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VIEW: Stop blaming the West Shahid Ilyas

The only legitimate and viable way of existence for a state is that it is based on the idea of public welfare, democracy, pluralism and the rule of law

“Whereas sovereignty over
the entire universe belongs to Allah Almighty alone and the authority which He has delegated to the State of Pakistan, through its people for being exercised within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust...” This is a citation taken from the Objectives Resolution — the guiding principles for lawmaking in Pakistan — that was presented by Prime Minister Liaquat Ali Khan, the right-hand man of Jinnah, before the constituent assembly in 1949.

In our anti-American and anti-West zeal, we have forgotten to appreciate that, though the West did play a part in pressing Pakistan deeper into the pit of religious bigotry, thanks to the anti-Soviet jihad in the 1980s, the causes of religious extremism and terrorism need to be explored further and much beyond the Afghan jihad. No matter how Jinnah lived his personal life, we have to acknowledge that he organised different sections of the Muslims of India for the achievement of a state solely based on their faith, Islam. No wonder, then, the country soon came to be known as the ‘Fortress of Islam’ and its objective became “Pakistan ka matlab kia? La Ilaha IlAllah” (What is the meaning of Pakistan? There is no god but Allah).

General Mohammad Ayub Khan, tacitly recognising that Pakistan indeed represented a religious ideology, gave in to the demand of Islamic fundamentalists that the name Republic of Pakistan in the 1962 Constitution be prefixed with the word ‘Islamic’. The Objectives Resolution was accepted as the guiding principles of the constitution. Religious bigots in Pakistan have always been successful in pressuring governments into passing retrogressive laws because of their conviction that Pakistan was made in order to make sure that the word of Allah prevailed. It was this inherent conviction and belief that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto had to bow down before to declare Ahmedis as non-Muslims.

Ziaul Haq explicitly — not implicitly like his predecessors — advocated the fact that Pakistan had been created in the name of Islam and needed to be ruled accordingly. Therefore, he shared governance with pan-Islamic religious parties, made the Objectives Resolution a substantive part of the constitution, brought school syllabi in line with what his religious partners told him was Islam, introduced Islamic laws, established tens of thousands of religious seminaries, incorporated in the constitution the definition of a Muslim and a non-Muslim, made prayer compulsory during office hours and last, but not the least, joined jihad in Afghanistan.

It is in this context that we need to try to understand the prevailing religious bigotry in Pakistan. Holding ‘the west’ responsible for our daily miseries and putting all blame into the west’s basket is neither constructive, fair nor just. Nor are our claims on western aid justifiable on the basis of the logic that the latter was responsible for our descent into chaos.

It has become fashionable in Pakistan for ‘liberal’ columnists to condemn acts of extremism and terrorism, but they are very quick to add that the Western-supported Afghan jihad led to the scourge of extremism in the country. They fail to realise that this kind of qualified condemnation of extremism strengthens the hand of extremists by way of conferring a sort of legitimacy upon their ongoing anti-western struggle in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Secondly, this kind of qualified condemnation points to their lack of understanding and non-recognition of the presence of extremism in the decades-long official narrative that predates the Afghan jihad. That narrative necessitated the addition of the prefix ‘Islamic’ to everything Pakistani.

There is, therefore, an urgent need to understand and recognise that the faith-based narrative, that ultimately brought Pakistan to where it is today, dates back to the struggle for the creation of this country. There is abundant literature available in libraries that can help us understand that the makers of Pakistan relied heavily on Islamic rhetoric. After the creation of Pakistan and through its political development, there are hundreds of instances that show that Pakistan has always followed the path that was shown to it by religious parties, including the present-day Taliban sympathisers — the Jamaat-e-Islami and Jamiat-e-Ulema-i-Islam.

We also need to understand that the modern-day world is not conducive for ideology-based states. States that were based on communism could not sustain themselves and collapsed under their own weight. Nazism — that believed in the superiority of the German race and that pursued cross-border ambitions — faced devastation. Iran — which is struggling to exist with a cross-border agenda — is neither an ideal case to be followed, nor can Pakistan be compared to that country in terms of wealth, geography, strategy and population.

The only legitimate and viable way of existence for a state is that it is based on the idea of public welfare, democracy, pluralism and the rule of law. All developed and developing states that are based on these principles are prospering.

The writer hails from Waziristan and can be reached at ilyasakbarkhan@gmail.com
 
Apart from Jinnah, no other leader in our country has/had the guts to look at the Islamic Fundamentalists in their faces and say no to them.

Majlis-e-Ahrar and many others declared Jinnah to be a Kaffir and were against the idea of Pakistan. JInnah created Pakistan without the help of these fanatics they have now moved their camp to Pakistan and are undoing all the work put in by great people.

Zia was the biggest motherfucker of them all, he was a bigot, extremist and coward to the core and the country has suffered becuase of him.

Jinnah repeatedly after the creation of Pakistan used to tell the Islamic Fundamentalists that he will not force any rules upon others.

We need to tackle these so called religious parties and monitor their worship places, the lal worship place and all the other worship places too have all kinds of militants spewing our hate and inciting sectarian violence. We need to stop these people and ideologically fight these worship places.
 
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I also take offence to word Islam being used in these articles and the use of the word mosque, these are clearly wahabis and the buildings where they spew BS is a worship place (I think satan/yazid/zia) or something like this.
 
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"STOP BLAMING WEST", wha ji wha, you cant say this, coz this is your so own called FREEDOM OF SPEECH. One side you can make our Prophet Photos, on other we cant say that, you people diong this?
 
Saying just "Pakistan"? You know what? " khena sookha, Aookha kar ky wikha". 7 lac Army Personal are alive not to protect "Pakistan" but "Islamic Republic of Pakistan", and if you dont like it, go ahead, you are free, no one forcing you to live here, take the visa of UK, USA, Israel or Denmark, live there happily. And we will feel proud to clean west dirt form our land.
 
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Is this Jinnah’s Pakistan?

The massacre of Ahmadis in Lahore has once again exposed the inner fissures of our society. As if treating them like second class citizens was not enough, the attacks on their private space of worship has confirmed that militant Islamism is now an embedded reality. Those who have been denying the presence of Punjabi Taliban will have to construct another web of denial and disbelief. We saw signs of that after the fateful tragedy. Instead of constituting investigation teams and ensuring that all necessary leads are collated, senior officials of the Punjab government made a direct reference to RAW, the infamous Indian intelligence agency.

That the terrorists can attack anyone and anywhere is now an established reality. The fact that they chose Lahore and a vulnerable community is a clear message. Indeed, Pakistan as a state should reconsider its goals and strategy of survival. The symbolism of the day chosen for the heinous mass murders is also significant. It was Yaum-i-Takbeer when Pakistan’s atomic prowess was proved on the global stage. Perhaps the greatest delusion of the state’s might and invincibility seems to have been blown to bits. The process of bigotry that started in the 1950s culminated in Zulfikar Bhutto’s tragic action of declaring Ahmadis as non- Muslims in 1974. The Zia years deepened this culture of intolerance. Whilst we may have secured our ‘external defence’ through the much touted nuclear deterrence, internally Pakistan and its hapless citizens are more vulnerable than ever. Fundamentalism is a cancer that has widely spread in the body politic. Yet few wish to tackle it. For the past two years, get-Zardari debates have dominated Pakistan’s public discourse punctuated by the anti-Americanism of the right. The interior minister has been portrayed by the media Taliban as a corrupt nincompoop; and blood thirst for him is evident from the news pages and TV screens. Taliban apologists cannot confront the military establishment directly but the truth is the fight against the Taliban requires political stability and a domestic consensus. The right of Ahmadis to worship and lead a normal life according to the Constitution of Pakistan has been violated. What should a community do when the state and non-state actors are all geared to hound them? Is this Jinnah’s Pakistan? No.

We have gone too far and pessimists are now saying that the process of destroying Pakistani society is irreversible. There is still hope that we shall overcome this menace if Pakistani public opinion is fashioned to look a little deeper inside and not find all sources of evil in Washington or Delhi. The electronic media has a critical role to play but lack of self-regulation and introspection is missing. If anything, we find more and more analysts and commentators siding with the militants. Pakistan’s fight against terrorism has entered a new, decisive phase. If the political forces are not going to unite against this menace then they should learn a lesson or two from history. The secular and moderate political parties will be the obvious victims of this menace. Similarly, Pakistan’s military establishment needs to revise its paradigm of national security. If the offshoots of Taliban and al Qaeda are going to destroy Pakistani society and further incapacitate the state then what good are nuclear weapons and state-of the- art equipment? Clearly, there is a need for concerted action now. Political mobilisation against terrorism, involvement of moderate religious leaders and media campaigns must precede further military action in the north. We cannot let Taliban sympathisers run media campaigns and interfere in state operations.

Most importantly, the governments at the federal and national level need to acknowledge that the state and its civilian institutions have lost their core capacities due to decades of misgovernance. Police reform and reorganisation of intelligence agencies is perhaps most vital at this juncture.

The battle for Pakistan’s survival cannot be lost. This is the only country we have.

Is this Jinnah?s Pakistan? – The Express Tribune
 
Saying just "Pakistan"? You know what? " khena sookha, Aookha kar ky wikha". 7 lac Army Personal are alive not to protect "Pakistan" but "Islamic Republic of Pakistan", and if you dont like it, go ahead, you are free, no one forcing you to live here, take the visa of UK, USA, Israel or Denmark, live there happily. And we will feel proud to clean west dirt form our land.

How much more do you want to save Pakistan Maj. Gel. (Maj. Gen.?). Don't you think that now your saving business should be left to the young and pragmatic citizens of a democratic Pakistan and this ideology of yours should actually now retire?

Edit: Having read views of some Pakistani members here, I am sure that water is under the bridge with your "Islamic" argument now. Also, when you quote your 7 lac army fighting in the name of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, please also see the bunch that it is fighting. That is where the Islamic additions to Pakistan has led the country and its Army.
 
"STOP BLAMING WEST", wha ji wha, you cant say this, coz this is your so own called FREEDOM OF SPEECH. One side you can make our Prophet Photos, on other we cant say that, you people diong this?

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we are not talking about photos of Prophet, we are talking about Pakistan blaming all its internal ills & rifts on West
 
How much more do you want to save Pakistan Maj. Gel. (Maj. Gen.?). Don't you think that now your saving business should be left to the young and pragmatic citizens of a democratic Pakistan and this ideology of yours should actually now retire?

Edit: Having read views of some Pakistani members here, I am sure that water is under the bridge with your "Islamic" argument now. Also, when you quote your 7 lac army fighting in the name of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, please also see the bunch that it is fighting. That is where the Islamic additions to Pakistan has led the country and its Army.

This guy is not a Maj. General, :lol:. How can a 20 year old become a Major General.

He maybe one in an online game but not one in real life. The Islamic extremist destruction came when these parties especially Ahrar moved to Pakistan, they were against the idea of Pakistan and said that it would collapse, thats why they did not took allegience to Pakistan, when it did not collapse, they started arriving in droves during the 50's. Today they are causing destruction and we tried to escape in the first place.

You are an Indian and have an open heart, could you please take all these groups and retards back. I will pay you and also pray for you.
 
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Its time we change the name of Pakistan to "" Republic of Pakistan"" which was actually Jinnahs vision and 4real jinnahs Pakistan.

Islamic republic now is """estabilishment ka pakistan..

I don't see how merely changing the name of country will make Terrorists go away and the economy getting strong and people getting education, health, security, and peace.
 
This guy is not a Maj. General, :lol:.

He maybe one in an online game but not one in real life. The Islamic extremist destruction came when these parties especially Ahrar moved to Pakistan, they were against the idea of Pakistan and said that it would collapse, thats why they did not took allegience to Pakistan, when it did not collapse, they started arriving in droves during the 50's. Today they are causing destruction and we tried to escape in the first place.

You are an Indian and have an open heart, could you please take all these groups and retards back. I will pay you and also pray for you.

Bro, we are having problems with whatever little that are trickling back periodically from colleges etc. in Muridke and the ilk. In fact, we have been counting on your guys to act as a buffer for as long as possible and win this. And I hope that you believe it when I say that I surely pray for you guys to win this one.

But even if the taking back idea comes to pass, our politicians will first have to count the vote bank benefits, and then debate on India TV for at least a few years before they take a decision. I think by then you would have handled them by yoursel.

In fact, since that you guys are now unfortunately by far more experienced in handling these braindeads, please also take Rakhi Sawant, she is causing too many needless earthquakes around here and I am sure that Maj. Gel. will like her. :D
 
I don't see how merely changing the name of country will make Terrorists go away and the economy getting strong and people getting education, health, security, and peace.

It may do none of the above my friend. Your skepticism is valid. But what it will indeed do is to effectively point out a definitive change in the ideology - signal increased tolerance, respect for law, impetus on overall/improved education and will be a clear message of denial of space to extremists. Now tell me, will that not be an excellent start to what you are seeking to accomplish as desired.
 
I just read that the nephew of the great Sir Zafarullah Khan was among those who got killed in the attacks on Friday.

Do you people know of the services rendered by Sir Zafarullah Khan to this country, do you know how Jinnah fought with the islamists to get him into that post and when he did, boy did he do things that made the world notice Pakistan.

An American newspaper published a story the next day after the first UN speech by Pakistan, that Sir Zafarullah Khan has today raised a few eyebrows that Pakistan esixts and it has to be noted.

I feel ashamed and angry at what has happened, the people who fought for this country are being killed by the bastards who opposed the creation of Pakistan in the first place.
 
It may do none of the above my friend. Your skepticism is valid. But what it will indeed do is to effectively point out a definitive change in the ideology - signal increased tolerance, respect for law, impetus on overall/improved education and will be a clear message of denial of space to extremists. Now tell me, will that not be an excellent start to what you are seeking to accomplish as desired.

After watching Taliban failing in Afghanistan, I have come to a conclusion that you cannot "force" Idealogy.

One thing to note here that the masses of Pakistan (who have very little presence online) are uneducated. If an Ideology shift has to occur, it should come from within. As we argue that you cannot force Islamic laws on people similarly you cannot force other ideas either. Forcing Ideas usually make people suffer from identity crisis.

Education seems to be the only option here. Every thing else (name changing) can come later.
 

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