What causes the extreme drop in oil and gas prices? And who wants to crush russias only income?

[MarkusS]

Its quite interesting:

The Saudis pump oil like no tomorrow and flood the market with it. The price is in free fall. It gets cheaper and cheaper at the gas stations. For russia this causes extreme problems. Gas and oil is their only mayor income. If the price drops below 80$ a barrel, then russia gets into existential trouble.

Andrei Nechayev interview: The Russian economy is in big trouble, and it’s not because of Western sanctions.

I must say thats a pretty good tactic and all profit.

We in the west get cheap oil and gas, Putins economy is crushed and his budget melts away. His finance minister already said a rise in the military budget is impossible now. And Saudi Arabia kicks russias *** for supporting Assad. On the backside it also hits Iran.

perfect

 

[Imran Khan]

whatever we are happy with cheap fuel . i wish pakistan order some billions of barrels for future

 

[Audio]

I must say thats a pretty good tactic and all profit.

Nothing is free Markus. Saudi's traded drop in oil price for a free hand in Middle East, namely Iraq, Syria, Bahrain, Yemen. Consequences of this are yet to be determined, if they actually go in our favour or not.

 

[MarkusS]

Nothing is free Markus. Saudi's traded drop in oil price for a free hand in Middle East, namely Iraq, Syria, Bahrain, Yemen. Consequences of this are yet to be determined, if they actually go in our favour or not.

I´m fine with that. Russia is the Enemy of europe and not saudi arabia

 

[Audio]

I´m fine with that. Russia is the Enemy of europe and not saudi arabia

Oh please! They can't do shit, Putin lashes out periodically when his internal support goes towards the lower end, while ME controlled by Saudi's, with their lavishly funded religious structures would become a hatchery of extremism. And all they have to do, is pass the seamingly 100% porous border to Turkey, and then cross in to Schengen over another nearly 100% porous border between Turkey and Greece.

#edit: don't get carried away if you read some of Saudi posters' here, in how they are modernizing. Sure, there are steps, but one of the pillars of power in that country still rests on very conservative, religious old men.

 

[MarkusS]

Oh please! They can't do shit, Putin lashes out periodically when his internal support goes towards the lower end, while ME controlled by Saudi's, with their lavishly funded religious structures would become a hatchery of extremism. And all they have to do, is pass the seamingly 100% porous border to Turkey, and then cross in to Schengen over another nearly 100% porous border between Turkey and Greece.

russia murdered almost 300 EU citizens this summer.

That was a decleration of war. There can be and will be no friendship with this tyrannical regime.

If we would be as pathetic as the russians are we would shot down an aeroflot jet. But we aren´t that low as them. So we do it that way. It is far more effective. Sanctions kill silent.

 

[Audio]

There can be and will be no friendship with this tyrannical regime.

You're in for a disapointment then, as i reckon that in less than a year, business will be back to usual tempo.

 

[MarkusS]

You're in for a disapointment then, as i reckon that in less than a year, business will be back to usual tempo.

I doubt that. Things stand on storm and i support this. That NATO is pushed more eastwards as well. I just hope Putin simply dies off from his cancer and good.

 

[thesolar65]

whatever we are happy with cheap fuel . i wish pakistan order some billions of barrels for future

Agreed...at the end of the day we get cheap fuel. Common man in India & Pakistan does not care where Oil comes from. Time for both nation and China also to store as much oil as possible.

BTW we are having another Rs.2.50 drop in petrol and diesel price tonight or next day. What about yours??

 

[Imran Khan]

Agreed...at the end of the day we get cheap fuel. Common man in India & Pakistan does not care where Oil comes from. Time for both nation and China also to store as much oil as possible.

BTW we are having another Rs.2.50 drop in petrol and diesel price tonight or next day. What about yours??

we have record breaking drop of some 10 rupee . first tiem in history of pakistan patrol will be 93 rupee per litter

 

[Audio]

I doubt that. Things stand on storm and i support this. That NATO is pushed more eastwards as well.

Russians can't play this game for long. And all they do at this point is intended to shift away attention from Crimea, so that everyone forgets it's annexation.

 

[MarkusS]

Russians can't play this game for long. And all they do at this point is intended to shift away attention from Crimea, so that everyone forgets it's annexation.

Nobody gives a shit about crimea from the beginning. This is about who controls Ukraine. Crimea has nothing of value. Putler already lost Ukraine and his puppet Yanukowitch. The last election was even more pro west

 

[zzzz]

russia murdered almost 300 EU citizens this summer.

That was a decleration of war. There can be and will be no friendship with this tyrannical regime.

If we would be as pathetic as the russians are we would shot down an aeroflot jet. But we aren´t that low as them. So we do it that way. It is far more effective. Sanctions kill silent.

Nobody offer friendship for thugs, nazi and terrorist supporters. You will have to do a lot to deserve that. Before that you will be our b*tch and cash cow. Of course there will be no oil and gas supply on previous terms anymore, the supplies will be reduced for at least next 10 years and will be rerouted to China. This is the punishment. You can forget about growth. In about 5 years when the world starts to feel real shortage of gas and oil the EU will start to collapse. We will offer gas and oil only for selected countries that would agree to join Eurasian Union.

 

[Audio]

Nobody gives a shit about crimea from the beginning. This is about who controls Ukraine. Crimea has nothing of value. Putler already lost Ukraine and his puppet Yanukowitch. The last election was even more pro west

ENI, OMV and Exxon care. They signed agreements with Ukrainian government (then Yanukovich) in November last year, to drill in Black sea. Now, all that is void, and Russia will get a hold on profits, further weakening an already weak Ukraine, for which we will be paying. Furthermore, oil probings revealed that before annexation Russian part of the Black Sea wasn't that rich with resources, but Ukrainian part was.
Also, only warm water port that can service Russian Mediteranean fleet is located in Crimea. They are building a new port on Russian soil not that far away, but it's at least a few years from completion.
As a hidden bonus, taking Crimean teritorial waters means, that if South Stream gets a go, the pipeline will be cheaper because it would no longer avoid Ukrainian waters.

So, you see, Crimea has some value. Russia's policies can be observed in clear light from this example. They do not want us to diversify our energy imports. They blocked the pipeline from Qatar by proping up Assad, and now they are taking resources from Ukraine, to, rather perversly, sell us those same resources.

 

[MarkusS]

Nobody offer friendship for thugs, nazi and terrorist supporters. You will have to do a lot to deserve that. Before that you will be our b*tch and cash cow. Of course there will be no oil and gas supply on previous terms anymore, the supplies will be reduced for at least next 10 years and will be rerouted to China. This is the punishment. You can forget about growth. In about 5 years when the world starts to feel real shortage of gas and oil the EU will start to collapse. We will offer gas and oil only for selected countries that would agree to join Eurasian Union.

lol you do as we demand. Thats it. Beside that, what you offer is meaningless. Your "friendship" is worthless.

ENI, OMV and Exxon care. They signed agreements with Ukrainian government (then Yanukovich) in November last year, to drill in Black sea. Now, all that is void, and Russia will get a hold on profits, further weakening an already weak Ukraine, for which we will be paying. Furthermore, oil probings revealed that before annexation Russian part of the Black Sea wasn't that rich with resources, but Ukrainian part was.
Also, only warm water port that can service Russian Mediteranean fleet is located in Crimea. They are building a new port on Russian soil not that far away, but it's at least a few years from completion.
As a hidden bonus, taking Crimean teritorial waters means, that if South Stream gets a go, the pipeline will be cheaper because it would no longer avoid Ukrainian waters.

So, you see, Crimea has some value. Russia's policies can be observed in clear light from this example. They do not want us to diversify our energy imports. They blocked the pipeline from Qatar by proping up Assad, and now they are taking resources from Ukraine, to, rather perversly, sell us those same resources.

ha ha you are a russian. No sane normal being would talk such rubbish. So don´t say "us" and we...i don´t see anything in common with you. I find it rather funny you would select a swiss flag.