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Vietnam’s deficit with China rises 12.5% to $32.3bn
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UPDATED : 01/04/2016 11:51 GMT + 7
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Vietnam suffered a massive US$32.3 billion trade deficit with China, where it imported from a needle to an elephant, in 2015.

Last year imports from China reached nearly $50 billion, while Vietnam’s exports to its northern neighbor were only some $17.7 billion, according to data by the General Statistics Office.

The $32.3 billion deficit in 2015 is 12.5 percent higher than that of one year earlier, and is the highest-ever negative trade balance Vietnam has had with China.

Vietnam logged a $23.7 billion and $28.9 billion deficit with China in 2013 and 2014, respectively.

The massive deficit in 2015 was largely due to the rising imports of steel, metal, cars, car components, and raw materials for footwear and textile production, according to the General Statistics Office.

What is most worrying is that Vietnam still bought a huge volume of agro-products from China, despite being an agriculture-exporting country itself.

In the Jan-Nov period in 2015, the Southeast Asian country imported $165 million worth of fruits and vegetables from China, up 21.2 percent from a year earlier, according to customs data.

There was, however, a huge amount of Chinese produce brought to Vietnam across the border, which was not included in the data.

Vietnam even imported products that can be grown locally, and thus domestic produce has eventually lost its home market to the Chinese imports.

Price really matters, as Chinese fruits and vegetables are 30 to 50 percent cheaper than the Vietnamese-grown products, according to industry insiders.

“Customers have real demand for Chinese products, so we just cannot stop sourcing them,” said Do Thi Lanh, a small trader at An Suong Market in District 12, Ho Chi Minh City.

Lanh said Chinese fruits and vegetables can always find buyers easily thanks to their much cheaper prices compared to the Vietnamese produce.

“Chinese cabbages fetch only VND8,000 [$0.39] a kg, compared to VND40,000 [$1.79] a kg for those grown in Da Lat or Hanoi,” she said.

Upon being imported, Chinese fruits and vegetables are distributed to wholesale markets in Vietnam, from where they will be transported to smaller markets, supermarkets and especially those restaurants, eateries and firms that supply meals in large quantities to factories, hospitals or schools.

“Chinese products are always available no matter how many of them you want to source,” said Hung, who sells spices at the Hoc Mon wholesale market in Ho Chi Minh City.

“The domestic products are more expensive and are of varying quality, so people prefer Chinese ones.”

Hung added the Chinese garlic or chili will be ground and sold to restaurants to make sauces, so “no one knows whether they are eating Vietnamese or Chinese spices.”

Besides fruits and vegetables, Vietnam also bought different seafood products from China.

In 2015 the country imported $54.6 million worth of seafood products from mainland China and Hong Kong, a massive 42.2 percent year on year increase, according to the Vietnam Association of Seafood Exporters and Producers.

Deficit will continue widening

Vietnam’s trade deficit with China is expected to continue widening in the coming years, as the Southeast Asian country still has to rely heavily on Chinese raw materials for several sectors, including rubber, footwear, and textile and garment production.

For instance, Vietnam last year spent more than $1 billion importing plastic products, because “no domestic firms are able to produce these materials,” said Tran Viet Anh, deputy chairman of the Ho Chi Minh City Rubber Plastic Manufacturer Association.

“We will have to do so in the next ten years, as there are no domestic suppliers for the materials,” he said.

Diep Thanh Kiet, deputy chairman of the Vietnam Leather, Footwear and Handbag Association (Lefaso), said the footwear industry is much too reliant on imported materials.

“While the industry needs 210 million square meters of faux leather a year, domestic supply can only cover 4.2 percent of that,” he said.

“Similarly, only 12.5 percent of the annual demand for 92 million square meters of nonwoven fabrics can be met domestically.”

Vietnam therefore has to import most of the needed materials, and it is difficult to find other suppliers than China, Kiet admitted.

“There is no nation that can supply the materials in huge quantities, at cheap prices and with diverse designs and patterns like China,” he explained.

The Lefaso official added that the heavy reliance on Chinese materials “may persist in dozens of years to come,” if Vietnam’s policy to develop supporting industries remains ineffective.

Vietnam’s deficit with China rises 12.5% to .3bn
 
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Single country deficit or surplus is quite meaningless. What's meaningful is the whole trade deficit or surplus.
 
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Single country deficit or surplus is quite meaningless. What's meaningful is the whole trade deficit or surplus.

the whole point is about bilateral trade, clearly indicated Vietnam need China more than China need Vietnam as Vietnam even imported large amounts of raw materials from China to propel and running their industries.
 
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the whole point is about bilateral trade, clearly indicated Vietnam need China more than China need Vietnam as Vietnam even imported large amounts of raw materials from China to propel and running their industries.
The need is mutual. China doesn't export to Vietnam as charity. The export creates jobs and brings income in China.
 
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The need is mutual. China doesn't export to Vietnam as charity. The export creates jobs and brings income in China.

as mutual as it is, as i said before Vietnam need China more than China need Vietnam. Vietnam can't find such supplier which is close to their homes and at reasonable prices. Sure they can find other supplier but it means they must paid at higher price than what China offer as they must be shipped from overseas hence reducing their competitiveness in market in prices. Meanwhile, for the China, Vietnam market is quite large sure it is, but it's not one of the largest market they had as China running much larger trade against Japan, South Korea, US, Malaysia, EU and so on. Hence even if Vietnam and China is at conflict and China imposed blockade in trade against Vietnam, it was Vietnam industries who will suffer more compared to China businessman who conduct trade against Vietnam.
 
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the whole point is about bilateral trade, clearly indicated Vietnam need China more than China need Vietnam as Vietnam even imported large amounts of raw materials from China to propel and running their industries.
nothing is lasting forever. what you see is just a snapshot of time. we work on reducing a potential chinese economic blackmail by joining various trade pacts: asean, korea, tpp, russia, europe and israel. but that is just the beginning. we have more fun games in mind.
 
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nothing is lasting forever. what you see is just a snapshot of time. we work on reducing a potential chinese economic blackmail by joining various trade pacts: asean, korea, tpp, russia, europe and israel. but that is just the beginning. we have more fun games in mind.

hmmm

It seems more like your grasping at straws.

Aliances and pacts are not worth anything as much as relying on your selves. The so called allies you mentioned are also intertwined with Chinese interests - in fact they are definitely more aligned with China than Vietnam (with the exception of the TPP).
 
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hmmm

It seems more like your grasping at straws.

Aliances and pacts are not worth anything as much as relying on your selves. The so called allies you mentioned are also intertwined with Chinese interests - in fact they are definitely more aligned with China than Vietnam (with the exception of the TPP).
sure, chinese interests are global, aren´t they?

you call grasping at straws, but I call it strategic game. too bad: we both would be the best friends on earth if you acted more reasonable. it is very unfortunenate, today, for vietnam, I can tell you, china is a country, nobody of us is wanting to talk of. you do your stuffs, while we go into opposite direction. alliances are useful if you are weaker and smaller than your opponents. by the way, when we sought alliance to foreign powers such as Portugal and France, you were still stuck with closed door policy, and most of chinese had no clue there is a world existing outside China.
 
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nothing is lasting forever. what you see is just a snapshot of time. we work on reducing a potential chinese economic blackmail by joining various trade pacts: asean, korea, tpp, russia, europe and israel. but that is just the beginning. we have more fun games in mind.
good for you :)
 
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nothing is lasting forever. what you see is just a snapshot of time. we work on reducing a potential chinese economic blackmail by joining various trade pacts: asean, korea, tpp, russia, europe and israel. but that is just the beginning. we have more fun games in mind.

TTP will widen your deficit trade with China, as more countries will invest and building processing industries in your country, it's mean the more your country need parts item and raw material to running your industries, and the most logical choice is to import them from China. Why it can be happened, simple, the facts about Vietnam is not blessed with abundant raw material necessary to support industry like Coal, Oil, tar, tin, iron, aluminium, and other their derivative processed products, and the derivative processes product of such raw materials is much cheaper to be to processed in China compared to other countries because China doing it at large scale. And it will be the most logical choice for any businessman in Vietnam to import what ever items and products (like steel, aluminium, processed oil, petrochemical products and other) they need from China than importing them from other countries overseas such as US, Canada, Australia or Brazil, because the location of China is very close to Vietnam, hence reducing logistical cost to ship or transporting them.

And such occurrence need cooperation from China, and will entangled Vietnam economy with China more deeper than ever.
 
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