We asked a Military expert if all the worlds armies could conquer the UK.

[Falcon29]

We begged Palestine to join WW2?


Yes, I do know but not in great detail.

America saved you Britain's butt, and rebuilt the nation.

 

[EDLdefence]

America saved you Britain's butt, and rebuilt the nation.

Just so everyone seeing this can view the facts:
The National WWII Museum | New Orleans: Learn: For Students: WWII History: America Goes to War
Why is stateless Arab so mad? Israeli *** kicking must have been extra brutal today!

 

[Hashshāshīn]

Is that why you begged us to get involved in WW2?

When it suits you you become Palestinian and when it doesn't you become American. Stick to one.

OT, yes, no one apart from the US and maybe Russia can conquer UK.

 

[Falcon29]

Just so everyone seeing this can view the facts:
The National WWII Museum | New Orleans: Learn: For Students: WWII History: America Goes to War
Why is stateless Arab so mad? Israeli *** kicking must have been extra brutal today!

Why don't you just go ahead and preach about your military successes, in less than a year of war which you started against Germany you started begging for American help.

When it suits you you become Palestinian and when it doesn't you become American. Stick to one.

I'm an American Palestinian, I'm sticking to one and there's nothing complicated about it stupido.

 

[EDLdefence]

Why don't you just go ahead and preach about your military successes, in less than a year of war which you started against Germany you started begging for American help.



I'm an American Palestinian, I'm sticking to one and there's nothing complicated about it stupido.

Palestinian American LOL. You should change that to Israeli American.

When it suits you you become Palestinian and when it doesn't you become American. Stick to one.

OT, yes, no one apart from the US and maybe Russia can conquer UK.

It depends, I think a full NATO assault excluding USA could possibly succeed.

 

[KingMamba]

We Asked a Military Expert How to Conquer the UK | VICE United Kingdom

Back in October, I asked a military expert if a combined Rest-of-the-World army could conquer the United States of America. It was a question that sprung from nothing other than curiosity but a lot of patriotic Yanks seemed to assume that I was genuinely putting in calls to top international generals to "see if this thing is doable". I was met with a flood of abuse, most of it outlining the physical punishment I could expect to receive if I ever set foot in Podunk, Idaho or Halliburton, Texas. My favourite was a Twitter account called ButthurtBrit, which was set up just to abuse me. Their best tweet was:

Good work, lads! The thing is, they were all entirely correct – I really was hoping to get a bunch of countries together so that we could attempt to conquer the United States. But once I found out how awesome America’s military might is (clue: very awesome), I began to feel even more depressed about being British than I usually do.

So, with a century of British military decline looming over me, I got in touch with Ian Keddie, IHS Jane's Western Europe Armed Forces Analyst, to ask if there was any other country in the world that couldn’t bomb Britain back to the Stone Age.

VICE: Right, let’s find out how rubbish Britain is at the fighting these days. What is the UK's nuclear capability like and how could it be disarmed?
Ian Keddie: The UK has operated a continuous at sea nuclear deterrent since 1968, its sole nuclear weapon since the retirement of the UK’s tactical weapons in 1998. This is currently a Vanguard-class submarine armed with up to 16 Trident ballistic missiles, each capable of carrying up to 12 100-kiloton warheads.

How much is 100 kilotons?
Well Little Boy, the weapon used on Hiroshima, was a 16-kiloton weapon. In reality though, we are limited to carrying up to 40 warheads between 8 missiles.

That still sounds like quite a lot. Could we just fire them whenever we want?
The UK relies on US technology to maintain and build the missiles and warheads but the UK can still choose if, when, or where to fire them. This means that to disable the UK’s weapons, the US could cut off support for them but it would take at least a couple of decades for that to completely erode. Your other alternative would be to try to destroy the submarines that carry the missiles, although they are virtually undetectable once at sea and in deep water, hence why two British and French SSBNs (Ballistic Missile Submarines) collided in 2009.

You could attack the three boats that aren’t at sea and are under maintenance in HMNB Clyde, or Faslane. You'd need the capability to launch a cruise missile or penetrate the UK’s air defence with your jets. Maybe Special Forces could manage this but there are several hundred Royal Marines based at Faslane tasked “to provide military support to undertake final denial of access to nuclear weapons”.

Alright. What if someone did manage to defeat 700 desperate marines?
Even with the other three boats disabled you could face retaliation from the remaining submarine while it's hidden for a few months. In order to completely remove the British deterrent you'd need to therefore find and destroy the SSBN currently on patrol, meaning you have a better anti-submarine capability than Cold War Russia, and simultaneously carry out the most audacious surprise attack since Pearl Harbour.

Okay, that’s harder than I thought, but doable. Where would you begin an invasion of Britain? Are there any military bases overseas that are worth taking out?
If we take the nuclear deterrent out of the question and you have a military with the capability to reach and invade the UK, you still need to overcome some serious hurdles. Initially, your problem will be gaining air superiority, to do this you would need to defeat a force of over 200 combat aircraft and unless you are the USA you’ve got to base most of your own aircraft relatively close to the British Isles until you can capture airfields of your own. Attacking from the North would let you base yourself in Iceland, Norway, or the Faroe Isles. From there, you might be able to overcome the Tornados and Typhoons at RAF Lossiemouth and RAF Leuchars to effectively gain control over most of Scotland.

Wouldn't Scotland put up a fight?
Scotland is much less populated than England. This would reduce the threat to the invading forces and the burden of controlling the local population. It would give the UK time to regroup and prepare a counterattack with most of its forces intact but with the momentum on your side and a foothold in the country, you could reinforce your own position at the numerous airfields in Scotland in order to make a push South. The only place to consider attacking abroad would be Gibraltar but only if you needed to use the Mediterranean for your own ship movement...

I guess a Falklands detour wouldn’t make sense either, unless you’re Argentine. Britannia used to rule the waves, but I get the feeling she doesn't any more. How easy would it be to destroy the British navy?
Today, the Royal Navy is in the middle of a considerable transformation and is certainly a lot smaller than it used to be. Versus another navy, the biggest weakness it would have at the moment would be the lack of an aircraft carrier, a problem the UK will have to face until at least 2020 when both the ship and new F-35 jets are operational. The navy still has 13 frigates, six destroyers and seven nuclear attack submarines. The destroyers are designed for air defence and are amongst the most advanced in the world… To defeat the Royal Navy you would need to engage it with an equally advanced navy or with a considerably larger force, something not a great deal of countries have. Those that do could not realistically deploy a significant number or ships halfway around the world.

Who are we talking about here?
Britain’s geography has always been the country’s biggest advantage and is still a significant hurdle in the 21st century. It means that there will always be a need to gain air and sea superiority before movement of any invasion force can take place. The requirements for carrying out a successful invasion are pretty substantial, which makes the list of realistic threats to Britain quite small. The bigger military powers are an obvious contender to begin with; the USA and Russia have certainly got the manpower and capability to carry it out but China, for example, doesn’t yet have a global reach and couldn’t support enough troops and aircraft that far from home to make it viable without support. Britain’s biggest defence is ultimately the alliances it is part of…

This is important because, really, old wounds never heal: Could France successfully invade the UK?
France is extremely comparable to the UK in terms of capability; the militaries have similar numbers of troops, tanks, ships and aircraft. In this instance, I would say that the advantage is with the defender; an amphibious assault is extremely difficult to pull off without massive casualties and jets would face a combined threat of enemy aircraft and surface-to-air weapons, so it's unlikely they could muster the numbers needed to pull this off without leaving France completely undefended.

Take that, cheese-eating surrender monkeys! How much help would Britain need in order to defend itself from a military superpower like the US?
If we don’t factor in the nuclear deterrent then the UK would need a huge amount of support to tackle the US. America could deploy several of their aircraft carriers to deliver over 100 F-18s each. If they capture any airfields within range of Britain they could base huge numbers of planes there extremely quickly and the US Air Force has strategic bombers that could easily reach across the Atlantic. The entire EU combined might have a fighting chance if there was a cohesive response but the US military would certainly be able to act together more efficiently. The economies of the USA versus the EU are almost matched in terms of size so it is an interesting scenario to consider. The military capability of the US is on a scale unlike anyone else, Russia and China have the next two largest air forces but they have half the number of combat aircraft that America does.

Okay, time for a classic British fallback: the past. Let's wind the clock back to the glory days of empire, when an Englishman could get off the boat in Bombay and find a G&T waiting for him at the local gentlemen's club. Could the might of the British Empire in its heyday compete with the US today?
Again, even with the assets of all Commonwealth countries, the combined militaries would struggle to equal the USA. The disposition of the countries would make it a different challenge compared with the European scenario: Canada would be "annexed" in a matter of days, effectively making North America a fortress. From there, the US Navy could cut off Australia and New Zealand with relative ease, two or three Nimitz-class aircraft carriers could field enough aircraft to defeat their air force and remove them from the war, no invasion necessary. India would be a significant challenge, as would Pakistan and the UK, especially the submarine fleets of the three countries if the US decided to invade by sea. But the initiative would probably be with the USA as their military has the organisation and logistical skills to carry this out whilst the existing countries would be too disjointed to put up a cooperative response.

If your “New British Commonwealth” – shall we say NBC for short? – was administered well by those gin-sipping bureaucrats and the military was a single cohesive entity then it would be a close thing. The NBC would be the world’s second superpower and the second largest economy, extensively nuclear armed and with a population in excess of 2.2 billion across 53 states. The military of an NBC would certainly rival the USA and would probably have an even larger navy in order to keep all of those colonies in check. Individually, though, none of these countries would pose a real threat to the US outside of their nuclear arsenals.

I’m most disappointed in Canada; I really thought the Mounties would give us the edge. Okay, let's say an invading army has taken the UK from us. Where should we hide out and wage guerrilla war?
With the dust settled and the bulk of the military defeated, an occupying army has taken over mainland Britain. Resistance groups would be most successful by operating in the remote parts of the country or remaining in the most urban areas. It’s likely that an invading force would want to leave London as intact as possible because it features the bulk of the administrative and economic centres of the country. So carrying out an insurgency inside the capital would be pretty effective and gives you a huge, and diverse, population to hide amongst. Attacks on targets of opportunity or infrastructure could cause serious disruption at a small cost to the guerrillas.

The alternative would be to head away from the population centres. Whilst the UK as a whole is pretty densely populated, Scotland is actually incredibly sparse, especially away from the central belt. From a remote base in the Highlands it would be possible to build up a store of weapons, possibly smuggled in from mainland Europe or Ireland, and still be within striking distance for attacks on enemy forces. It depends on your ultimate aim but the general concept would be to make it too costly for the invader either politically or economically. Why are they holding the country; is it for resources, territory, strategic location, or ideological reasons? A base in the Highlands could give you an opportunity to attack the North Sea oil facilities, a key resource. Attacking fresh water reservoirs would be a major blow to an occupier’s logistics and power generation facilities would also be a suitable target.

Great, through a combination of Braveheart-style rural ambushes and post-apocalyptic urban sabotage, the spirit of the Britons will live on. Thank you Ian, this has been less depressing than I imagined.

All speculation is moot if UK invokes NATO defense article. Honestly as of right now there are only two countries that British military should be planning to try and defend against namely Russia and US. I think they are wise enough to know as much.

 

[EDLdefence]

All speculation is moot if UK invokes NATO defense article. Honestly as of right now there are only two countries that British military should be planning to try and defend against namely Russia and US. I think they are wise enough to know as much.

A large proportion of British military equipment is American in origin, if such a scenario arises that USA plans to invade then this equipment could be shut off. However as mentioned in the article it could take quite a while. I think USA will hold all the cards in whatever scenario.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

You're sick man, everybody you don't like is a terrorist except the nation you live in which is responsible for the most violence ever inflicted on the world in the past century. You guys go kill two thousand civilians in a couple days in Somalia and they're the terrorists, we bomb a sovereign nation with the most lethal and destructive weapons murdering over a million civilians and they remain the terrorists for defending their land. You have an odd way of thinking, of course if a nation bombed the US back to the stone age you'd only then realize how evil of a person you are. This is the problem with westerners, they haven't experienced anything near the violence and oppression they've inflicted on the other half of the world. Only when they do will they regret their arrogance.

"I'm an American"

 

[KingMamba]

A large proportion of British military equipment is American in origin, if such a scenario arises that USA plans to invade then this equipment could be shut off. However as mentioned in the article it could take quite a while. I think USA will hold all the cards in whatever scenario.

True which is why I am of the opinion that all military planners should think worst case scenario as they prepare for the future, it is the best option to be ready for anything.

 

[Falcon29]

Palestinian American LOL. You should change that to Israeli American.


It depends, I think a full NATO assault excluding USA could possibly succeed.

Ahh, that's enough, that was some good fun mate.

 

[armchairPrivate]

To conquer UK, the stooge of the US is very easy. Just airdrop barrels of detergents and cleansers.

Over half of us have abandoned the spring clean | Mail Online

Grubby Britain: Over half of us have abandoned the spring clean - and one in ten only go over homes from top to bottom when the mother-in-law visits

• Less than half of adults now do a ‘spring clean’ each year

• A third say are too busy and 41% clean each week instead

• One in 20 admitted they’ve NEVER had a big clear out of their home

• Over 1 in 10 only clean when mother-in-law visits

 

[Hashshāshīn]

True which is why I am of the opinion that all military planners should think worst case scenario as they prepare for the future, it is the best option to be ready for anything.

There is no way Britain can withstand an attack by the US. Russia can be repelled, but US, no way.

 

[EDLdefence]

To conquer UK, the stooge of the US is very easy. Just airdrop barrels of detergents and cleansers.

Over half of us have abandoned the spring clean | Mail Online

Grubby Britain: Over half of us have abandoned the spring clean - and one in ten only go over homes from top to bottom when the mother-in-law visits

• Less than half of adults now do a ‘spring clean’ each year

• A third say are too busy and 41% clean each week instead

• One in 20 admitted they’ve NEVER had a big clear out of their home

• Over 1 in 10 only clean when mother-in-law visits

I'm not sure what to make of this.

 

[livingdead]

There is no way Britain can withstand an attack by the US. Russia can be repelled, but US, no way.

if you remove nuclear factor, russia can overpower UK simply because they have numbers. USA is ofcourse at different level.

 

[nangyale]

Yes, I do know but not in great detail.

Well, if you know, then you will also know that Britain first went to India as traders and investors.
The same way Indian and Chinese are buying up companies and investing in Britain. Now, I am not saying they are doing anything suspicious but just speculating.
So lets assume if India decided to colonise Britain, what other assets they will need apart from the ones they are currently in possession of?