We ‘culturally dominated’ China for over 2,000 years: Rajnath

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

India has “culturally dominated” China through the sea route for over 2,000 years, Union home minister Rajnath Singh said on Friday at the Maritime Summit in Mumbai.

Speaking at the event, Singh also described the Gangetic plains as the cradle of all civilisation.

When the Chinese revolution was on, the then Peking University vice-chancellor Hu Shih, who also represented China at the UN, wrote that “India has dominated and culturally controlled China for more than 2,000 years without sending a single soldier,” the minister said.

“The message has truly gone to China as well that Indian culture has influenced it and it might have gone only through the sea route,” Singh said, delivering the valedictory speech at the maiden Maritime Summit.

He also quoted the French philosopher Voltaire as saying that “I am fully convinced that everything has come from the banks of the Ganges.”

Singh further said that as India grows economically, militarily and technologically, its “national security imperatives and political interests will stretch gradually beyond the Indian Ocean Region.”

Contribution of the shipping and maritime sector to GDP will grow by nearly three times over the next five years, he said, and added that it will continue to play an important role in the economic expansion.

The home minister’s statement comes in the backdrop of New Delhi’s strained relationship with Beijing after China recently blocked a proposal to proscribe the Pakistan-based terrorist group Jaish-e-Mohammed’s founder Masood Azhar.

Singh also exuded confidence that the shipping ministry will achieve its target of garnering over USD 66 billion in investments over the next five years for the Sagarmala project.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...ars-rajnath/story-tvZwgBoJn1CtpqFbiKYBmJ.html

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Sorry I couldn't help myself from stop laughing

 

[CHD]

India has “culturally dominated” China through the sea route for over 2,000 years, Union home minister Rajnath Singh said on Friday at the Maritime Summit in Mumbai.

Speaking at the event, Singh also described the Gangetic plains as the cradle of all civilisation.

When the Chinese revolution was on, the then Peking University vice-chancellor Hu Shih, who also represented China at the UN, wrote that “India has dominated and culturally controlled China for more than 2,000 years without sending a single soldier,” the minister said.

“The message has truly gone to China as well that Indian culture has influenced it and it might have gone only through the sea route,” Singh said, delivering the valedictory speech at the maiden Maritime Summit.

He also quoted the French philosopher Voltaire as saying that “I am fully convinced that everything has come from the banks of the Ganges.”

Singh further said that as India grows economically, militarily and technologically, its “national security imperatives and political interests will stretch gradually beyond the Indian Ocean Region.”

Contribution of the shipping and maritime sector to GDP will grow by nearly three times over the next five years, he said, and added that it will continue to play an important role in the economic expansion.

The home minister’s statement comes in the backdrop of New Delhi’s strained relationship with Beijing after China recently blocked a proposal to proscribe the Pakistan-based terrorist group Jaish-e-Mohammed’s founder Masood Azhar.

Singh also exuded confidence that the shipping ministry will achieve its target of garnering over USD 66 billion in investments over the next five years for the Sagarmala project.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...ars-rajnath/story-tvZwgBoJn1CtpqFbiKYBmJ.html

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Sorry I couldn't help myself from stop laughing

Indians cant spend a day without declaring themselves Supa pawa, from vedic time where they were traveling to other planets till date where they have the world most lethal plane which is still to be inducted ut export orders are already being finalised

 

[bongbang]

Maybe he means this
http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/china-officially-atheist-country-promotes-buddhism

 

[somebozo]

Indian Afghan collaboration has started to make Afghan drugs available to Indian politicians and this is what he was smoking before making a statement...

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Maybe he means this
http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/china-officially-atheist-country-promotes-buddhism

Buddha was from Nepal though.

And Nepal was never a part of India, or even British India.

 

[Nilgiri]

And Nepal was never a part of India, or even British India.

Sure it was, under the Mauryan and Gupta empires...just to name 2. Many other smaller Indian kingdoms (Pala, Magadha, Kosala and so on) have had the territory of what we call Nepal under their control. Nepal itself is traditionally considered an Indian kingdom.

Besides our Home minister is just quoting one of your own:

http://chr.sagepub.com/content/50/3/177.abstract

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/drisht...hina-influence-that-goes-back-many-millennia/

If you are bitter about the flocking of your people to Buddhism for many years which is a branch of the greater Dharmic philosophical world originating in India...keep it to yourself. Don't distort history by claiming Nepal has no deeper connection to India or was never part of it....and that thus Buddhism is not based firmly in the Indian cultural sphere.

Sorry I couldn't help myself from stop laughing

Laughing at Hu Shih as well?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Shih

Hmmm I wonder what magnitudes more he has achieved in real life compared to some fake troll laugh on an internet forum.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Sure it was, under the Mauryan and Gupta empires.

Besides our Home minister is just quoting one of your own:

http://chr.sagepub.com/content/50/3/177.abstract

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/drisht...hina-influence-that-goes-back-many-millennia/

If you are bitter about the flocking of your people to Buddhism for many years which is a branch of the greater Dharmic philosophical world originating in India...keep it to yourself. Don't distort history by claiming Nepal has no deeper connection to India or was never part of it.

If I said China dominated India for over 5k years, are you going to believe me too? I'm pretty sure India media wouldn't dare to quote what I said LMAO.

 

[Nilgiri]

If I said China dominated India for over 5k years, are you going to believe me too? I'm pretty sure India media wouldn't dare to quote what I said LMAO.

First become someone who matters and then we will consider it.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Sure it was, under the Mauryan and Gupta empires...just to name 2. Many other smaller Indian kingdoms (Pala, Magadha, Kosala and so on) have had the territory of what we call Nepal under their control. Nepal itself is traditionally considered an Indian kingdom.

So you have basically supported my statement that Nepal was never a part of India. None of those things you mentioned were India, which was a much later creation.

If you are bitter about the flocking of your people to Buddhism for many years which is a branch of the greater Dharmic philosophical world originating in India...keep it to yourself. Don't distort history by claiming Nepal has no deeper connection to India or was never part of it....and that thus Buddhism is not based firmly in the Indian cultural sphere.

I think Buddhism is awesome.

And I have no problem with one of the three major Chinese religions having come from Nepal, why would I? Most of the world follows religion that came from the Middle East. At least Nepal is a lot closer, and a great tourist destination as well.

Laughing at Hu Shih as well?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Shih

Do you know why his name is Romanized as "Shih"? Because he is from the ROC, not the PRC.

 

[sweetgrape]

Laughing at Hu Shih as well?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Shih

Hmmm I wonder what magnitudes more he has achieved in real life compared to some fake troll laugh on an internet forum.

How you get he is laughing at Hu? Hu is just a literate, that's mean he is faultless? in fact he is not, that's just his comprehension, can represent whole China, even China literati?

I don't deny that there are cultural influence on China, but say dominating, hehe, that's a joke, just can delude your indian self, that's thing what you always like, first you should know what's China Culture.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

First become someone who matters and then we will consider it.

I'm careless and have no need you or India media to consider what I said because I speak the true

 

[Nilgiri]

So you have basically supported my statement that Nepal was never a part of India. None of those things you mentioned were India, which was a much later creation.

Thats like saying all the various empires preceding the last Qing dynasty were not China either....so modern China's claims to the cultures, inventions and lineage of those are forfeit.

And I have no problem with one of the three major Chinese religions having come from Nepal, why would I? Most of the world follows religion that came from the Middle East. At least Nepal is a lot closer, and a great tourist destination as well

So Nepal has some magical unbroken connection to the Nepal of Buddha...but India has no connection to its empires and kingdoms that have included Nepal.

Keep digging that hole.

What do you think Buddha's father (the king) or Buddha himself would have said if you walk up to him and said...are you from Nepal? What would they have said if you said India (Bharat)? They would have laughed/been confused at the former...and wholeheartedly accepted the latter.

Do you know anything of the influence of the names of the land mentioned in the Vedas and other literatures that were standard reading for the elite at the time of the Buddha?

Do you even know how the word Nepal was formed and what its roots are and what they mean and what language they are from....and where that particular syntax originated and when?

Don't stray into areas you know nothing about. You will get schooled badly.

Do you know why his name is Romanized as "Shih"? Because he is from the ROC, not the PRC.

So you admit ROC is not part of China.

Thanks.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Thats like saying all the various empires preceding the last Qing dynasty were not China either....so modern China's claims to the cultures, inventions and lineage of those are forfeit.



So Nepal has some magical unbroken connection to the Nepal of Buddha...but India has no connection to its empires and kingdoms that have included Nepal.

Keep digging that hole.

What do you think Buddha's father (the king) or Buddha himself would have said if you walk up to him and said...are you from Nepal? What would they have said if you said India (Bharat)? They would have laughed/been confused at the former...and wholeheartedly accepted the latter.

Do you know anything of the influence of the names of the land mentioned in the Vedas and other literatures that were standard reading for the elite at the time of the Buddha?

Do you even know how the word Nepal was formed and what its roots are and what they mean and what language they are from....and where that particular syntax originated and when?

Don't stray into areas you know nothing about. You will get schooled badly.




So you admit ROC is not part of China.

Thanks.

That's a lot of hilarious BS.

All I said is that the Buddha is from Nepal. Which is a fact, everyone knows this.

Which was never a part of India, or even British India.

India is a very recent creation, created when the British united the hundreds of independent kingdoms in the subcontinent. Why do you think all of India's borders are named after white British people like Henry MacMahon, why India itself is named after a river in British India (today in Pakistan), and why India's de facto link language, the language of the legal system and of the government is English?

Unless you think "Henry MacMahon" is an Indian name of course. It was the British who created India and all of its borders, that's why they are named after them.

 

[Nilgiri]

How you get he is laughing at Hu? Hu is just a literate, that's mean he is faultless? in fact he is not, that's just his comprehension, can represent whole China, even China literati?

I don't deny that there are cultural influence on China, but say dominating, hehe, that's a joke, just can delude your indian self, that's thing what you always like, first you should know what's China Culture.

He was laughing at the exact verbatim used by the Minister that was originally quoted by Hu Shih. If he laughs at only one, he is a hypocrite.

As for the nuances of what the culture is today in any part of the world, that is a debate for another thread. The whole point is Buddhism played a huge role in Chinese history for 2000 years, and Buddhism is undeniably from India. Trying to poke political holes in what the definition of India is now and what it was at the time of Buddha opens up a can of worms that will backfire on you and anyone else.

I'm careless and have no need you or India media to consider what I said because I speak the true

Good that you can convince yourself and shut your ears and eyes to the response. Don't expect any meaningful debate or engagement....since you are just a troll then.

That's a lot of hilarious BS.

All I said is that the Buddha is from Nepal. Which is a fact, everyone knows this.

Which was never a part of India, or even British India.

India is a very recent creation, created when the British united the hundreds of independent kingdoms in the subcontinent. Why do you think all of India's borders are named after white people like Henry MacMahon, why India itself is named after a river in British India (today in Pakistan), and why India's de facto link language, the language of the legal system and of the government is English?

Since language means so much to you as proof of countryhood, you're telling me if I go to Nepal and speak to them in Hindi they wont understand me?

Have you listened to the Mantras that Buddhist monks chant in China and Japan? What language are they in?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

How you get he is laughing at Hu? Hu is just a literate, that's mean he is faultless? in fact he is not, that's just his comprehension, can represent whole China, even China literati?

I don't deny that there are cultural influence on China, but say dominating, hehe, that's a joke, just can delude your indian self, that's thing what you always like, first you should know what's China Culture.

well said man, this is pretty hilarious from Indian official (Rajnath Singh) to quote a man that is not represent China but because what he said please Indians, I'm pretty sure that this Indian official don't even what "dominated" mean beside been dominated.