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I am surprised and disappointed that he reveals the proposed deal at so early stage. that is not wise as that gives the chinese time to counter and sabotage the pact.

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Vietnam asks Philippines to form pact to counter China – report - CNN Philippines


» 04/20/2015
PHILIPPINES – VIETNAM

South China Sea: Vietnam offers the Philippines a deal to contain China

Talks between Hanoi and Manila are already underway as China moves into disputed area. For Benigno Aquino, “Perhaps it’s even worse today,” he said speaking about the situation. Meanwhile, joint military exercise US-Philippines military manoeuvres get underway.

Manila (AsiaNews) – Vietnam asked the Philippines to reach a strategic agreement to counterbalance Beijing’s push into the South China Sea, Filipino President Benigno Aquino said today in an interview with the South China Morning Post.

Aquino warned that, in view of China’s recent drive into the disputed area in the South China Sea, things are more alarming now than a year ago. “Perhaps it’s even worse today,” he said.

Last month, satellite images showed Chinese bulldozers building an airstrip on Fiery Cross Reef in the Spratly Islands. These islands, together with the Paracels, are disputed by Vietnam, Taiwan, the Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia.

Aquino said that talks with Vietnam are part of Manila’s plan to strengthen diplomatic relations with countries with whom it has shared interests and goals.

When “your strategic partner starts with the overlapping claims, there’s more room to have a reasonable dialogue rather than reacting with the national interest, separate national interest,” the Filipino leader said.

According to local media reports, when officials from the Philippines and Vietnam met earlier this year, they agreed in a joint statement to focus on the South China Sea, expressing concern about China’s “massive reclamation activities” in the area.

No date for signing the pact has been set. However, “We’re actually just defining what it is … We’re working out the details,” Aquino explained.

For the Filipino president, a bilateral agreement with Vietnam (or with any other strategic partner like the US and Japan) should not be construed as anti-Chinese.

“I can assure them [the Chinese] that that [riling China] is not a priority with me,” he said. On the contrary, he insisted that stability in the South China Sea is in China’s economic interests, since 40 per cent of world trade goes through it.

“I don’t see the logic of their move,” he said speaking about China’s recent actions. “There’s a certain downside anytime they decide that ‘we want this, we want that’,” and then “just go ahead and do it,” and expect “everybody will say, please do so. You’re welcome to it.”

“I don’t think that will be the world reaction," he noted. In fact, on 30 March, the Filipino government turned to a UN tribunal to challenge Beijing’s ‘cow tongue’ claims in the disputed areas.

China has refused to take part in the proceedings. A decision could be delivered within six months or by early next year.

Even assuming that an agreement with Beijing were possible and his government and China came to a bilateral agreement on the issue, Aquino noted that any deal would be next to useless because there are four other claimants besides the Philippines and China. “How can we have an agreement binding on the other four?” he said.

In a sign of increasing tensions, the Philippines and the United States on Monday began joint military training exercises in the South China Sea.

A total of 6,656 US soldiers and 76 aircraft along with 5,023 Filipino troops and 13 aircraft are participating in the activity.

PHILIPPINES – VIETNAM South China Sea: Vietnam offers the Philippines a deal to contain China - Asia News
 
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I am surprised and disappointed that he reveals the proposed deal at so early stage. that is not wise as that gives the chinese time to counter and sabotage the pact.

My brother @Viet, stop being so quick to criticise other people (is this a German thing?). President Aquino haven't revealed anything, other than that VietNam and the Philippines are working together to deal with China in the SCS dispute... and who doesn't already know that?????

President Aquino hasn't revealed anything new at all.

If anything, it confirms that VietNam has not backed down from the SCS dispute, like some members here think. VN is the one working hard and taking the initiative to counter China in the SCS dispute.
 
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What would you expect from our president that has some mental issues?

ha ha ha, ano pa ba , kawawa naman shya dahil walang buhok shya sa ulo nya. Segurado ko na apektado shya dahil na kalbo na...ha ha ha...
 
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ha ha ha, ano pa ba , kawawa naman shya dahil walang buhok shya sa ulo nya. Segurado ko na apektado shya dahil na kalbo na...ha ha ha...

Kaya tawag sa kanya ay "panot" XD

Anyways, you will only hear him blaming others through the means of making unnecessary references and only a year left before he leaves but look what happened to the Philippines - it is like what happened back from 1986 to 1992, the only missing is a volcanic eruption.
 
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Kaya tawag sa kanya ay "panot" XD


Ha ha ha ha ..!!

Anyways, you will only hear him blaming others through the means of making unnecessary references and only a year left before he leaves but look what happened to the Philippines - it is like what happened back from 1986 to 1992, the only missing is a volcanic eruption.

Tama ka djan ! Sayang naman diba dahil yung mga policy failures at policy success ay responsibilidad sa Pangulo sa Pilipinas. Dapat hindi shya mag blame, ang lahat ay responsiblidad sa Pangulo. Part naman yan sa "job duty" diba?
 
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What would you expect from our president that has some mental issues?
bro, are you serious?

My brother @Viet, stop being so quick to criticise other people (is this a German thing?). President Aquino haven't revealed anything, other than that VietNam and the Philippines are working together to deal with China in the SCS dispute... and who doesn't already know that?????

President Aquino hasn't revealed anything new at all.

If anything, it confirms that VietNam has not backed down from the SCS dispute, like some members here think. VN is the one working hard and taking the initiative to counter China in the SCS dispute.
the surprise moment is gone.
I bet chinese media now will increase their workforce working overtime to spread nonsense and propaganda again the pact.
 
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bro, are you serious?


the surprise moment is gone.
I bet chinese media now will increase their workforce working overtime to spread nonsense and propaganda again the pact.

Rumors persist that he has some mental issue but considering some events like during the Typhoon Haiyan aftermath when a shop owner complained about lawless thievery and wondering if the government will do something, his reply goes like this - "but your still alive, right?"

Also, just look at his reaction here.

PNoy-enjoying-computer-game-in-Cupertino.jpg


Do note that our president is above 40 of age.
 
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the surprise moment is gone.
I bet chinese media now will increase their workforce working overtime to spread nonsense and propaganda again the pact.

What surprise? Everyone knows that the Philippines and Viet Nam is working together behind the scene. We've even mentioned this PH-VN pact plenty of times on PDF. It's not a secret.

Last december both VN and the US issued official statements supporting the Philippines on the same day.... do you really think that was a coincident? or is that a hint at a PH-VN-US pact already agreed upon?

I'll tell you something, this "revelation" made by Prez Aquino is a deliberate political statement and a real pact is already sealed, and not under negotiation like what he wanted us to believe.

Rumors persist that he has some mental issue but considering some events like during the Typhoon Haiyan aftermath when a shop owner complained about lawless thievery and wondering if the government will do something, his reply goes like this - "but your still alive, right?"

Also, just look at his reaction here.

PNoy-enjoying-computer-game-in-Cupertino.jpg


Do note that our president is above 40 of age.

Do you know that in the US, the average age of a gamer is 35?

http://www.austindailyherald.com/2015/04/more-proof-video-games-are-mainstream/

The latest statistics on gaming came out last week from the Entertainment Software Association, one of the biggest lobbying groups for the video game industry.
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Guess what kind of people play games? The average age of female gamers is 43 years old, while the average male gamer is 35, and the average gamer overall is 35 years old. About 56 percent of gamers identify as male, while 44 percent identify as female.

President Aquino enjoying a video game is perfectly normal.
 
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Do you know that in the US, the average age of a gamer is 35?

http://www.austindailyherald.com/2015/04/more-proof-video-games-are-mainstream/



President Aquino enjoying a video game is perfectly normal.

But remember that he is running a nation and looking at his track record.

He fails in improving the country, one of which is removing the economic restriction that only benefits the upper class and oligarchy and live a decadent life while forcing the middle class to leave the country as "professional" OFWs, causing significant brain drain and the lower class leave the country as domestic helpers or stay in the country and commit crimes.

He supported a cybercrime bill that includes an obsolete law called "libel" yet the "freedom on information" proposal is always delayed.

His response to the aftermath of Typhoon Haiyan was criticized because the mayor of Tacloban city is related to the Marcos family and he has a personal vendetta with them at the expense of the people of the Philippines. PNoy admits wanting to exact revenge on Marcos after Ninoy’s death | News | GMA News Online
 
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But remember that he is running a nation and looking at his track record.

He fails in improving the country, one of which is removing the economic restriction that only benefits the upper class and oligarchy and live a decadent life while forcing the middle class to leave the country as "professional" OFWs, causing significant brain drain and the lower class leave the country as domestic helpers or stay in the country and commit crimes.

He supported a cybercrime bill that includes an obsolete law called "libel" yet the "freedom on information" proposal is always delayed.

His response to the aftermath of Typhoon Haiyan was criticized because the mayor of Tacloban city is related to the Marcos family and he has a personal vendetta with them at the expense of the people of the Philippines. PNoy admits wanting to exact revenge on Marcos after Ninoy’s death | News | GMA News Online

Have faith in PNoy!!!!!!!!!!

VN loves PNoy! He is a good ally. VN do the planning and he be the spokesman.
 
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But remember that he is running a nation and looking at his track record.

He fails in improving the country, one of which is removing the economic restriction that only benefits the upper class and oligarchy and live a decadent life while forcing the middle class to leave the country as "professional" OFWs, causing significant brain drain and the lower class leave the country as domestic helpers or stay in the country and commit crimes.

He supported a cybercrime bill that includes an obsolete law called "libel" yet the "freedom on information" proposal is always delayed.

His response to the aftermath of Typhoon Haiyan was criticized because the mayor of Tacloban city is related to the Marcos family and he has a personal vendetta with them at the expense of the people of the Philippines. PNoy admits wanting to exact revenge on Marcos after Ninoy’s death | News | GMA News Online

I read that the politician likely to win the next election one year from now wants to make a deal with china, is that true?
 
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I read that the politician likely to win the next election one year from now wants to make a deal with china, is that true?

Sadly one of the possible candidate (current Vice President Jejomar Binay) has a "soft" stance towards China, barking the same thing some PDF CN members here - China has money so it is logical to kowtow to China.
A Philippines flip-flop on maritime boundaries

Irony is that this said candidate has a case on our supreme court due to corruption issues. The worst part is that this candidate has been mayor of a city (and basically the economic "center" of the PH) for sometime that he has no experience towards foreign policy.
 
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Sadly one of the possible candidate (current Vice President Jejomar Binay) has a "soft" stance towards China, barking the same thing some PDF CN members here - China has money so it is logical to kowtow to China.
A Philippines flip-flop on maritime boundaries

Irony is that this said candidate has a case on our supreme court due to corruption issues. The worst part is that this candidate has been mayor of a city (and basically the economic "center" of the PH) for sometime that he has no experience towards foreign policy.

Too bad, china will buy him off to get him to agree to whatever china wants, same as Arroyo.

@Viet @Yorozuya This is a big issue, if Philippines flip flops about SCS, then much of the work that Vietnam is doing with PH will go to waste and VN's position becomes more isolated.
Read the article above, A Philippines flip-flop on maritime boundaries

This may help explain why USA in so passive in PH SCS like in Scarborough Shoal.
 
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All facts come to my mind as, US and Vietnam connected together by PH joint.
PH could get benefit from that

Your leader look cooler than our leaders. Let be optimistic.

But remember that he is running a nation and looking at his track record.

He fails in improving the country, one of which is removing the economic restriction that only benefits the upper class and oligarchy and live a decadent life while forcing the middle class to leave the country as "professional" OFWs, causing significant brain drain and the lower class leave the country as domestic helpers or stay in the country and commit crimes.

He supported a cybercrime bill that includes an obsolete law called "libel" yet the "freedom on information" proposal is always delayed.

His response to the aftermath of Typhoon Haiyan was criticized because the mayor of Tacloban city is related to the Marcos family and he has a personal vendetta with them at the expense of the people of the Philippines. PNoy admits wanting to exact revenge on Marcos after Ninoy’s death | News | GMA News Online
 
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