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Vice Presidential Debate "They are a good way away"
Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., participate in the vice presidential debate , moderated by Martha Raddatz of ABC News, Thursday in Danville, Ky. October 11, 2012
"....MS. RADDATZ: Let's move to Iran. I'd actually like to move to Iran because there is really no bigger national security
REP. RYAN: Absolutely.
MS. RADDATZ: this country is facing. Both President Obama and Governor Romney have said they will prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, even if that means military action. Last week former Defense Secretary Bob Gates said a strike on Iran's facilities would not work and, quote, could prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations. Can the two of you be absolutely clear and specific to the American people how effective would a military strike be? Congressman Ryan.
REP. RYAN: We cannot allow Iran to gain a nuclear weapons capability.
Now, let's take a look at where we've gone come from. When Barack Obama was elected, they had enough fissile material, nuclear material, to make one bomb. Now they have enough for five. They're racing toward a nuclear weapon. They're four years closer toward a nuclear weapons capability. We've had four different sanctions at the U.N. on Iran, three from the Bush administration, one here. And the only reason we got it is because Russia watered it down and prevented the the sanctions from hitting the central bank.
Mitt Romney proposed these sanctions in 2007. In Congress, I've been fighting for these sanctions since 2009. The administration was blocking us every step of the way.
Only because we had strong bipartisan support for these tough sanctions were we able to overrule their objections and put them in spite of the administration. Imagine what would have happened if we had these sanctions in place earlier. You think Iran's not brazen? Look at what they're doing. They're stepping up their terrorist attacks. They tried a terrorist attack in the United States last year when they tried to blow up the Saudi ambassador at a restaurant in Washington, D.C.
And talk about credibility. When this administration says that all options are on the table, they send out senior administration officials that send all these mixed signals.
And so in order solve this peacefully, which is everybody's goal, you have to have the ayatollahs change their minds. Look at where they are. They're moving faster toward a nuclear weapon. It's because this administration has no credibility on this issue. It's because this administration watered down sanctions, delayed sanctions, tried to stop us from putting the tough sanctions in place. Now we have them in place because of Congress. They say the military option's on the table but it's not being viewed as credible, and the key is to do this peacefully, is to make sure that we have credibility. Under a Romney administration, we will have credibility on this issue.
MS. RADDATZ: Vice President Biden.
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: Incredible. (Chuckles.)
Look, imagine had we let the Republican Congress work out the sanctions. You think there's any possibility the entire world would have joined us, Russia and China, all of our allies? These are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions, period, period.
When Governor Romney's asked about it, he said, we got to keep these sanctions. When they said, well, you're talking about doing more, what are you are you you're going to go to war? Is that you want to do now?
REP. RYAN: We want to prevent war!
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: (Inaudible) and I the interesting thing is, how they're going to prevent war. How are they going to prevent war if they say that there's nothing more that we that they say we should do than what we've already done, number one?
And number two, with regard to the ability of the United States to take action militarily, it is it is not in my purview to talk about classified information.
But we feel quite confident we could deal a serious blow to the Iranians. But number two, the Iranians are the Israelis and the United States our military and intelligence communities are absolutely the same exact place in terms of how close how close the Iranians are to getting a nuclear weapon. They are a good way away. There is no difference between our view and theirs.
When my friend talks about fissile material, they have to take this highly enriched uranium, get it from 20 percent up. Then they have to be able to have something to put it in. There is no weapon that the Iranians have at this point. Both the Israelis and we know we'll know if they start the process of building a weapon. So all this bluster I keep hearing, all this loose talk what are they talking about? Are you talking about to be more credible? What what more can the president do? Stand before the United Nations, tell the whole world, directly communicate to the ayatollah: We will not let them acquire a nuclear weapon, period, unless he's talking about going to war...."
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The point is they do know that Iran doesn't seek to acquire nukes , he's admitting(vice president) that they are well aware that Iran as he said is a good way away from nuke, they said although Iran had enough material to make a bomb 4 years ago , it didn't so . So what are these all sanctions for ?
Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., participate in the vice presidential debate , moderated by Martha Raddatz of ABC News, Thursday in Danville, Ky. October 11, 2012
"....MS. RADDATZ: Let's move to Iran. I'd actually like to move to Iran because there is really no bigger national security
REP. RYAN: Absolutely.
MS. RADDATZ: this country is facing. Both President Obama and Governor Romney have said they will prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, even if that means military action. Last week former Defense Secretary Bob Gates said a strike on Iran's facilities would not work and, quote, could prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations. Can the two of you be absolutely clear and specific to the American people how effective would a military strike be? Congressman Ryan.
REP. RYAN: We cannot allow Iran to gain a nuclear weapons capability.
Now, let's take a look at where we've gone come from. When Barack Obama was elected, they had enough fissile material, nuclear material, to make one bomb. Now they have enough for five. They're racing toward a nuclear weapon. They're four years closer toward a nuclear weapons capability. We've had four different sanctions at the U.N. on Iran, three from the Bush administration, one here. And the only reason we got it is because Russia watered it down and prevented the the sanctions from hitting the central bank.
Mitt Romney proposed these sanctions in 2007. In Congress, I've been fighting for these sanctions since 2009. The administration was blocking us every step of the way.
Only because we had strong bipartisan support for these tough sanctions were we able to overrule their objections and put them in spite of the administration. Imagine what would have happened if we had these sanctions in place earlier. You think Iran's not brazen? Look at what they're doing. They're stepping up their terrorist attacks. They tried a terrorist attack in the United States last year when they tried to blow up the Saudi ambassador at a restaurant in Washington, D.C.
And talk about credibility. When this administration says that all options are on the table, they send out senior administration officials that send all these mixed signals.
And so in order solve this peacefully, which is everybody's goal, you have to have the ayatollahs change their minds. Look at where they are. They're moving faster toward a nuclear weapon. It's because this administration has no credibility on this issue. It's because this administration watered down sanctions, delayed sanctions, tried to stop us from putting the tough sanctions in place. Now we have them in place because of Congress. They say the military option's on the table but it's not being viewed as credible, and the key is to do this peacefully, is to make sure that we have credibility. Under a Romney administration, we will have credibility on this issue.
MS. RADDATZ: Vice President Biden.
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: Incredible. (Chuckles.)
Look, imagine had we let the Republican Congress work out the sanctions. You think there's any possibility the entire world would have joined us, Russia and China, all of our allies? These are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions, period, period.
When Governor Romney's asked about it, he said, we got to keep these sanctions. When they said, well, you're talking about doing more, what are you are you you're going to go to war? Is that you want to do now?
REP. RYAN: We want to prevent war!
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: (Inaudible) and I the interesting thing is, how they're going to prevent war. How are they going to prevent war if they say that there's nothing more that we that they say we should do than what we've already done, number one?
And number two, with regard to the ability of the United States to take action militarily, it is it is not in my purview to talk about classified information.
But we feel quite confident we could deal a serious blow to the Iranians. But number two, the Iranians are the Israelis and the United States our military and intelligence communities are absolutely the same exact place in terms of how close how close the Iranians are to getting a nuclear weapon. They are a good way away. There is no difference between our view and theirs.
When my friend talks about fissile material, they have to take this highly enriched uranium, get it from 20 percent up. Then they have to be able to have something to put it in. There is no weapon that the Iranians have at this point. Both the Israelis and we know we'll know if they start the process of building a weapon. So all this bluster I keep hearing, all this loose talk what are they talking about? Are you talking about to be more credible? What what more can the president do? Stand before the United Nations, tell the whole world, directly communicate to the ayatollah: We will not let them acquire a nuclear weapon, period, unless he's talking about going to war...."
Source
The point is they do know that Iran doesn't seek to acquire nukes , he's admitting(vice president) that they are well aware that Iran as he said is a good way away from nuke, they said although Iran had enough material to make a bomb 4 years ago , it didn't so . So what are these all sanctions for ?
