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Video Hints at Executions by Pakistanis

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An Internet video showing men in Pakistani military uniforms executing six young men in civilian clothes has heightened concerns about unlawful killings by Pakistani soldiers supported by the United States, American officials said.

The authenticity of the five-and-a-half-minute video, which shows the killing of the six men — some of whom appear to be teenagers, blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs — has not been formally verified by the American government. The Pakistani military said it was faked by militants.

But American officials, who did not want to be identified because of the explosive nature of the video, said it appeared to be credible, as did retired American military officers and intelligence analysts who have viewed it.

After viewing the graphic video on Wednesday, an administration official said: “There are things you can fake, and things you can’t fake. You can’t fake this.”

The director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Leon E. Panetta, who was in Islamabad on Wednesday on a previously scheduled visit, was expected to raise the subject of the video with the chief of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and the head of the Pakistani spy agency, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, American officials said.

The video adds to reports under review at the State Department and the Pentagon that Pakistani Army units have summarily executed prisoners and civilians in areas where they have opened offensives against the Taliban, administration officials said.

The video appears to have been taken in the Swat Valley, where the Pakistani military opened a campaign last year to push back Taliban insurgents. The effort was widely praised by American officials and financed in large part by the United States.

The reports could have serious implications for relations between the militaries. American law requires that the United States cut off financing to units of foreign militaries that are found to have committed gross violations of human rights.

But never has that law been applied to so strategic a partner as Pakistan, whose military has received more than $10 billion in American support since 2001 for its cooperation in fighting militants from the Taliban and Al Qaeda based inside the country.

The State Department spokesman, Philip J. Crowley, called the images “horrifying.” He said the American ambassador, Anne W. Patterson, had raised the issue with the Pakistani government and was awaiting a response. “We are determined to investigate it,” he said.

The spokesman for the Pakistani Army, Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, dismissed the video as part of a propaganda campaign by jihadists to defame the Pakistani Army. “No Pakistan Army soldier or officer has been involved in activity of this sort,” he said.

A senior Pakistani intelligence officer, who declined to be named, dismissed the video as a staged “drama.”

The Pakistani military came under strong pressure from the United States to make the drive into the Swat region. Having since expanded operations to South Waziristan, the military has found itself in a counterinsurgency campaign in which it has struggled to maintain local support and weed out insurgents and their sympathizers from the population.

The video, apparently taken surreptitiously with a cellphone, shows six young men being lined up near an abandoned building surrounded by foliage. As the soldiers prepare to shoot, one soldier asks the commander, a heavily bearded man with the short hair typical of a military haircut: “One by one, or together?” He replies, “Together.”

A burst of gunfire erupts. The young men crumple to the ground. Some, still alive and wounded, groan. Then a soldier approaches the heap of bodies, and fires rounds into each man at short range to finish the job.

The men doing the shooting wear Pakistani Army uniforms and appear to be using G-3 rifles, standard issue for the Pakistani Army and rarely used by insurgents, according to several Pakistanis who watched the video.

The soldiers also speak Urdu, the language of the Pakistani Army, and use the word “Sahib” when addressing their commander, a polite form for Mr., which is uncommon among the Taliban.

The question of extrajudicial killings is particularly sensitive for Pentagon officials, who have tried in visits to Pakistan and through increased financing to improve their often-tense relationship with the Pakistani Army.

But growing word of such incidents in recent months has led to an internal debate at the State Department and the Pentagon over whether the reports are credible enough to warrant cutting off funds to Pakistani Army units, American officials said.

Not least of the concerns is keeping the Pakistani Army as an ally. Pentagon officials, already frustrated at Pakistan’s refusal to take on Taliban militants who cross into Afghanistan to fight American forces, fear that raising the question of human rights will sour the relationship.

“What if the Pakistanis walk away — is there any option?” was a question uppermost at the Pentagon, a senior administration official involved in the debate said.

Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont and sponsor of the law that would require withholding money, said Wednesday that anyone who had seen the video would “be shocked.”

If the video was found to be authentic, the law could be imposed, he said.

Currently, the United States spends about $2 billion a year on the Pakistani military, including funds specifically designated for antiterrorism operations, which the Pentagon has said it would like the Pakistanis to expand.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, raised the reports of extrajudicial killings with the head of the Pakistani Army, General Kayani, in meetings this year, a senior administration official said.

One unresolved question, the official said, was how seriously General Kayani took the killings, and whether he was willing to punish the soldiers involved.

Some reports, particularly from Waziristan, that the State Department was reviewing were increasingly specific and credible, the senior official said.

“There is a particular set of incidents that have been investigated with great accuracy, and, we believe, lead to a pattern,” the official said.

The State Department briefed members of the Senate about the issue this summer, and was set to do so again next month, an indication of the rising concern on Capitol Hill, according to one Congressional staff member.

The episode in the video may be just the most glaring to surface. The Pakistani military is believed to have detained as many as 3,000 people in makeshift prisons in the region of its operations. Reluctant to turn them over to Pakistan’s undependable courts or to grant them amnesty, the problem of what to do with the detainees has grown pressing.

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said in June that 282 extrajudicial killings by the army had taken place in the Swat region in the past year.

A Pakistani intelligence official, who did not want to be identified discussing the issue, said he had seen other such videos and heard reports of executions larger than the one in the video, which was posted on the Facebook page of a group that calls itself the Pashtuns’ International Association.

Two retired Pakistani senior army officers said they believed that the video was credible.

“It’s authentic,” said Javed Hussain, a former Special Forces brigadier. “They are soldiers in Swat. The victims appear to be militants or their sympathizers.” The executioners were infantry soldiers, he said. “It’s shocking, not expected of a professional, disciplined force.”

A retired lieutenant general, Talat Masood, also said the video seemed credible. “It will have a serious setback in the effort for winning the hearts and minds so crucial in this type of warfare,” he said.
 
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Americans use fighter jets and drop bombs from 30,000 feet and kill several civilians and call it a mistake.How is a bullet in the head any different from dropping a bomb from 20,000 feet?For all we know these could be militants who were silenced.American Hypocrisy does not get any better.
 
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^^^^This was on 29th September NYTimes edition.

There is a link to the video on the site which is hosted on facebook for those interested. Its graphic and I don't think needed to post the video link here.
 
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Well i am happy on this report.....I was expecting them to say "That these men were trying to make a deal between taliban and US forces thats why PA shot them.." :lol:
 
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An Internet video showing men in Pakistani military uniforms executing six young men in civilian clothes has heightened concerns about unlawful killings by Pakistani soldiers supported by the United States, American officials said.

why isnt there any video made when US Army is harassing or killing civilians even if there is, it is buried
 
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watched the video..dont think its fake..but if they r real taliban then good riddance...americans should be the last to dictate anyone on war crime or human rights..
 
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Summary executions by military without going through the process of judiciary is a dangerous precedence. This can be used at random by anyone who has enemisity with his neighbours. I remember 1971 war in Dhaka. These terrorists (?) could have been held captive in jail instead.
 
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why isnt there any video made when US Army is harassing or killing civilians even if there is, it is buried

plenty of them are there where they are giggling "light em up" a famous one where apache killed an AP reporter along with other civilans in Iraq
 
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Note: please note that I am just thinking loud and wanted to share this video with a different angle, feel free to disagree or criticise me but do elaborate. despite watching videos many times I cant decide in definite terms if it is genuine or not. I admit it as my short coming

I have managed to see the video and I have mixed emotions

Whether the video is real or not

On one hand
As a human being I am distressed
As a Muslim I am sad that unarmed , blind folded prisoners are executed
As a patriot I am sad that this is happening in my country

On the other Hand
I sneer & grind my teeth thinking, teaches you well you blo*dy Taliban.
Remembering what Taliban did to thousands of civilians & soldiers. When headless bodies hanging by the poles were a regular spectacle in Sawat valley.

Specially in recent time what they did (during Ramadan) during the prayers and pro-Palestinian processions in Quetta & Karachi just makes my blood boil. And I say well done Pakistan Army.

On a Lighter note
(please forgive me) the aiming and shooting of the “alleged” soldiers is appalling. they are missing by yards although they are shooting hardly from 30 or 40 odd yards or even less.

Just proves the point that this high recoil rifle has to go and be replaced with a lighter/ less recoiling but potent rifle. Whats the point of having a gun where 7 out of 10 rounds are going to be missed. Rather have a lighter round which has more chances of hitting. If anyone has doubts about the capability of 5.5mm round then fancy imagining taking it on the neck or head?

Some Analysis
Whats more. Despite firing about half their magazines. Their alleged victims are still reeling with pain and muffled cries same when our students gets slapped by the teachers. Here we are talking about 7.62mm bullets. Voice (acting) is not very convincing. ,…Moving on

Whispers: What about all that foreplay? They are being lined up very gently instead of pushing and dragging. specially in about midway (of the clip) a bearded guy is stopping in front of every single capture whispering something. (as if telling them when there is gun fire how and where to fall).
Yes the last part is chilling when a soldier steps up to the lying victims and finishes them off with close fire followed by another one.

Chatter: Now about that chatter.. “Abid.., tell Tanvir saab that 2i’ saab is calling”. Yes the accent is Punjabi and that how a Sepoy (private) would address an NCO/ JCO with saab suffix and rank name or role name for commissioned officer like CO saab, BM saab , DQ saab. Major saab. G1, G2 or G3 saab etc etc. yes this chatter helps in the argument that the clip is genuine. Or it can be easily edited into the clip without much fuss.

Dying: The falling “sequence” of the targets was very convincing except 2nd guy in camel colour clothes from left side. There was no visible impact of bullets on him yet he bent and fell sideways looks like he fell and played dead. What doesn’t help here is our camera man managed to “recoil” his mobile far more than the G3 rifles while the shooting took place and all we see is the bullets hit the ground creating dust cloud near the feet of the targets.
 
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