Vietnamese girls clean and pay respect to the Chinese PLA fallen heros in PLA cemetery in Vietnam

[beijingwalker]

Vietnamese girls clean and pay respect to the Chinese PLA fallen heros aiding Vietnam fighting against US invaders during Vietnam US war in Chinese PLA cemetery in Vietnam.

Over 4000 Chinese PLA soldiers died helping Vietnam fighting against France and US, among them 1446 were buried in 40 PLA cemeteries in Vietnam

 

[beijingwalker]

Military History Online - Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge

by Bob Seals

Best turn it into a bigger warIm afraid you really ought to send more troops to the SouthDont be afraid of U.S. intervention, at most its no worse than having another Korean War. The Chinese army is prepared, and if America takes the risk of attacking North Vietnam, the Chinese army will march in at once. Our troops want a war now.[1]
-- Mao speaking to the North Vietnamese in 1964

So why did the powerful modern nations of France and the United States lose two wars in Vietnam to a third rate military power like North Vietnam? This is the logical question that many historians have asked and attempted to answer since the Second Vietnam War ended in April 1975 with the fall of Saigon to North Vietnamese tanks.

This Chinese military support, to include equipment, advisors and planning assistance, provided from 1949-1975, would prove in both the First and Second Indochina Wars to be decisive. This substantial military support would give the Peoples Army of Vietnam an edge to resist Western forces and eventually subjugate the Republic of South Vietnam. This support, for various reasons, has never really been acknowledged by most popular histories of the conflict. This is perhaps due to the fact that such acknowledgement of the massive Chinese military support provided challenges many cherished myths of Vietnamese Communist military brilliance and the heroic struggle against overwhelming western imperialists. Two recent histories bear this out. Case in point A Military History of China, edited by David A. Graff makes no mention of Chinese support for Vietnam while Bruce A. Ellemans Modern Chinese Warfare, 1795-1989, dismisses Chinese support in a mere two sentences.[3] However, unless this decisive Chinese support is properly understood by students of both Vietnam wars the answer to the question of why North Vietnam won will remain incomplete and misunderstood. This paper will attempt to outline the Chinese communist support in both wars and explain exactly why this support was so decisive.


China communist Party and North Vietnam power signed up agreements about PLA sent troops to Vietnam fight against American imperialist in 1965. At the same year, PLA send air defensive missile force, air defensive artillery, engineering force, railways troops, sweep mine team and shipping fleet and so on support North Vietnam. And carried on battle and supported tasks.

Chia total sent 320,000 troops to support North Vietnam until 1968 March, At the same time, China provided numerous military equipments and battle supplies. Include 170 planes, 140 ships and 500 tanks, 16000 trucks, cannon 37000, 2.16 millions guns ,bullets and shells add up to 12800 millions. In additional to these, and trained 6000 persons and technologists, through Vietnam war ,China gave an huge human power, finance, substance assistances for North Vietnam, count in supplies equality more the 20 billion dollars.

 

[shi12jun]

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Vietnam Peach has a total of 2 million fans on several platforms in China

 

[beijingwalker]

China should provide a fund and hire some locals to take care of those cemeteries, so just move them back to China.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Over 4000 Chinese PLA soldiers died helping Vietnam fighting against France and US, among them 1446 were buried in 40 PLA cemeteries in Vietnam

we didnt invite them come to VN bcs Cnese troops r usless and only good at surrender, not mentioning they only came for building roads. Blame Mao for their dead bcs we refused, but Mao just ignored and sent them to VN.

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I said [to the Chinese]: “Yes, yes! I will do that. I will only fight at the level of one platoon downwards.” After we had fought and China realized that we could fight efficiently, Mao suddenly had a new line of thinking. He said that as the Americans were fighting us, he would bring in [Chinese] troops to help us build roads. His essential aim was to find out about the situation in our country so that later he could strike us, and thereby expand into Southeast Asia. There was no other reason. We were aware of this matter, but had to allow it [the entry of Chinese troops]. But that was OK. They decided to send in their soldiers. I only asked that they send personnel, but these troops came with guns and ammunition. I also had to countenance this.

Later, he [Mao Zedong] forced us to permit 20,000 of his troops to come and build a road from Nghe Tinh into Nam Bo [the Vietnamese term for southern Vietnam]. I refused. They kept proposing, but I would not budge. They pressured me into permitting them to come, but I did not accept it. They kept on pressuring, but I did not agree. I provide you with these examples, comrades, so that you can see their long-standing plot to steal our country, and how wicked their plot is.

Comrade B in 1979 : the comment and prediction of a Vietnam leader on China aggression (Mao, Deng)

@somsak , @Lux de Veritas , @Nihonjin1051 , @gambit , Comrade B on the Plot of the Reactionary Chinese Clique Against Vietnam Date: 1979 Source: People’s Army Library, Hanoi. Document obtained and translated for CWIHP by Christopher Goscha Description: Speech by Comrade B (Le Duan) regarding...

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[OIO]

China should provide a fund and hire some locals to take care of those cemeteries, so just move them back to China.

These martyrs' cemeteries are well maintained, and Vietnam has not destroyed them because of the conflict between China and Vietnam.

 

[cochine]

This ís true face òf China. 1972 -1979

 

[OIO]

This ís true face òf China. 1972 -1979



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[Viva_Viet]

This ís true face òf China. 1972 -1979



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Pathetic Cnese troops, Mao sent them to find out the way to annex VN-Camb-Thai...but they were killed by American .

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I will say more to you comrades so that you may see more of the military importance of this matter. Mao asked me:

In Laos, how many square kilometers [of land] are there?

I answered:
About 200,000 [sq. km.].

What is its population? [Mao asked]:

[I answered]: Around 3 million!

[Mao responded:] That’s not very much! I’ll bring my people there, indeed!

[Mao asked:] How many square kilometers [of land] are there in Thailand?.

[I responded]: About 500,000 [sq. km.].

And how many people? [Mao asked].

About 40 million! [I answered].

My God! [Mao said], Szechwan province of China has 500,000 sq. km., but has 90 million people. I’ll take some more of my people there, too [to Thailand]!

As for Vietnam, they did not dare to speak about moving in people this way. However, he [Mao] told me: “Comrade, isn’t it true that your people have fought and defeated the Yuan army?” I said: “Correct.” “Isn’t it also true, comrade, that you defeated the Qing army?” I said: “Correct.” He said: “And the Ming army as well?” I said: “Yes, and you too. I have beaten you as well. Did you know that?” I spoke with Mao Zedong in that way. He said: “Yes, yes!” He wanted to take Laos, all of Thailand – as well as wanting to take all of Southeast Asia. Bringing people to live there. It was complicated [to that point].

Comrade B in 1979 : the comment and prediction of a Vietnam leader on China aggression (Mao, Deng)

@somsak , @Lux de Veritas , @Nihonjin1051 , @gambit , Comrade B on the Plot of the Reactionary Chinese Clique Against Vietnam Date: 1979 Source: People’s Army Library, Hanoi. Document obtained and translated for CWIHP by Christopher Goscha Description: Speech by Comrade B (Le Duan) regarding...

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These martyrs' cemeteries are well maintained, and Vietnam has not destroyed them because of the conflict between China and Vietnam.

We r not barbarian like CNese Mongol-Manchus who rape-massacred and destroyed Han 100 years and 300 years

 

[Beast]

we didnt invite them come to VN bcs Cnese troops r usless and only good at surrender, not mentioning they only came for building roads. Blame Mao for their dead bcs we refused, but Mao just ignored and sent them to VN.

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I said [to the Chinese]: “Yes, yes! I will do that. I will only fight at the level of one platoon downwards.” After we had fought and China realized that we could fight efficiently, Mao suddenly had a new line of thinking. He said that as the Americans were fighting us, he would bring in [Chinese] troops to help us build roads. His essential aim was to find out about the situation in our country so that later he could strike us, and thereby expand into Southeast Asia. There was no other reason. We were aware of this matter, but had to allow it [the entry of Chinese troops]. But that was OK. They decided to send in their soldiers. I only asked that they send personnel, but these troops came with guns and ammunition. I also had to countenance this.

Later, he [Mao Zedong] forced us to permit 20,000 of his troops to come and build a road from Nghe Tinh into Nam Bo [the Vietnamese term for southern Vietnam]. I refused. They kept proposing, but I would not budge. They pressured me into permitting them to come, but I did not accept it. They kept on pressuring, but I did not agree. I provide you with these examples, comrades, so that you can see their long-standing plot to steal our country, and how wicked their plot is.

Comrade B in 1979 : the comment and prediction of a Vietnam leader on China aggression (Mao, Deng)

@somsak , @Lux de Veritas , @Nihonjin1051 , @gambit , Comrade B on the Plot of the Reactionary Chinese Clique Against Vietnam Date: 1979 Source: People’s Army Library, Hanoi. Document obtained and translated for CWIHP by Christopher Goscha Description: Speech by Comrade B (Le Duan) regarding...

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Stop acting you know anything... Most PLA soldiers killed in Vietnam were anti-aircraft air defense unit in North Vietnam when US start bombing Hanoi. They free up NVA soldiers who can be send to the South Vietnam.

 

[flowerfan2020]

My Chinese folks. Viet only behaved when you over power them. Don't wasted your energy with these two crow here.

 

[Beast]

My Chinese folks. Viet only behaved when you over power them. Don't wasted your energy with these two crow here.

I can bet both are not Vietnamese from Vietnam. Song Hong and Aviet plus the 2 cute Vietnamese girls shown here are sensible good Vietnamese. Dont stereotype all Vietnamese.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I can bet both are not Vietnamese from Vietnam. Song Hong and Aviet plus the 2 cute Vietnamese girls shown here are sensible good Vietnamese. Dont stereotype all Vietnamese.

They are probably defeated South Vietnamese.

 

[flowerfan2020]

I can bet both are not Vietnamese from Vietnam. Song Hong and Aviet plus the 2 cute Vietnamese girls shown here are sensible good Vietnamese. Dont stereotype all Vietnamese.

I only referred to these two Viet crows in PDF. I meet some nice real Vietnamese on the forum.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Stop acting you know anything... Most PLA soldiers killed in Vietnam were anti-aircraft air defense unit in North Vietnam when US start bombing Hanoi. They free up NVA soldiers who can be send to the South Vietnam.

even Mao said that he sent those troops just for building roads (while the main goal is finding out the way to annex Southeast Asia ). No one force those troops join the anti-aircraft air defense bcs they were usless like other Cnese troops.

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Mao suddenly had a new line of thinking. He said that as the Americans were fighting us, he would bring in [Chinese] troops to help us build roads. His essential aim was to find out about the situation in our country so that later he could strike us, and thereby expand into Southeast Asia. There was no other reason. We were aware of this matter, but had to allow it [the entry of Chinese troops]. But that was OK. They decided to send in their soldiers. I only asked that they send personnel, but these troops came with guns and ammunition. I also had to countenance this.

Comrade B in 1979 : the comment and prediction of a Vietnam leader on China aggression (Mao, Deng)

@somsak , @Lux de Veritas , @Nihonjin1051 , @gambit , Comrade B on the Plot of the Reactionary Chinese Clique Against Vietnam Date: 1979 Source: People’s Army Library, Hanoi. Document obtained and translated for CWIHP by Christopher Goscha Description: Speech by Comrade B (Le Duan) regarding...

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