Welcome to Vietnam: Harris arrives Hanoi for a 3 day visit

[Viva_Viet]

Saigon has more people than just one million Hoa. Commerce is sometimes more important than industry. Look HK. Canton is rich just thanks to commerce.

Commerce is sometimes more important than industry ?? Oh, if u forgot, let me remind u that US has to slap 25% tariff on CN's products now bcs Trump realize that once day US will be defeated by CN bcs CN manufacture everything for US.

too many US people are jobless during Covid now and they are becoming crazy bcs US failed to attrack factories jobs.

 

[IblinI]

You are lying.

Many VPA officiers was served in France Army. After revolution 1945 many of the them joined to VPA. we do know well how to fight with France.


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Are you trying to alter the history just by hitting that keyboard?

During the First Indochina War
In the early 1950s, the Vietnamese Communists confronted formidable enemies and Ho Chi Minh avidly sought advice and weapons from China. The PRC began to send their advisors and later form the Chinese Military Advisory Group (CMAG) to assist the Viet Minh forces led by Wei Guoqing and Chen Geng. CMAG and Viet Minh began training for their first campaign. In September 1950, the Border Campaigns were launched.[2]:42 And between April and September 1950, China sent to the Viet Minh 14,000 rifles and pistols, 1,700 machine guns and recoilless rifles, 150 mortars, 60 artillery pieces and 300 bazookas, as well as ammunition, medicine, communications materials, clothes and 2,800 tons of food.[1]:20

 

[Viva_Viet]

@Viet these words should be recorded and pass it down in the history of PDF.

Yeah, we will not lift the lock down soon bcs we can't let people in Sagon and those Hoa ethnic to reopen their restaurants, their clothes shops during Covid.

 

[MH.Yang]

France recognized Vietnam independence very soon from 1946, when Ho Chi Minh visited France after WW Ii. China intervented in Vietnam war just for get position to negociate with France in 1954. With this dirty policy of China, for that to cut Vietnam in to two part like what China did in Korea.

Under this lession in Confrence in Paris 1968, Vietnam did not permit other party to choice.

Ho Chi Minh visited France in 1946
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In January 1950, Ho Chi Minh walked 17 days to China to seek assistance. At this time, the Central Committee of the VCP had hid in the forest on the border between China and Vietnam. Haiphong, Hanoi and Nanding were all occupied by the French army.
In June 1950, China's military assistance arrived in Vietnam. In July, General Chen Geng began to command the Vietnamese army. In September, the Vietnamese army won the border battle. At this time, the situation in Vietnam began to turn around.

 

[IblinI]

Yeah, we will not lift the lock down soon bcs we can't let people in Sagon and those Hoa ethnic to reopen their restaurants, their clothes shops during Covid.

Talked like a proud and true patriot.

 

[Viva_Viet]

In January 1950, Ho Chi Minh walked 17 days to China to seek assistance. At this time, the Central Committee of the VCP had hid in the forest on the border between China and Vietnam. Haiphong, Hanoi and Nanding were all occupied by the French army.
In June 1950, China's military assistance arrived in Vietnam. In July, General Chen Geng began to command the Vietnamese army. In September, the Vietnamese army won the border battle. At this time, the situation in Vietnam began to turn around.

Lying is not good, we asked help from Soviet first, then Stalin told Mao to support VN. Bcs Mao owed Soviet a big debt after CN civil war, so Mao had to do what Stalin told Mao to do to pay back the debt.

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In January 1950, Moscow belatedly recognised Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh as the ‘official’ rulers of Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh journeyed to Moscow and sought Soviet military backing for his war of independence against the French. Stalin, whose attentions were concentrated on Europe, rejected his overtures. Instead, Stalin encouraged his communist ally, Mao Zedong, to support the Viet Minh.

Chinese and Soviet involvement in Vietnam

Across the border to the north, Chinese and Soviet involvement in Vietnam was also building. Their support strengthened North Vietnam and the Viet Cong.

alphahistory.com

 

[cochine]

Are you trying to alter the history just by hitting that keyboard?

During the First Indochina War
In the early 1950s, the Vietnamese Communists confronted formidable enemies and Ho Chi Minh avidly sought advice and weapons from China. The PRC began to send their advisors and later form the Chinese Military Advisory Group (CMAG) to assist the Viet Minh forces led by Wei Guoqing and Chen Geng. CMAG and Viet Minh began training for their first campaign. In September 1950, the Border Campaigns were launched.[2]:42 And between April and September 1950, China sent to the Viet Minh 14,000 rifles and pistols, 1,700 machine guns and recoilless rifles, 150 mortars, 60 artillery pieces and 300 bazookas, as well as ammunition, medicine, communications materials, clothes and 2,800 tons of food.[1]:20

This weapons are nots made by China, China had just transferred the amount of weapons Soviet Union had given to China .

 

[Viva_Viet]

Talked like a proud and true patriot.

As the true Han patriot, man like you'd better admit that CN is still very weak, still rely deeply on exporting products to EU-US to earn money.

CN will not survive if US-EU slap 100% tariff to all CN export products like what Trump want. US will crush CN easily like Mongol did to CN in 13th century.

 

[Viet]

Commerce is sometimes more important than industry ?? Oh, if u forgot, let me remind u that US has to slap 25% tariff on CN's products now bcs Trump realize that once day US will be defeated by CN bcs CN manufacture everything for US.

too many US people are jobless during Covid now and they are becoming crazy bcs US failed to attrack factories jobs.

The US is a tech nation. Making shoes can be outsourced, because irrelevant.
In 3 weeks from now all Saigoner will get two shots vaccines all will be vaccinated then the city can be reopened. So the plan of the government.

 

[cochine]

In June 1950, China's military assistance arrived in Vietnam. In July, General Chen Geng began to command the Vietnamese army.

Big joke, VPA never permited foreigner to be commander of VPA. You are idiot kid.

 

[Viet]

@Viet these words should be recorded and pass it down in the history of PDF.

making fun is free. Costs nothing. VN is aware of possible chinese retaliation ranging from economic to other means.

“In 2020, China-Vietnam trade reached $192.28 billion, up 18.7 percent year-on-year. China's exports to Vietnam reached $113.81 billion and its imports from Vietnam reached $78.47 billion, year-on-year growth of 16.3 percent and 22.4 percent, respectively, data from the Ministry of Commerce showed.”

Harris' Vietnam visit 'wrong time, wrong target, negative effect' - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

 

[Viva_Viet]

This weapons are nots made by China, China had just transferred the amount of weapons Soviet Union had given to China .

Most of weapons are supplied by Soviet

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Weapons of the North Vietnam (Việt Minh)

Edged weapons[edit]

• 17-inch spike bayonet used on the MAS-36 rifle (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• Spike bayonet used on the Mosin–Nagant rifle (Soviet Union supply)
• Bolo knife (Captured from France)
• Crossbow
• HY1935 bayonet used on the Chinese Chiang Kai-Shek rifle (Chinese supply)
• Ka-Bar (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• M3 fighting knife used on the M1 Carbine (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• M4 bayonet used on the M1 Carbine (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• M5 bayonet used on the M1 Garand (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• M1905 bayonet used on the M1 Garand and Springfield M1903 (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• M1917 bayonet used on the Enfield M1917 (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• MAS-49/56 bayonet used on the MAS-49 rifle (Captured from France)
• Pattern P1907 bayonet used on the Lee–Enfield rifle (Captured from France)
• Seitengewehr 84/98 III (Bayonet) used on the Mauser Karabiner 98k (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• Type 30 bayonet used on the Arisaka Type 30 rifle, Arisaka Type 38 rifle and Arisaka Type 99 rifle (Captured from Japan)

Sidearms[edit]
Pistols and revolvers[edit]

• Colt M1911 (Captured from France)
• Luger P08 (Captured from France and Soviet Union supply)
• MAB D (Captured from France)
• MAC M1950 (Captured from France)
• Makarov pistol (Soviet Union supply)
• MAS M1892 (Captured from France)
• Mauser C96 (Chinese supply by Chinese copies)
• Nambu pistol (Captured from Japan)
• SACM M1935A (Captured from France)
• SACM M1935S (Captured from France)
• Smith & Wesson Model 10 (Captured from France)
• Tokarev TT (Soviet Union supply)
• Walther P38 (Captured from France)

Rifles[edit]
Carbines[edit]

• M1 Carbine (Someone from OSS in WW2 supplied it but it was primarily captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• M1A1 Carbine (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)

Automatic rifles[edit]

• Sturmgewehr 44 (Soviet Union supply)

Semi-automatic rifles[edit]

• M1 Garand (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• MAS-44 rifle (Captured from France)
• MAS-49 rifle (Captured from France)
• Gewehr 43 rifle (Captured from France)

Bolt-action rifles[edit]

• Arisaka Type 30 rifle (Captured from Japan)
• Arisaka Type 38 rifle (Captured from Japan)
• Arisaka Type 99 rifle (Captured from Japan)
• Berthier M1902 (Captured from France)
• Chiang Kai-Shek rifle (Licensed copy of the Mauser Gewehr 98, also known as Type 24 rifle, Chinese supply)
• Enfield M1917 (Captured from France, State of Vietnam and Chinese supply)[2]
• Gras M1874 (Limited use)
• Hanyang 88 (Chinese supply)
• Lebel M1886 (Captured from France)
• Lee–Enfield rifle (Captured from France, State of Vietnam and bought secretly from Malaysia and Thailand)[2]
• MAS-36 rifle (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• Mauser Gewehr 98 (Captured from France and Soviet Union supply)
• Mauser Karabiner 98k (Captured from France and Soviet Union supply)
• Mosin–Nagant rifle (Soviet Union supply)
• Springfield M1903 (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)

Automatic weapons[edit]
Submachine guns[edit]

• Lanchester submachine gun (Bought secretly from Malaysia and Thailand)[7]
• M3 submachine gun (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• Madsen M-50 (Captured from France)[8]
• MAS-38 (Captured from France and State of Vietnam) Limited use
• MAT-49 (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• MP 40 (Captured from France and Soviet Union supply)
• Nambu Type 100 submachine gun (Captured from Japan)
• PPSh-41 (Soviet Union supply)
• PPS (Soviet Union supply)
• Sten submachine gun (Limited use, someone from OSS in WW2 supplied it but it was primarily captured from France)
• Thompson M1928A1 submachine gun (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• Thompson M1A1 submachine gun (Captured from France, State of Vietnam and Soviet Union supply)

Light machine guns[edit]

• Bren light machine gun (Captured from France)
• Browning M1918 (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• Chauchat M1915 (Captured from France and used in limited numbers because of no ammunition)
• Degtyaryov machine gun (Soviet Union supply)
• Hotchkiss M1922 machine gun (Captured from France)
• Lewis machine gun (Captured from France)[3]
• MAC M1924/29 light machine gun (Captured from France and State of Vietnam)
• MG 34 (Soviet Union supply)
• Type 11 light machine gun (Captured from Japan)
• Type 96 light machine gun (Captured from Japan)
• Type 99 light machine gun (Captured from Japan)
• ZB vz. 26 (Soviet Union supply)
• ZB vz. 30 (Soviet Union supply)

Medium machine guns[edit]

• Browning M1919 (Captured from France)
• Hotchkiss M1914 machine gun (Captured from France)
• MG 34 (Soviet Union supply)
• PM M1910 (Soviet Union supply)[3]
• Reibel machine gun (Captured from France and used dismounted)

Heavy machine guns[edit]

• Browning M1917 (Captured from France)
• Browning M2 (Captured from France)
• DShK machine gun (Soviet Union supply)
• Hotchkiss M1929 machine gun (Captured from France)[3]
• Type 3 heavy machine gun (Captured from Japan)[3]
• Type 24 machine gun (Chinese supply)
• Type 92 heavy machine gun (Captured from Japan)
• Type 93 machine gun (Captured from Japan)[3]
• Vickers machine gun (Captured from France)

Explosives and grenades[edit]

• Chinese Stielhandgranate (Chinese supply)
• DF37 defensive grenade (Captured from France)
• Lunge anti-tank mine
• Mk 2 fragmentation grenade (Captured from France)
• Molotov fire grenade
• OF35 offensive grenade (Captured from France)
• OF37 offensive grenade (Captured from France)
• Satchel charge
• Stielhandgranate (Soviet Union supply)
• Type 91 grenade (Captured from Japan)
• Vietnamese Bangalore torpedo

Mortars[edit]

• 82-BM-41 (Soviet Union supply)
• 120-PM-38 (Soviet Union supply)
• Brandt 81 mm M1927/31 (Captured from France)
• Brandt 60.7 mm M1935 (Captured from France)
• Brandt 120 mm M1945 (Captured from France)[3]
• Lance Grenades 50 mm M1937 (Captured from France)[3]
• M1 mortar (Captured from France)[3]
• M2 mortar (Captured from France)
• M2 4.2-inch mortar (Captured from France)[3]
• Type 10 grenade discharger (Captured from Japan)
• Type 89 grenade discharger (Captured from Japan)
• Type 97 81 mm infantry mortar (Captured from Japan)[9]
• Vietnamese 50,8 mm, 60 mm, 81 mm, 120 mm and 187 mm mortar[9]

Anti-tank weapons[edit]

• M1 Bazooka rocket launcher (Captured from France)
• M3 37 mm anti-tank gun (Captured from France)[4]
• M18 recoilless rifle (Captured from France)
• M20 recoilless rifle (Captured from France)
• M20 Super Bazooka rocket launcher (Captured from France and Chinese supply from Korean War)
• Ordnance QF 6-pounder (Captured from France)[4]
• PIAT (Captured from France)[3]
• SKZ 60 recoilless rifle
• Type 94 37 mm anti-tank gun[10]
• Vietnamese 60 mm, 120 mm and 185 mm rocket launcher[9]
• Vietnamese Bazooka rocket launcher (Supplied by Trần Đại Nghĩa)
• Vietnamese SS recoilless rifle[3]

Anti-aircraft weapons[edit]

• 37 mm 61-K M1939 automatic air defense gun (Soviet Union supply)
• Bofors 40 mm (Captured from France)[5]
• DShK machine gun (Soviet Union supply)
• Hotchkiss M1929 machine gun (Captured from France)[5]
• Oerlikon 20 mm (Captured from France)[5]
• Schneider 75 mm M1913, M1915 and M1917 AA gun (Captured from France in fort Lang)[11]
• Type 88 75 mm AA gun (Captured from Japan)[5]
• Type 98 20 mm AA machine cannon (Captured from Japan)[5]

Artillery[edit]

• 75 mm M1897 field cannon (Captured from France)[5]
• H-6 Multiple rocket launcher (Chinese supply)[12]
• M101 105 mm howitzer (Captured from France and Chinese supply)
• M116 75 mm howitzer (Captured from France and Chinese supply)
• Ordnance QF 3.7-inch mountain howitzer (Captured from France)[5]
• Schneider 65 mm M1906 mountain cannon (Captured from France)[5]
• Schneider 105 mm L M1936 field cannon (Limited use, captured from France)[5]
• Type 38 75 mm field cannon (Captured from Japan and called Son Phao by the Vietnamese)[5]
• Type 41 75 mm mountain cannon (Captured from Japan and called Son Phao by the Vietnamese)
• Type 92 battalion cannon (Captured from Japan)[5]

Other vehicles[edit]

• GAZ-51 (Soviet Union supply)
• GAZ-63 (Soviet Union supply)

Communications[edit]
Radios[edit]

• A-7 (transceiver)

Uniforms and helmets[edit]

• SSh-40 (Soviet Union supply)

Weapons of the First Indochina War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[MH.Yang]

Lying is not good, we asked help from Soviet first, then Stalin told Mao to support VN. Bcs Mao owed Soviet a big debt after CN civil war, so Mao had to do what Stalin told Mao to do to pay back the debt.

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In January 1950, Moscow belatedly recognised Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh as the ‘official’ rulers of Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh journeyed to Moscow and sought Soviet military backing for his war of independence against the French. Stalin, whose attentions were concentrated on Europe, rejected his overtures. Instead, Stalin encouraged his communist ally, Mao Zedong, to support the Viet Minh.

Chinese and Soviet involvement in Vietnam

Across the border to the north, Chinese and Soviet involvement in Vietnam was also building. Their support strengthened North Vietnam and the Viet Cong.

alphahistory.com

In 1950, China did not owe the Soviet Union debt.

China's debt to the Soviet Union came from aid and loans from September 1954 to June 1958.



The CCP and the SUCP are equal.
The China Soviet relationship broke down because the Soviet Union wanted to station a fleet on Chinese territory.
We are not a Soviet colony, so we let them go.
In 1965, while enduring three years of famine, we paid off the debts of the Soviet Union.

 

[REhorror]

Wow, that escalates quickly.

 

[MH.Yang]

Big joke, VPA never permited foreigner to be commander of VPA. You are idiot kid.

Well, North Koreans also believe that the commander of the Korean War is not Peng Dehuai, but Kim Il Sung. Koreans also believe that their army is under the command of Bai Shanye.

You're a joke, Lack of basic political knowledge. Do you really think Vietnamese and North Koreans are qualified to talk about command with the Chinese?

Or you ask the Americans and the French to see if they believe you?