associating the Moslem, the Saracen with Satan who was personified by the cat.

But then came the Black Death that hastened up because there were not many cats alive to control the rodents. The mad priests and their madder followers had tortured the cats into almost extinction ( like is happening in India since 1999 ) and brought the Black Death onto themselves.

However, the Renaissance came and Europeans started wisening up and becoming civilized and over time stopped torturing cats. That elimination of cultural irrationality, brutality and overt respect for priesthood and beginning of questioning led to scientific advances that combined to prior Muslim advances and even prior Greek advances led to machineries and medical findings and instituted the Industrial Revolution.

Religions don't teach those ways.

But actually, those are human errors that need to be corrected by religious teaching.

Even in the modern world, we still do a lot of mistakes.

Without religion, it can be far worse than what you wrote.

 

[Zornix]

At the time of partition 1 in 5 person was Muslim and 4 in 5 Hindu. That's 80% Hindu vs 0% Buddhists! Buddhism was once the dominant religion in Bharat, why have they disappeared?

The only Buddhists in India currently are the mongoloid people in occupied Ladakh and NE regions (South Tibet, Sikkim, etc.). The persecuted Navayana Dalits don't count, as they're not descended from the original Buddhists.

We are told that destruction of Nalanda caused extinction of the Buddhists. Who destroyed it is up for debate, but for now let's agree with BJP-RSS version and assume Muslims destroyed it.

Did Nalanda's destruction cause some pandemic that wiped out the Buddhists but all Hindus were magically immune to it? Or Hindus were already done "dealing" with Buddhists by the time Muslims arrived? Which is it?

They were persecuted and wiped out by the Hindu majority. It is an open secret.

 

[Menthol]

Buddism was a atheistic religion and was defeated by Islam.

All Buddist kingdoms lost to Islamic kings starting from the Central Asia.

Indonesia used to be Buddhist kingdoms.

But then it was converted to Islam.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Indonesia used to be Buddhist kingdoms.

But then it was converted to Islam.

Hope that the whole of south east asia will revert to Islam in the next few decades.

 

[Rusty2]

They were forcefully converted or killed by Hindu Kingdoms.
History has constantly showed that whenever Hindus get into power in South Asia they genocide a major religion.
They did it to the indigenous religions, to Buddhism and now are trying to do it to Islam.

 

[langda khan]

They were persecuted and wiped out by the Hindu majority. It is an open secret.

Buddhism died in India. Buddhists did not. They simply became Hindu once again. Peacefully. Like the Sufi conversion of India to Islam.

 

[Drizzt]

@Drizzt @Paitoo @SIPRA ^^^

Sipra saheb, after you have looked at my first post here and then the above reply, you yesterday asked me not to get personal with members like Virus and @langda khan but what to say of people like them seeking to deprive a living human being of rights and dignity just because these members' ancestors instituted the most vile political, social and socio-economic systems in the history of humankind 3000 years ago and these members instead of condemning and rejecting their ancestors and parental beliefs and their god system and adopting humanist, progressive and scientific systems, continue to follow them and get outraged when someone questions the rationality of their beliefs ?

The USSR was built upon removing these kinds of stubbornly anti-humans but some sent to re-education camps to reflect and reform and start contributing to society and humanity for the first time in their lives.



Yeah, those Hindu dharmis sit in yoga positions in those "meditation retreats" in Noida and Bangalore and then depart to the shakha in their cars and motorbikes. And yes, Dalai Lama was such a peaceful person that he being a feudal lord with a personal torture chamber in his palace, torturing the peasants of Tibet, keeping them in shackles outside and cutting off their limbs as punishment and letting poor hungry people die in the mountain sun and having thousands of serfs and personal slaves. This is the source for the below picture. There are other pics there and on the internet but will be considered graphic to post here :

And when Dalai Lama was about to have his vile kingdom eliminated by the Chinese Communists, the CIA and the Indian military ( Assam Rifles regiment ) got him and his followers into India in 1959 to reside in Dharamsala and continues to live there. He was allowed to set up an anti-Communist "government-in-exile" and his people and their children form the Special Frontier Force, a special military unit under RAW. Dalai Lama's people live in various cities in India under funding from successive Indian governments and Western governments enabled by propagandists like the celebrity Hollywood actor Richard Gere.

Declared this year is Indian government allocating 40 crore more funds to the criminal Dalai Lama and his followers :

Why are Indian people's tax money going to these criminals ?



The wordings are similar because Gautama Buddha was a Hindu prince in Nepal by name of Siddhartha before he began deep thinking and that was his language.

I don't know about the Buddhist space for the reincarnation concept, must study, but I don't think Buddhism has space for ritualism like modern Buddhists do. And then do you think Buddha would have approved of Virus's below post which is utterly anti-human ?




Epebble, "Chamaar" used to be a oppressed caste in Hindu India and is still now that is involved in tanning of animal skin. They were the untouchables kept outside of "pure" Hindu habitations. The are now under the category of Dalits and caste-believing upper caste Hindus like Virus use Chamaar as a term to insult people, not only the original Chamaar community but maybe Muslims and Communists and anyone except the three upper castes in Hinduism. It is a word of insult.



Absolutely !



No, as I presented in post# 10, Buddhism and Hinduism are opposite, and Hinduism is India is 3000 years old having come from Iran and Buddha lived 2500 years ago. There is a 1966 Hindi film called Amrapali about a girl of that name who is the royal dancer of Vaishali kingdom in what is now Bihar around 500 BC and she becomes the obsession of the king Ajaatshatru of the Magadh empire who destroys her kingdom to obtain her but she is horrified by the bloodshed done in her name :

So the Buddha lived about 2500 years ago, 500 years after the coming of Hindus into India from Iran.

There is a beautiful song in the film called 'Tumhe yaad karte karte', an exquisite song, one of the most beautiful I have listened :

What is ?

Bro, my suggestion is avoid wasting time debating with them, create new threads instead. Scales better
@-=virus=- You cow piss drinker Brahman have only copyright on your Vedic trash.

 

[jamahir]

Bro, my suggestion is avoid wasting time debating with them, create new threads instead. Scales better

Agreed. I will soon make a thread out of my posts here.

Religions don't teach those ways.

But actually, those are human errors that need to be corrected by religious teaching.

Even in the modern world, we still do a lot of mistakes.

Without religion, it can be far worse than what you wrote.

Well, I will speak for a new human-wide belief system led by the eternal ideas of Communism but with the best practices and ideas from the other religions to be melded into it. For example, Hinduism has a wonderful concept called "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" ( The world is one family ). Then the ideas of Buddhism, Christianity, Islam and Sikhism and others contribute to Modern Communism. Please read of this post of mine from recent.

Hope that the whole of south east asia will revert to Islam in the next few decades.

Please stop using that Tableeghi / Dai / Zakir Naik'i word "Revert". Super cringe.

 

[-=virus=-]

Agreed. I will soon make a thread out of my posts here.

where's your thread, you ugly slum dwelling starving malnourished frustrated virgin bhikmanga ?

 

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