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Vietnamese American refugees who witnessed fall of Saigon urge U.S. to accept more Afghans

Aug. 19, 2021, 7:21 AM CST / Updated Aug. 20, 2021, 9:09 PM CST
By Claire Wang

On April 30, 1975, Thanh Duong scaled the 14-foot wall of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon, South Vietnam. Duong, a civil engineer for the South Vietnamese government, had worked closely with the Americans during the Vietnam War. He knew he would be punished should the communists capture the capital.

Climbing into the embassy had been a last resort. Duong had exhausted every other avenue of escape: looking for a boat through connections in the navy, seeking help from the U.S. Agency for International Development, finding shelter in shuttered military housing.

“I failed at every channel,” said Duong, 76, who lives in Nashville, Tennessee. “I was so frightened. I was thinking to myself, ‘I won’t be able to get out.’”

Eventually, with the help of U.S. reporters, Duong was admitted inside the building, where he waited in agony for hours before he was airlifted out of the country by a military helicopter. In subsequent years, nine of Duong’s siblings would join him in the U.S. Their children now live all across the country.

On Monday, while watching viral video of desperate Afghans clinging onto a U.S. military jet, Duong began reliving one of the worst days of his life.

“When I saw the scenes from the news from pictures and videos,” he said, “I was just devastated. It’s complete chaos, just as it was in 1975.”

For Vietnamese Americans, the aftermath of President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan and end two decades of conflict triggers painful memories of another two-decade war a half-century ago. Since the Taliban seized Kabul, many refugees and their descendants have been recounting perilous escapes from Saigon and calling on Biden to immediately admit as many Afghan refugees as possible.

Witnessing the strife of Afghans is “heart-wrenching for families who escaped Saigon,” said Duong’s niece Minh-Thu Pham, a board member of the Progressive Vietnamese American Organization, which is known as PIVOT. “We know the desperation, the loss of homeland and fear and panic they must be feeling.”

Pham, who helped draft an official statement on PIVOT’s behalf, urged Biden to remove the cap on the number of Afghan refugee visas and Special Immigrant Visas. Unlike her uncle, Pham’s father was fighting for the South Vietnamese army when Saigon fell. He was sent to a re-education camp for several years before he was able to flee by boat.

A slew of right-wing pundits and Republican lawmakers have deployed the Saigon comparisons to frame the Afghanistan crisis as a foreign policy debacle for Democrats. Pham said the finger-pointing is dangerous.

“It’s unfair to say this is ‘Biden’s Saigon,’ because it feels like politicizing the situation,” she said. “What we need to do is recognize the human consequences of war.”

Kham Moua, the director of national policy at the Southeast Asia Resource Action Center, said the humanitarian crisis unfolding in Afghanistan is “very reminiscent” of the U.S.’s chaotic exit from Southeast Asia in the mid-1970s.

“There’s a large emphasis on Vietnam,” he said, “but we saw the same scenes in Cambodia and Laos. We saw photos of people scrambling to get on planes and boats.”
 
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Taliban could help Uijgur poeople to regain independence from China in next time. They are both Islamist.
 
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Taliban could help Uijgur poeople to regain independence from China in next time. They are both Islamist.
I am not convinced by these Taliban either, can be dangerous for the neighborhood

But I guess wait and see
 
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I am not convinced by these Taliban either, can be dangerous for the neighborhood

But I guess wait and see
Only time will tale. At least the Taliban leadership seems very friendly to China. Also Chinese media coverage of the Taliban views them as liberator's where as western media views the Taliban as terrorists. China doesn't have to do much tho. As with other countries of the world, the harder the west pushes a country, the closer the country is towards China.
 
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Only time will tale. At least the Taliban leadership seems very friendly to China. Also Chinese media coverage of the Taliban views them as liberator's where as western media views the Taliban as terrorists. China doesn't have to do much tho. As with other countries of the world, the harder the west pushes a country, the closer the country is towards China.
China isn't in danger

It's mostly Russia through Central Asian states and Pakistan

Basically Chinese and Russian allies not the states themselves

I wouldn't fear too much if I was a Chinese, it's the neighborhood that'll suffer if they

A- can't control the situation
B- don't want to control due to whatever reason

My guess is option A
 
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It's OK as long as Viet Nam doesn't take Afghan refugees.
 
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lol that's like saying both China and Vietnam are communist so they much be friends.

Communism in China and Vietnam is fake, both is nationalist. Vietnam look at China as enemy for sovereignity of the country.
 
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Communism in China and Vietnam is fake, both is nationalist. Vietnam look at China as enemy for sovereignity of the country.
Nah, outside of a bunch of kids fighting on the internet, the CCP and CPV are actually close in relationship. If you read the press, they frequently complement each other.
 
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He was sent to a re-education camp for several years before he was able to flee by boat.

Gotta love how these Governments treat their people with kindness...I guess we know who serves whom..

And after a few years, they will become 'proud' Americans and B.S. everything about China and give Chinese members 'negative ratings' in this forum :rofl:

Yeah I wonder why they would ever dislike their Government and flee to the US.
 
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Communism in China and Vietnam is fake, both is nationalist. Vietnam look at China as enemy for sovereignity of the country.
exactly. if you don't understand what you are claiming, don't post stupid crap.
 
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exactly. if you don't understand what you are claiming, don't post stupid crap.

We do understand clearly about expansion mentality of China aggressor from antcent time.
 
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We do understand clearly about expansion mentality of China aggressor from antcent time.
It's funny to see you people so hopping mad about China. The truth is, no one in China cares about you.
 
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