What do you hope/expect out of the Corps Commander Conference?

[Osiris]

Pressure has to be built up now and not later.

The problem can only be solved through third party resolution. Now if Pakistan makes LOC hot it will force world powers to intervene. They cannot let Pakistan / India go to full scale war.

You did try to do exactly the same in Kargil, infact you went one step ahead.
Then also world powers intervened , but did they intervene on your behalf? What was the result.?

 

[1Paki$tani]

You did try to do exactly the same in Kargil, infact you went one step ahead.
Then also world powers intervened , but did they intervene on your behalf?

Kargil was different story and world have changed so much since than. Historical references should also keep in mind the historical context as well.

Fight on scale of Kargil would mean intervention but there are many competing interests at international stage that outcome will be mutual.

 

[Adonis]

Nothing much. I believe this is a step taken in sync and possible tact approval from Pakistan.

It could be to built up tension to the point where world powers will have to intervene.

This should take us to the point where Trump has agreed to mediate and we might have mediation and end result could be that India takes Hindu majority part of Jamu and Ladakh while Pakistan gets Kashmir valley and part of jamu where Muslims are majority.

This will be win-win for both.

Per my views...someone in our establishment, govt. must be knowing what's going to happen regarding India's steps....I suspect, all this drama is being set to legitimise LOC as international border....and to end the dispute.

On bold part above...The subject of Kashmir under UN resolution comprised of IOK, AK, Gilgit-Bal and Ladhakh. When we say we get kashmir valley and India can take Jammu ladhakh, we are assuming that AK and GB are not disputed (whereas India lay it's claim on it)......how then there can be any resolution when we are selective in our discussions, and what is making us think that India is ok to accept any future negotiation from a lower table just to defend the part of Kashmir under it's occupation?
Regarding Muslim majority etc....it doesn't work anymore that way anymore...at least I have not seen any solution to Muslim majority Palastine so far... today or anytime..."Might is Right".

 

[fitpOsitive]

Salaam


What sort of press release do you expect will come out of the Corps Commander Conference?

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Personally, I expect and hope for some measures that take effect immediately - not declaration of war or anything - that will send the message that Pakistan is serious and it's not business as usual.

More importantly, however, I expect the policy statement that comes out to be worded as such that it undoes the policy shift by Musharraf to consider the local resistance as not a legitimate struggle.

I don't expect it say Pakistan will support the local resistance movement with arms and such - just that the locals have the right to resist and Pakistan supports that right. Something diplomatic but clear enough as well.

I also hope for Pakistan to really try hard to bring about a settlement between the US and the Taliban ASAP so we can focus on this. However, that will be behind the scenes mostly.

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Action plan.

 

[Ahmer Rana]

I must say that Indians have played their card very well. Now what options Pakistan have.
1: Raise this issue on international forum but that's not gonna work we all know it.
2: Military option. But that's not a sane thing to do right now. This is the thing that Indians want us to do. With Afghan peace still in process and FATF after us we can not do anything. Until America is in Afghanistan, our backyard will stay on fire. Indians will try to pin down us between two frontal war and it will sabotage all our progress on WOT that we have made in these years. So we should wait now and let the Afghan Peace process complete and yankees get out of Afghanistan. Then it will be us versus India only.
And to all Pakistanis out there
No one will ever fight your war you are own your own. So better prepare yourselves.

 

[khansaheeb]

Nothing much. I believe this is a step taken in sync and possible tact approval from Pakistan.

It could be to built up tension to the point where world powers will have to intervene.

This should take us to the point where Trump has agreed to mediate and we might have mediation and end result could be that India takes Hindu majority part of Jamu and Ladakh while Pakistan gets Kashmir valley and part of jamu where Muslims are majority.

This will be win-win for both.

Dividing IOK between Indian and Pakistan possible but unlikely. They are using the old divide and rule tactic, first they will take one half and then take the second, this is how Bhanyas behave.

 

[War Thunder]

Nothing much. I believe this is a step taken in sync and possible tact approval from Pakistan.

It could be to built up tension to the point where world powers will have to intervene.

This should take us to the point where Trump has agreed to mediate and we might have mediation and end result could be that India takes Hindu majority part of Jamu and Ladakh while Pakistan gets Kashmir valley and part of jamu where Muslims are majority.

This will be win-win for both.

Goodluck with that innocence and optimism.
It doesn't work with jungli folk like modi & co.

 

[newb3e]

Mou keh fire!

and plan to launch dha in neelum valley!

 

[1Paki$tani]

Per my views...someone in our establishment, govt. must be knowing what's going to happen regarding India's steps....I suspect, all this drama is being set to legitimise LOC as international border....and to end the dispute.

On bold part above...The subject of Kashmir under UN resolution comprised of IOK, AK, Gilgit-Bal and Ladhakh. When we say we get kashmir valley and India can take Jammu ladhakh, we are assuming that AK and GB are not disputed (whereas India lay it's claim on it)......how then there can be any resolution when we are selective in our discussions, and what is making us think that India is ok to accept any future negotiation from a lower table just to defend the part of Kashmir under it's occupation?
Regarding Muslim majority etc....it doesn't work anymore that way anymore...at least I have not seen any solution to Muslim majority Palastine so far... today or anytime..."Might is Right".

Though I thought that would be the case but Kashmir valley will be sticking point. What Modi has done with this is that he has made enemies out of those who wanted to be with India. Today they are also talking about two state solution being the right path.

It is not possible in light of the resistance from Kashmir Valley and my view is that negotiation will be on this as Kashmir valley is critical, its bone that India cannot throw out and its bone that it cannot swallow.

Goodluck with that innocence and optimism.
It doesn't work with jungli folk like modi & co.

Not my optimism but the reality of things as I see it. if Pakistan does not take action it means Pakistan has given up Kashmir.

Pakistan has to up the pressure on LOC.

Mou keh fire!

and plan to launch dha in neelum valley!

By that you are only legitimising Indian control of Kashmir.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Salaam


What sort of press release do you expect will come out of the Corps Commander Conference?

---

Personally, I expect and hope for some measures that take effect immediately - not declaration of war or anything - that will send the message that Pakistan is serious and it's not business as usual.

More importantly, however, I expect the policy statement that comes out to be worded as such that it undoes the policy shift by Musharraf to consider the local resistance as not a legitimate struggle.

I don't expect it say Pakistan will support the local resistance movement with arms and such - just that the locals have the right to resist and Pakistan supports that right. Something diplomatic but clear enough as well.

I also hope for Pakistan to really try hard to bring about a settlement between the US and the Taliban ASAP so we can focus on this. However, that will be behind the scenes mostly.

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Public appeasement

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

The international power may intervene but not on anyone's behalf. Just to bring about a ceasefire.


You only get whatever you win on the field of battle in Kashmir. So if we want to take territory we'd have to take it ourselves. Only help that can be relied upon in the truest sense is Allah.

 

[Sugarcane]

Commanders along with chief will issue press release and tweet of condemnation, Our intelligence network is strong enough to get intel about what India was going to do in advance, If ruling elite was serious about J&K then they would have already done NSC & Crops commanders meeting weeks ago and had action plans in place.

 

[newb3e]

By that you are only legitimising Indian control of Kashmir

exactly

thats the plan!

first phase protest
second phase small skermish
third phase end fight on a high
fourth phase declear azad kashmir province of Pakistab
fifth phase illegal land grabbing in neelum valley
sixth phase launch dha neelum valley!

 

[loanranger]

fifth phase illegal land grabbing in neelum valley
sixth phase launch dha neelum valley!

Are you mad? In a time like this where PAK Army is the only reason you live freely in Pakistan or used to incase you ran off and you are into that stupid plot propoganda....shame on you

 

[manga]

Nothing much. I believe this is a step taken in sync and possible tact approval from Pakistan.

It could be to built up tension to the point where world powers will have to intervene.

This should take us to the point where Trump has agreed to mediate and we might have mediation and end result could be that India takes Hindu majority part of Jamu and Ladakh while Pakistan gets Kashmir valley and part of jamu where Muslims are majority.

This will be win-win for both.

So cute of you think india will hand over kashmir on a negotiation table to pakistan. Just like that.
If pakistan really wants kashmir only option left is full fledged war, small skirmishes like 27 feb will not cut it.