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https://www.dawn.com/news/1499969/promises-broken-and-kept

Pervez HoodbhoyAugust 17, 2019



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The writer teaches physics in Lahore and Islamabad.
NO Indian prime minister could have stated his promise to Kashmiris more clearly, eloquently and unequivocally: “We do not want to win people against their will and with the help of armed force; and, if the people of Jammu and Kashmir State wish to part company with us, they can go their way and we shall go ours. We want no forced marriages, no forced unions” (Jawaharlal Nehru, Aug 7, 1952).

This solemn commitment was soon broken but not all was lost. Articles 370 and 35-A of the Indian constitution granted India-held Kashmir an autonomous status within the Indian union. Howsoever unsatisfactory and diluted by subsequent governments, in principle, they provided some measure of self-rule. But last week, almost exactly 67 years later, the remaining bits were blasted away when the Modi government revoked these articles.

In a world increasingly tolerant of majoritarian diktat, no global outcry followed. Awed by India’s economic might and growing political clout, the OIC limited itself to the “curtailment of religious freedoms of Kashmiri Muslims”. China took the opportunity to emphasise its own dispute over Aksai-Chin, stopping well short of condemning India. Most disappointingly, for all the red carpets, rose showers, and personal chauffeuring by Prime Minister Khan, MBS of Saudi Arabia kept his royal mouth tightly shut. The UAE went with India.

Friendless, and with the euphoric spurt from Trump’s off-the-cuff mediation offer gone in a puff of smoke, Pakistan says it will still continue to fight back. Our leaders say that to do nothing would violate our 70-year-old commitment to the people of Kashmir to whom we promised political, moral, and diplomatic (PMD) support. Indeed, for 70 years Pakistan has copiously supplied PMD support — followed by support that went well beyond PMD. The latter has come back to haunt; the sword of FATF hangs in full view. To let it fall invites economic catastrophe; to work around it risks perils and pitfalls.

Let’s examine the options available to Pakistan.

Building upon BBC reports and the harrowing news leaking out of Kashmir, Pakistan could focus upon the tribulations of an occupied population. More PMD stuff is easily doable — fly Pakistani and Kashmiri flags together on national days in Pakistan and its overseas embassies; instead of the annual Kashmir Day (Feb 5) make total national shutdowns biannual or perhaps even monthly; bring still more energetic speakers like Zaid Hamid on to TV screens; start morning school assemblies with pledges to liberate Kashmir; etc.

What then? Jacking up public fervour takes little. But as expectations rise, so will the clamour to do more. This shall challenge the Pakistani state, and appeal to discordant voices within the establishment. Public rumblings against the no-war line taken by Prime Minister Khan and Foreign Minister Qureshi — who presumably took it after GHQ nodded its approval — are already audible. There is talk of betrayal.

This is an open vulnerability awaiting exploitation by a desperate opposition that is being hounded to the ground by Khan. Unprincipled politicians could make passionate appeals to a charged public that thinks war with India just means downing a few more Bisons and capturing more Abhinandans. The establishment’s inaction will seem inexplicable. Just as Musharraf was pilloried after 9/11 for being an American stooge and then targeted by suicide attacks, Khan and company could be held as sellouts to the IMF for unduly harassing Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar.

This challenge can only increase in severity in the months ahead. Kashmiris, whether aided or unaided by Pakistan, are bound to react against yet more brutalisation. More Pakistani flags will appear in protest demonstrations but Modi has taken the gamble of his life and doesn’t care. He will simply lay the blame for another Pulwama on Pakistan’s doorstep. How clean and limited the subsequent Indian surgical strike will be — and similarly for the expected counterstrike by Pakistan — one cannot predict.

On the diplomatic front, Pakistan could engage pricey PR firms, send swarms of diplomats abroad, and require its foreign minister to hop non-stop from one capital to the next. Prime Minister Khan, in his speech before the Azad Kashmir Assembly, promised to become Kashmir’s ambassador to the world. He is trying his best. One doesn’t know if Trump will pick up the phone, but so far Khan’s calls to Boris Johnson, Mohammad bin Sultan, and Tayyip Erdogan have produced plain vanilla stuff. It’s not his fault — Nawaz Sharif too had tried and then let his failure eventually dribble through ‘Dawn leaks’.

On the nuclear side, there’s not much to be done. Adding a few more warheads, SLBMs, TNWs, cruise missiles, or increasing ranges and accuracies will have zero effect upon Kashmir. Many years ago, Pakistan and India crossed the point where they could mutually obliterate each other. This, for better or worse, means that the LoC has been frozen. Apart from occasional fiery threats from second-tier political leaders, both countries carefully avoided mention of nuclear weapons after Pulwama. This is very different from the shrillness during India-Pakistan crises in 2002 (Parakaram), 1999 (Kargil), May 1990, and possibly 1987 (Brasstacks).

Pakistan has fulfilled its PMD commitments to the people of Kashmir and done every bit it could. Now it must repair the broken commitments made earlier to the people of Pakistan. The country is in bad shape. It is financially desperate; science and technology-wise it stands nowhere; the largely unskilled workforce is unequipped for a modern economy; population rise is out of control; education is of abysmal quality and access to it is small; work ethics are poor and the citizenry prone to violent behaviour. It has been outstripped by Bangladesh which now enjoys a higher GNP per capita, has much greater foreign exchange reserves, a tight lid on population growth, and offers a much wider net of social services.

The solemn commitments made to the people of Pakistan by every subsequent political leader since Mohammad Ali Jinnah must finally be taken seriously. Although the window is narrowing, it can still be done. The condition: prioritise social welfare and economic development. All else must perforce take care of itself — we come first, everyone else comes second.

Pakistan has kept its commitments to Kashmiris; now it must fulfil promises made to its own citizens.


The writer teaches physics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, August 17th, 2019
 
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he is not completely wrong..today kashmir would have been free had we strong economy..had we been next korea..instead we saw motorways but ignored primary education
I'm afraid I have to argue with this point. Korea and Pakistan is highly educated doctors and engineers that are leaving the country and working in other countries, doing what? Manual labour, labour that is the considered the lowest form of work in those countries.

The problem is not education, they problem is the state of mind, cultural issues and plain simply, a lack of a proper government that doesnt get its wages from Pakistanis enemies. To prove my point further, look at Pakistan's economy when it had proper government. The government came in the forms of both democracy and military rule, but they had one thing in common and that was allegiance to the state of Pakistan.

There is a lack of jobs not education. Now I'm not teying to say education isnt important, ofcourse it is. Even Islam tells us to educate ourselves, but the major factor when it comes to the economy is haheing he right type of leadership and dynamic forms of creating revenue
 
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he is not completely wrong..today kashmir would have been free had we strong economy..had we been next korea..instead we saw motorways but ignored primary education

This article stinks to the core.

Basically he's saying that there's nothing more to do for Kashmir.

This scum is Aman Ki ASHA pusher.
 
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I'm afraid I have to argue with this point. Korea and Pakistan is highly educated doctors and engineers that are leaving the country and working in other countries, doing what? Manual labour, labour that is the considered the lowest form of work in those countries.

The problem is not education, they problem is the state of mind, cultural issues and plain simply, a lack of a proper government that doesnt get its wages from Pakistanis enemies.
which doctor is leaving and doing manual labour?
and why doctors are leaving..its due to many reasons inculidng lack of development of medicine which is linked to economical development of country

at basic..the economy is fueled by consumption and activity..no country can develop if its primary education level isnt 90% why because banks cant do anything, business cant flourish, money cant interchange hand, in essence civilization doesn't develop ....education is utmost important..
our primary education is at 50% and has decreased in the last 10 years..a whole generation is out of school killing hopes for development even in next few decades
 
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which doctor is leaving and doing manual labour?
and why doctors are leaving..its due to many reasons inculidng lack of development of medicine which is linked to economical development of country

at basic..the economy is fueled by consumption and activity..no country can develop if its primary education level isnt 90% why because banks cant do anything, business cant flourish, money cant interchange hand, in essence civilization doesn't develop ....education is utmost important..
our primary education is at 50% and has decreased in the last 10 years..a whole generation is out of school killing hopes for development even in next few decades
Like I said lack of JOBS. You can get the highest degrees that there are but when you cant find work then you will Starve to death.

I have many ideas (like most people that are not part of the incompetent, elected governments) that will fix the culture issues when it comes to the economy and the first one is, convenience stores. These stores provide many people a job and a stepping stone for their way up the chain. Stores like 7-11 will provide everyone the opportunity to earn money. For jobs like that you womt even need complex education. This will also get rid of the cultural taboos regarding work, and what jobs should be done and what shouldn't be.

The second has to be minimum wage, this needs to be imposed very strictly and anyone that opposes it will be punished.
 
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So, Mr. Hoodhboy wants Pakistan to turn a blind eye to the sufferings of Kashmiris and mind it's own business hoping that Hindutva terrorists would stop at that and let us live in peace ???. These fuking so-called liberals are pro-India hypocrites and are rabidly anti-Islam to the core. Someone should tell this Munafiq that Kashmir is PaKistan's very own business, Kashmiris are not someone else who come second, and that it's a humanitarian issue. If we do not stand up to Hindutva fascism and aggression today, there will be no Pakistan tomorrow .
 
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he is not completely wrong..today kashmir would have been free had we strong economy..had we been next korea..instead we saw motorways but ignored primary education

I'm afraid I have to argue with this point. Korea and Pakistan is highly educated doctors and engineers that are leaving the country and working in other countries, doing what? Manual labour, labour that is the considered the lowest form of work in those countries.

The problem is not education, they problem is the state of mind, cultural issues and plain simply, a lack of a proper government that doesnt get its wages from Pakistanis enemies. To prove my point further, look at Pakistan's economy when it had proper government. The government came in the forms of both democracy and military rule, but they had one thing in common and that was allegiance to the state of Pakistan.

There is a lack of jobs not education. Now I'm not teying to say education isnt important, ofcourse it is. Even Islam tells us to educate ourselves, but the major factor when it comes to the economy is haheing he right type of leadership and dynamic forms of creating revenue

Pakistan badly need to INVEST HEAVILY in its EDUCATION SECTOR... BUDGETING is an art of balancing... and Pakistani planners are failed in that field...
Just imagine the kind of embarrassment you can feel as a nation while reading this...

https://www.dawn.com/news/1498520

Uttar Pradesh and Bihar have faced the same embarrassment AS A STATE... when class 5th students were checking the exam papers of graduates and post graduates in UP... and cheating videos were viral during exams in Bihar...
 
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He is the same man who said that Pakistan should give up their nukes to u.s and end nuclear program

And I thought that people like... Burkha Dutt, Mani, Shobha De, Communist and SCAMGRESS gang... are only found in India...
 
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Pakistan badly need to INVEST HEAVILY in its EDUCATION SECTOR... BUDGETING is an art of balancing... and Pakistani planners are failed in that field...
Just imagine the kind of embarrassment you can feel as a nation while reading this...

https://www.dawn.com/news/1498520

Uttar Pradesh and Bihar have faced the same embarrassment AS A STATE... when class 5th students were checking the exam papers of graduates and post graduates in UP... and cheating videos were viral during exams in Bihar...
None of your business Indian, in all respect. Fuk off
 
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Like I said lack of JOBS. You can get the highest degrees that there are but when you cant find work then you will Starve to death.

I have many ideas (like most people that are not part of the incompetent, elected governments) that will fix the culture issues when it comes to the economy and the first one is, convenience stores. These stores provide many people a job and a stepping stone for their way up the chain. Stores like 7-11 will provide everyone the opportunity to earn money. For jobs like that you womt even need complex education. This will also get rid of the cultural taboos regarding work, and what jobs should be done and what shouldn't be.

The second has to be minimum wage, this needs to be imposed very strictly and anyone that opposes it will be punished.
sir, first fix the primary education..if 60% population is uneducated no investment will come, no saving will happen, 10% of elite educated people will not find any jobs if the rest of population is uneducated

to summarize ask any industrialist whats the problem, he will tell you lack of equity/money, why because of our saving very low at just 8%, why because there is no middle class, why because there is no primary education, so even if the middle class has money its not in banking sector
 
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sir, first fix the primary education..if 60% population is uneducated no investment will come, no saving will happen, 10% of elite educated people will not find any jobs if the rest of population is uneducated

to summarize ask any industrialist whats the problem, he will tell you lack of equity/money, why because of our saving very low at just 8%, why because there is no middle class, why because there is no primary education, so even if the middle class has money its not in banking sector
Ya the whole system is running the same way as it was in the 1300s. Whole system need a revamp, our industrial output doesnt even match the Europeans in the 1800s let alone 21st century.
 
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Ya the whole system is running the same way as it was in the 1300s. Whole system need a revamp, our industrial output doesnt even match the Europeans in the 1800s let alone 21st century.
first you need to revamp primary education just like chinese and koreans did it in 1980s..put every child ins choll BY FORCE..this isnt a money issue
second..make business easy and digitize everything
third invest in health sector, privatize it, introduce health insurance(free for poor, with premium for middle class, with high premiums for higher class, not free health as we cant afford it yet)
 
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