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WAPDA issues 500m bonds, get 2b in subscription

Can anyone post some data on Bonds worldwide if they have ? Just to educate us a bit.
7 % to me seems way too excessive.
After all they are not talking about Defence savings certificates and other local bonds that the Government can just print more Rupee to pay off the high interest rate offered in Pakistan. This is return in forex..
Worldwide interest rates are at a real low.

Look here:

https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds

The global bond market is low because of low inflation and interest rates.

US 10-year Treasury interest rate is 1.1% US Treasury are also considered a global benchmark.

So yes, 7% is generous, but only if things remain the same. But looks like inflation is on the horizon, and with it rising interest rates.

Better for WAPDA to sell the bonds now at this rate before rising interest rates reduce its appeal.
 
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Honestly how dumb are we to not have all these dams in CPEC... Bunji is 7GW, Thakot 4GW, I think Katzara (also know as Skardu) is 15GW. Akhori is another but has just 600 MW of power, but 7.6 MAF of storage!!


A country blessed with such large amount of practically infinite power generation has been focusing on expensive furnace oil thermal power. :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
We can't have everything in cpec, China se hi sab krwana hai kya it's better to diversify.
 
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We can't have everything in cpec, China se hi sab krwana hai kya it's better to diversify.
Koi aur humein ghaans nahi dalta... $25-30b kaun deh ga jinsay yeh dams bunien gaye?
 
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Koi aur humein ghaans nahi dalta... $25-30b kaun deh ga jinsay yeh dams bunien gaye?
Koi aik entity nai entity nai degi isi liye bonds k route k through diversified portfolio ki investment li ja rahi hain.
 
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Koi aur humein ghaans nahi dalta... $25-30b kaun deh ga jinsay yeh dams bunien gaye?
Could have milked Habibis when the time was right. $8- $10 Billion to han main han milany per hi mil jaty, without firing a bullet. Per nhi, izat sy to roti kamani nhi. Pir b 2 - 4 billion ki bheek zaror mangni hy.

example: Egyptians are milking GCC pretty well, building a whole new capital with $20 billion investment, without returning or doing much in return.
 
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Koi aur humein ghaans nahi dalta... $25-30b kaun deh ga jinsay yeh dams bunien gaye?
Could offer it to the diaspora, if the legal guarantees are there. All things being equal, investing in the homeland carries a satisfaction all of its own.
 
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Honestly how dumb are we to not have all these dams in CPEC... Bunji is 7GW, Thakot 4GW, I think Katzara (also know as Skardu) is 15GW. Akhori is another but has just 600 MW of power, but 7.6 MAF of storage!!


A country blessed with such large amount of practically infinite power generation has been focusing on expensive furnace oil thermal power. :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:

CPEC is not all that. China wanted ownership of Bhasha dam which we refused. I just pray Pakistan get out of this early phase circular debt trap set up by CPEC power plants. Need to increase power generation and delivery to reduce capacity charges on emergency basis. Omar Ayub has been a failure and promised to end circular debt by end of 2020. Only solution now is high GDP growth rate that will increase electric consumption.
 
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Look here:

https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds

The global bond market is low because of low inflation and interest rates.

US 10-year Treasury interest rate is 1.1% US Treasury are also considered a global benchmark.

So yes, 7% is generous, but only if things remain the same. But looks like inflation is on the horizon, and with it rising interest rates.

Better for WAPDA to sell the bonds now at this rate before rising interest rates reduce its appeal.
I agree..WAPDA should simultaneously start bhasha and
Honestly how dumb are we to not have all these dams in CPEC... Bunji is 7GW, Thakot 4GW, I think Katzara (also know as Skardu) is 15GW. Akhori is another but has just 600 MW of power, but 7.6 MAF of storage!!


A country blessed with such large amount of practically infinite power generation has been focusing on expensive furnace oil thermal power. :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
Better to talk in billion units
The total cascade of already feasibility studies done is in excess of 300 billion units 3x our current capacity

All we needed was to use AB WB AIIB IDF and WAPDA bonds and some PSDP.
we could have done half of these projects giving huge employment opputunities and free power

We instead went for expenisve IPPs with return of 20-25%?!

Now that govt is out of crisis(still not completely as we are under IMF)
it should get maximum amount of bonds for cheap hydro power and get those completed rapidly

Due to our boom burst mentality we lost 10-12 years so these dams would take time

Once we are out of IMF we will have more flexibility to offer bonds and build bunji -thakot -pathan- bhasha-dasu..these are ready to start projects with

24b+12+20+21+21 billion =100billion units

(Total pakistani demand 120b units)

With mix of bonds and PSDP you can put the cost at 5cents instead of BOT model where it is at 8-9cents
Koi aur humein ghaans nahi dalta... $25-30b kaun deh ga jinsay yeh dams bunien gaye?
Look you dont need foreign component for local work
A dam has only 30-40% foreign component
So 12b$ bhasha dam just really needs 4b$
Rest you can gather from local banks, some supplier credit and some PSDP

Just like in dasu..we got 700m from WB and rest as above

Using this model you can easily start 3-4 dams togethr

The foreign component is difficult but is doable with bonds provided u r not under IMF and foreign sector crisis
 
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By 2030 demand could well be 250b units. Good thing Dasu, Bhasha will take 7-8 years. Hopefully we can get rid of capacity charges by 2025.
By 2027, Karot, Suki Kinari, Azad Pattan and Kohala will all come online as well. That is another 3,500 MW of practically free energy. Then couple this with 4800 MW Basha and 4200 MW Dasu by 2028, 800 MW Mohmand by 2025 and 300MW Balakot by 2026.

So by the year 2028 we will add 13,600MW of cheap power!


And these are the projects that are ongoing atm... imagine if we start building some more along the way.
 
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