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USS Indianapolis discovered 18,000 feet below Pacific surface

By Emanuella Grinberg, CNN


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Debris from the USS Indianapolis was found August 18, 2017. Image from PaulAllen.com

(CNN)
- It's been 72 years since the USS Indianapolis went missing after a Japanese submarine torpedoed it in the final days of World War II.

A team of civilian researchers led by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen discovered the cruiser's wreckage Friday on the floor of the Pacific Ocean, 18,000 feet below the surface. The discovery brings a measure of closure to one of most tragic maritime disasters in US naval history.

"To be able to honor the brave men of the USS Indianapolis and their families through the discovery of a ship that played such a significant role in ending World War II is truly humbling," Allen said.

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The heavy cruiser USS Indianapolis.​

"As Americans, we all owe a debt of gratitude to the crew for their courage, persistence and sacrifice in the face of horrendous circumstances. While our search for the rest of the wreckage will continue, I hope everyone connected to this historic ship will feel some measure of closure at this discovery so long in coming."

The Indianapolis sank in 12 minutes, making it impossible for it to send a distress signal or deploy life-saving equipment. Before the attack, on July 30, 1945, it had just completed a secret mission delivering components of the atomic bomb used in Hiroshima that brought an end to the war in the Pacific, according to the Naval History and Heritage Command in Washington.

Most of the ship's 1,196 sailors and Marines survived the sinking only to succumb to exposure, dehydration, drowning and shark attacks. Only 316 survived, according to the US Navy. Of the survivors, 22 are alive today.

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Part of the crew of the USS Indianapolis prior to its sinking in July 1945.

'Lost in a sea of tears'

Michael William Emery, named after his uncle William Friend Emery, who perished in the sinking, said he was in shock that the wreckage had been found.

"I am filled with so much emotion. Part of me wanted the Indy to be found, part of me did not want it to be found. Memories of nightmares I had as a child trying to rescue my uncle and namesake William Friend Emery off of his ship are overwhelming me now," he said in quotes provided by Sara Vladic, a spokeswoman for a network of survivors.

Emery said he was thinking about those who loved his uncle and had passed before the ship's discovery: "After 72 years, the Indy might've finally been found, but I'm still lost in a sea of tears."

Earl O'Dell Henry Jr., son of Lt. Cmdr. Earl O'Dell Henry, who was the Indianapolis's dentist, said his family regarded the ship as his father's burial site.

"My reaction was just an overwhelming numbness, followed by deep sobbing and crying. This despite I have anticipated the possibility of this news for some time. My wife and I both started crying uncontrollably. While shaving, I noticed that my eyes were the reddest I have ever seen them. I don't think I have cried this hard in my adult life," he said.

He said the ship's finding would have broken his mother's heart.

"My mother would be torn to pieces if she were still living. She did not want them to ever find the ship, partially because she thought the ship would be disturbed (which I do not think will happen). But I am glad she does not have to cry today," he said.

Barb and Dave Stamm -- relatives of sinking survivor Florian Stamm -- said they were happy to hear of the discovery.

"The spirit of the Indy is awake and will be memorialized forever. Those 'Lost at Sea' have been found," they said.

"Even in the worst defeats and disasters there is valor and sacrifice that deserves to never be forgotten," Sam Cox, director of the Naval History and Heritage Command, said. "They can serve as inspiration to current and future sailors enduring situations of mortal peril.

There are also lessons learned, and in the case of the Indianapolis, lessons re-learned, that need to be preserved and passed on, so the same mistakes can be prevented, and lives saved."

Others have tried to locate the Indianapolis before. The wreck was located by the expedition crew of Allen's Research Vessel Petrel, a 250-foot vessel equipped with state-of-the-art equipment capable of diving to 6,000 meters, or 3 1/2 miles.

The 13-person team will continue to survey the site and tour of the wreckage in compliance with relevant US law for searching war graves.

Research surfaced in 2016 that led to a new search area to the west of the original presumed position. Richard Hulver, a historian with the Naval History and Heritage Command, identified a naval landing craft that recorded a sighting of Indianapolis hours before it was hit. The information led the research team to a new position and estimated search area for Allen's team.

Allen has had another search success. In 2015, after an eight-year hunt, his team of researchers found the Japanese battleship Musashi in the Philippines' Sibuyan Sea.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/19/us/uss-indianapolis-wreckage-found/index.html
 
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18,000 ft is pretty deep. And what are the chances of finding a piece of debris that actually has the ship's name on it?

The Pacific War was full of incredible stories, this one being one of many and in the top of the list. If also makes one think how would the war have turned out had the Indianapolis been sunk on its way to delivering the the first atom bomb instead of on it's way back.

Can't help but think of Quint in Jaws every time I hear the name of that ship.

Another incredible story involving the Japanese submarines was their purported "midget" submarines that infiltrated Pearl Harbor during the attack. Those were certainly one-way missions.
 
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18,000 ft is pretty deep. And what are the chances of finding a piece of debris that actually has the ship's name on it?

The Pacific War was full of incredible stories, this one being one of many and in the top of the list. If also makes one think how would the war have turned out had the Indianapolis been sunk on its way to delivering the the first atom bomb instead of on it's way back.

Can't help but think of Quint in Jaws every time I hear the name of that ship.

Another incredible story involving the Japanese submarines was their purported "midget" submarines that infiltrated Pearl Harbor during the attack. Those were certainly one-way missions.
well chance of finding parts of the ship with the name painted on it after 72 years is dim but if the sip carried container of spare part in case of damage then chance of finding those parts are a lot higher.
 
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well chance of finding parts of the ship with the name painted on it after 72 years is dim but if the sip carried container of spare part in case of damage then chance of finding those parts are a lot higher.
well chance of finding parts of the ship with the name painted on it after 72 years is dim but if the sip carried container of spare part in case of damage then chance of finding those parts are a lot higher.

What are the chances that the stamped lettering is still that clear and visible and shows no signs of deterioration? It's pretty incredible considering the environment, salt content, sand etc. Although at that depth I don't think there is much current to move sand off the bottom up and about to scratch off that writing which looks like it was stamped yesterday. Must be some very toxic paint to survive that long and still be that unfazed.

They don't mention if they actually found significant portions of the wreckage. The Titanic sunk in 13,000 feet of water but I think it's mostly in 2 pieces IIRC, so wonder if they did find actual portions of the hull in this case but still can't show it because it's a maritime grave, or did it break up and scatter for miles and they still have to find more.
 
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What are the chances that the stamped lettering is still that clear and visible and shows no signs of deterioration? It's pretty incredible considering the environment, salt content, sand etc. Although at that depth I don't think there is much current to move sand off the bottom up and about to scratch off that writing which looks like it was stamped yesterday. Must be some very toxic paint to survive that long and still be that unfazed.

They don't mention if they actually found significant portions of the wreckage. The Titanic sunk in 13,000 feet of water but I think it's mostly in 2 pieces IIRC, so wonder if they did find actual portions of the hull in this case but still can't show it because it's a maritime grave, or did it break up and scatter for miles and they still have to find more.
The point is the depth, yes there is life at that dept but far less than let say 2km less of depth that titanic sink . it make a lot of difference .
About the part I believe the parts are scattered around the sea bed .just think about it the ship sank for around 6km its like 6km fall in slow motion there was a lot of time for ship to break apart and scatter around.
 
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The point is the depth, yes there is life at that dept but far less than let say 2km less of depth that titanic sink . it make a lot of difference .
About the part I believe the parts are scattered around the sea bed .just think about it the ship sank for around 6km its like 6km fall in slow motion there was a lot of time for ship to break apart and scatter around.

IIRC it got hit by 2 of the 6 torpedoes that Hoshimoto fired at it and if it went down in 12 minutes and witnesses said its bow was pointing up while its stern took it down first, maybe it might not be broken up into several pieces.
They probably did find the hull since it has to be much easier to detect and spot for size than scattered spare parts.
 
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IIRC it got hit by 2 of the 6 torpedoes that Hoshimoto fired at it and if it went down in 12 minutes and witnesses said its bow was pointing up while its stern took it down first, maybe it might not be broken up into several pieces.
They probably did find the hull since it has to be much easier to detect and spot for size than scattered spare parts.
Probably but I doubt it went down in one piece , I'm ready to get when it reach buttom of the sea it was ripped in several piece and they detected structure those parts .
 
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