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Was India loss to England deliberate?

England scores 25 runs between 28th and 37th over.. no boundaries..

Manrekar said that Bairstow and England have stopped scoring runs...

was England fixing the game too?
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Both side tried to make it look not fixed but it was fixed and was very conspicuous. It is like for natural look with makeup, you need a lot more makeup.

India beat Pakistan by 31 runs...

most Indians were looking for an England win to oust Pakistan...some YouTube comments.

Gaurav Sharma3 hours ago (edited)
I hope india lose this match.. so Pakistan won't qualify for the semis. Boys played well

Ashok Ley47 minutes ago
Haar kar jeetne wale ko baazigar kehte hai - Team India



secular citizen6 hours ago
India ko har dena sahiye . Pakistan ko bahar karna hey



Subho Chowdhury4 hours ago
I'm indian but I want India to loose today. #pkmb


rahul sharma4 hours ago
Pakistan bye bye Iindia nai jetega aajj ...


Lucky Pradhan3 minutes ago
India beat pak by 31 runs #ind_vs_eng_worldcup19
Lanat in par...inshaAllah Pakistan will qualify and I wish whoever team plays against Bhindia, it hands them their asses.
 
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it is a CIA - Mossad plan ..... to remove the highly influential pakistani cricket team from saving the world.

dhoni is actually an agent for RAW.....his keeping gloves were the secret code .....

Operation "Sarfaraz Yawn" is a GO ...i repeat....Operation "Sarafaraz Yawn" is a go

Stupid yank even highly influencial Indian commentator like Saurav Ganguly was saying that India deliberately did not try to win this match, you cannot have 5 wickets remaining and still loose the match with a mere 30 odd runs remaining.

They made sure they made it a close enough chase so that they still had a positive overall net run rate even after the loss.
 
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“I am completely baffled with this Indian batting display. They aren’t even fighting” Nasser Hussain

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"You cannot be chasing 338 to win and still have 5 wickets in hand." - Sourav Ganguly

"I don't have an explanation for this. Will there be questions asked in the dressing room, just what were you doing out there?" - Sourav Ganguly

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Dushman dushman hota hai, dusman sai umeed lagana bawaqoofi hai.
I doubt if this has anything to do with kicking Pakistan out. Indian team is all round good enough to win this tournament.
the top 2 or 3 teams in the table are well placed and well deserved without any fluke.
whether Indian team relaxed too much its possible. but I doubt they lost for a deliberate reason

The Indian team didn't really put up a fight or play the game with passion like they do.

Either way now, our hopes lie on New Zealand and our own upcoming match.
just pray that this pathetic Pakistani team doesnt drop its pants in front of Bangladeshis
its very much capable of doing that though
 
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why are we Pakistani's sad ? do we have to go into semi finals like that we have to depend on this team win or that teams losing the match ? esa qualify kerne se behter hai ke naa karen .. Pakistan should have played better from the start ..
Correct and well said stop looking for handouts, earn and fight for it.
 
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How we decide deserving
Pakistan beat England while England beat India so who is deserving in three?
we dont decide , the points table is the decider, and we all have to accept the top 4 teams once all matches are played
 
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we dont decide , the points table is the decider, and we all have to accept the top 4 teams once all matches are played
and point table is not finalised yet but If NZ beat England and Pakistan beat Bangldesh then should people say that Pakistan not deserving ?
 
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and point table is not finalised yet but If NZ beat England and Pakistan beat Bangldesh then should people say that Pakistan not deserving ?
Thats why I said "once all matches are played" and yes if they get to top 4 then of course they deserve it, who is disputing that?
 
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Thats why I said "once all matches are played" and yes if they get to top 4 then of course they deserve it, who is disputing that?
The post I quoted said that Pakistan dont deserve to be in semi and my post which you quoted was for her
 
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Can someone tell me that what if Pakistan beat Bangladesh and England looses from NZ?

Would Pakistan qualify?
 
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Exposing truth is every mans right in the world, and this match was fixed, destroyed the ICC Cricket Worldcup integrity, first India vs Afghanistan game was dodgy and now confirmed India vs England is match fixed :


Can someone tell me that what if Pakistan beat Bangladesh and England looses from NZ?

Would Pakistan qualify?


Yup 100% qualify since Pak will have 11 points and Eng on 10 points and Bang will be on 7 or 9 points.
 
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I'm going to clarify this for all of you now that I've observed as much information and footage as possible.... YES India lost deliberately while preserving run rate, however it was not "wrong" for them to do so. I am sure Pak would do the same in such a position. Such scenarios frequently arise in group stages, in football also, recently in world cup when England's route to the semi final was made easier by not beating Belgium in their final group game. It is unsportsmanlike but inevitable due to the format. If a team can engineer the elimination of a team they don't wanna face for WHATEVER reason, they will do so.

Now India probably wish to avoid Aus,but they would probably have avoided Aus whether they won or lost today. Therefore the only reason for a deliberate loss today is to help eliminate Pak, probably less out of fear and more out of their typical Pak hatred. Again though, any team can engineer group stage outcomes, whatever their underlying motive may be.

Now, one absolutely correct and right criticism of THIS world cup - unlike other examples of group outcome engineering in football or cricket - is that this privilege has ONLY been extended to India by virtue of the fixture list. They have had this advantage through the tournament and this is damming and corrupt. Engineering group stage outcome is normal gamesmanship the world over, but India has made a sham of this WC by being the only team able to do so.

As much as I would hate it if India did lose the match on purpose..I find it a very cheap tactic if true...one thing has to be noted..

The reason why India CAN afford to lose a match on purpose is because India has put itself in a position of drivers seat. India played every oppoonent and will play every opponent, no matter what. So the playing field is level....India isn’t getting any freebies here. If the strategy is to lose to get a favorable placement on the table, that’s only possible because India has won enough games to choose its own destiny.

I also want to clarify that this has nothing to do with Pakistan, but more to do with playing the weaker of the two likely opponents, England or NZ. India would want to play NZ over Eng or Aus.
Aus to me is the toughest team to beat in the tourney, and rather than face them in semis, India would rather face Aus in the final where pressure is equal on both sides or in an alternate scenario, have England eliminate Aus. No other team outside of England in contention has the chops to beat Aus.

Of course this is my opinion and not fact. England just was the better team today, is the simple explanation.
 
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