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Employers across the country are worried that workers are getting less done — and there's evidence they're right to be spooked.

In the first half of 2022, productivity — the measure of how much output in goods and services an employee can produce in an hour — plunged by the sharpest rate on record going back to 1947, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The productivity plunge is perplexing, because productivity took off to levels not seen in decades when the coronavirus pandemic forced an overnight switch to remote work, leading some economists to suggest that the pandemic might spark longer-term growth. It also raises new questions about the shift to hybrid schedules and remote work, as employees have made the case that flexibility helped them work more efficiently. And it comes at a time when "quiet quitting" — doing only what's expected and no more — is resonating, especially with younger workers.


Productivity is strong in manufacturing, but it's down elsewhere in the private sector, according to Diego Comin, professor of economics at Dartmouth College. He noted that productivity is particularly tricky to gauge for knowledge workers, whose contributions aren't as easy to measure.

"It is strange," Comin said. "The data is very odd these past couple of quarters in so many different ways. It's hard to even tell a coherent story."

Tech CEOs such as Google's Sundar Pichai and Meta's Mark Zuckerberg have been pledging to boost productivity, calling out low performers and asking their workers to do more. Meanwhile, Microsoft chief executive Satya Nadella said his company coined the term "productivity paranoia" to describe employers' anxieties about whether their employees are working hard enough.

Leaders are under heightened pressure to boost employee performance as firms try to establish a post-pandemic normal, said Kathy Kacher, founder of Career/Life Alliance Services, who advises corporate executives.

"The leaders are not seeing what they want, and they're starting to get anxious," Kacher said.

Many employers have started using software to track employee activity. But Nadella has argued that the technology can have a deleterious effect on trust and employee engagement.


"Ultimately, for the business, these tools are about really helping their employees thrive," Nadella told Bloomberg in September. "The only way a business is successful and productive is if employees feel that sense of empowerment, that sense of energy and connection for the company's mission and are doing meaningful work."

Managers today "might feel especially under the gun" to show that employees are pulling their weight, said Elaine Richards, chief operating officer of software company Basecamp. But they should trust their employees to get work done in ways that fit into their lives.

"I promise you, no CEO has ever said they'd prefer activity over results," Richards said. "The only thing productivity paranoia delivers is a lot of activity."

Critical to a well-oiled economy, productivity is also the ultimate driver of standards of living: Higher productivity eventually translates to more goods and services available at a lower cost, and increased wages for workers, meaning higher productivity also combats inflation.


When productivity slows, economic growth dwindles. The drop-off is particularly concerning to economists and employers as the U.S. economy flirts with recession. It's unfolding as employers struggle to find workers, amid a national tug-of-war over the future of offices. Burnout is high. Engagement is low. People are working more hours, but they're doing less with them.

"No one knows or will know" what is causing the drop-off in productivity for some time, said economist Lawrence H. Summers, president emeritus of Harvard University and former treasury secretary. But it could have something to do with the fact that many employees "were working unsustainably hard" in 2020 and 2021, Summers said.

Some workers are paring back their efforts.

"There's a highly empowered workforce that was engaged in a certain amount of quiet quitting," Summers said. That's creating "a certain amount of absenteeism on and off the job" that is probably leading to lower productivity, he said.

There are many theories as to why productivity has nose-dived. One has to do with the tight labor market.

Employees gained substantial leverage amid the labor shortage, with many exercising their power by participating in the "Great Resignation" or setting more boundaries at work through quiet quitting.

Companies are often losing high performers who are finding jobs with higher wages and more flexibility, said Sinem Buber, lead economist at ZipRecruiter. Replacing them is tough and training new hires is costly and time consuming.

Another theory is that all workers are just in a productivity funk.

Since the pandemic started, "the link between hard work and reward has been broken" for many workers, Buber said, resulting in "curbed ambition." Workers are probably encountering more leniency about producing less goods and services, because it's too hard for employers to replace them.

"People are missing their work hours, they're showing up late for their shifts, but companies can't do anything about it because they know it is so hard to replace those workers right now," Buber said. "Back in 2019, the policy was one strike and you're out, I'll get a better person to do the job. Right now it's 10 strikes, maybe you'll be out."

Mentions of burnout are up 42 percent in employee reviews on career site Glassdoor, compared with 2019 data, said chief economist Aaron Terrazas. Mentions of overwork are up 12 percent.

"You have to expect that takes a toll on people's productivity," Terrazas said.

This year's productivity decline comes after a strong 2021. In the first quarter of last year, worker productivity grew 4.3 percent, one of the highest rates in years, according to the Labor Department. That growth rate slowed the following quarter to 2.3 percent, which was still nearly double the feeble productivity rate increases the nation experienced in the decade after the 2007-2008 financial crisis.

Much of that boost probably was the effect of the coronavirus recession, said Gerald Cohen, chief economist at the Kenan Institute of Private Enterprise, a business policy think tank.

With low performers usually the first to be laid off, the output of the remaining employees rose as they picked up the work previously done by their former colleagues, Cohen said. Technological innovations in the shift to remote work also helped.

Rising productivity is a key lever against inflation, as workers producing more with less allows for relief from rising prices. Another factor in the productivity slump could be a combination of inflation and the fallout from the Federal Reserve's interest rate hikes, Cohen said.

"The question is how much does inflation impact the existing production mix and business decisions on hiring, training and investment, which impacts productivity," Cohen said. "Generally, inflation has a negative impact on short-term productivity, though the longer-run is more ambiguous."

Productivity tends to move in cycles of 10 to 20 years, Cohen said. Before the pandemic, the economy had just started to shake off a productivity lull that had hung around since the Great Recession. Now it looks likely that the weak trend will continue through the first half of 2023.

There is no shortage of troubles that might be weighing on productivity: Labor dynamics are still weighing on businesses, as are continued supply chain hiccups and the war in Ukraine. Then there's "the very open question" of how remote work is impacting worker productivity, Cohen said.

“There’s a lot of productivity that comes from people interacting with each other, not just in a formal meeting but in the hallway, around the water cooler,” Cohen said. “That’s extremely hard to measure, but it’s a really important factor.”

Outside the United States, other nations, such as France, Germany and Canada, have also seen productivity slow down, said Klaas de Vries, senior economist with the Conference Board. In a sense, the world is seeing a return to pre-pandemic levels, but he expects productivity to decline further in the coming months, with many economists forecasting a recession in 2023.

A recession next year may not have the "cleansing" effect on productivity that generally accompanies a downturn, de Vries said, because companies may be hesitant to resort to mass layoffs in such a tight labor market. This time, there's a risk a recession could slow productivity further.
 
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I don't know about others, but my workload has doubled since the pandemic...

Also, the productivity is down in the blue collar jobs cause they are not getting paid enough. Inflation is through the roof and gov't assistance is just enough to get by, no incentive to work...
 
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“There’s a lot of productivity that comes from people interacting with each other, not just in a formal meeting but in the hallway, around the water cooler,” Cohen said.
I think everyone can agree that working at home = less productivity, too much temptation/distraction on the side
 
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U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is sure why​

 
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From what I observed in my surroundings, I would say it can attributed to a combination of high turnover rate and 'quiet quitting'.

High turnover rate - The labor market has been very tight and workers are job-hopping around. Employee who remained have to mentor new hires and deal with the increased BAU work resulting from people leaving which has been lasting for quite awhile. This is bound to affect productivity.

'Quiet quitting' - Employees especially millennials have been recalibrating their priorities in life and is now placing more emphasis on work-life balance. They are pushing back against increased work load and work only within defined working hours. Due to the tight labor market and high turnover rate, employees are currently having a greater bargaining power. "Piss me off and I will be the next to job-hop" is quite a prevalent attitude, and honestly I share this sentiment to some extent lol.
 
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From what I observed in my surroundings, I would say it can attributed to a combination of high turnover rate and 'quiet quitting'.

High turnover rate - The labor market has been very tight and workers are job-hopping around. Employee who remained have to mentor new hires and deal with the increased BAU work resulting from people leaving which has been lasting for quite awhile. This is bound to affect productivity.

'Quiet quitting' - Employees especially millennials have been recalibrating their priorities in life and is now placing more emphasis on work-life balance. They are pushing back against increased work load and work only within defined working hours. Due to the tight labor market and high turnover rate, employees are currently having a greater bargaining power. "Piss me off and I will be the next to job-hop" is quite a prevalent attitude, and honestly I share this sentiment to some extent lol.
Labor market is not tight. Most big tech companies are laying off 10%+ of their workforce and those that don't plan layoffs are in hiring freezes. My company recently put out an opening for a PM and we got 200 resumes within 2 days.
 
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Maybe in some companies the productivity is down but not in mine. With everybody at home with virtual desktops nobody misses early or late teleconference meetings. The day start/end times are blurred with no commuting to the office.

People think nothing of pinging me at 9pm with a question knowing i can just walk over to my computer and look at it just as if it was 9am. They know I don't have to get up early for the morning commute so they ping me all the way up until midnight. It isn't unusual for 5 of us to be in a teleconference at 10pm.

At 8am it starts all over again. For others it starts before 7am.

You guys wonder why I post at odd hours...well it's because I'm up at odd hours.
 
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Maybe in some companies the productivity is down but not in mine. With everybody at home with virtual desktops nobody misses early or late teleconference meetings. The day start/end times are blurred with no commuting to the office.

People think nothing of pinging me at 9pm with a question knowing i can just walk over to my computer and look at it just as if it was 9am. They know I don't have to get up early for the morning commute so they ping me all the way up until midnight. It isn't unusual for 5 of us to be in a teleconference at 10pm.

At 8am it starts all over again. For others it starts before 7am.

You guys wonder why I post at odd hours...well it's because I'm up at odd hours.
You sir need to confine work to 8 hrs a day. You better be compensated extra fir the extra work u doing fir employer…..
 
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Employers across the country are worried that workers are getting less done — and there's evidence they're right to be spooked.

In the first half of 2022, productivity — the measure of how much output in goods and services an employee can produce in an hour — plunged by the sharpest rate on record going back to 1947, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The productivity plunge is perplexing, because productivity took off to levels not seen in decades when the coronavirus pandemic forced an overnight switch to remote work, leading some economists to suggest that the pandemic might spark longer-term growth. It also raises new questions about the shift to hybrid schedules and remote work, as employees have made the case that flexibility helped them work more efficiently. And it comes at a time when "quiet quitting" — doing only what's expected and no more — is resonating, especially with younger workers.


Productivity is strong in manufacturing, but it's down elsewhere in the private sector, according to Diego Comin, professor of economics at Dartmouth College. He noted that productivity is particularly tricky to gauge for knowledge workers, whose contributions aren't as easy to measure.

"It is strange," Comin said. "The data is very odd these past couple of quarters in so many different ways. It's hard to even tell a coherent story."

Tech CEOs such as Google's Sundar Pichai and Meta's Mark Zuckerberg have been pledging to boost productivity, calling out low performers and asking their workers to do more. Meanwhile, Microsoft chief executive Satya Nadella said his company coined the term "productivity paranoia" to describe employers' anxieties about whether their employees are working hard enough.

Leaders are under heightened pressure to boost employee performance as firms try to establish a post-pandemic normal, said Kathy Kacher, founder of Career/Life Alliance Services, who advises corporate executives.

"The leaders are not seeing what they want, and they're starting to get anxious," Kacher said.

Many employers have started using software to track employee activity. But Nadella has argued that the technology can have a deleterious effect on trust and employee engagement.


"Ultimately, for the business, these tools are about really helping their employees thrive," Nadella told Bloomberg in September. "The only way a business is successful and productive is if employees feel that sense of empowerment, that sense of energy and connection for the company's mission and are doing meaningful work."

Managers today "might feel especially under the gun" to show that employees are pulling their weight, said Elaine Richards, chief operating officer of software company Basecamp. But they should trust their employees to get work done in ways that fit into their lives.

"I promise you, no CEO has ever said they'd prefer activity over results," Richards said. "The only thing productivity paranoia delivers is a lot of activity."

Critical to a well-oiled economy, productivity is also the ultimate driver of standards of living: Higher productivity eventually translates to more goods and services available at a lower cost, and increased wages for workers, meaning higher productivity also combats inflation.


When productivity slows, economic growth dwindles. The drop-off is particularly concerning to economists and employers as the U.S. economy flirts with recession. It's unfolding as employers struggle to find workers, amid a national tug-of-war over the future of offices. Burnout is high. Engagement is low. People are working more hours, but they're doing less with them.

"No one knows or will know" what is causing the drop-off in productivity for some time, said economist Lawrence H. Summers, president emeritus of Harvard University and former treasury secretary. But it could have something to do with the fact that many employees "were working unsustainably hard" in 2020 and 2021, Summers said.

Some workers are paring back their efforts.

"There's a highly empowered workforce that was engaged in a certain amount of quiet quitting," Summers said. That's creating "a certain amount of absenteeism on and off the job" that is probably leading to lower productivity, he said.

There are many theories as to why productivity has nose-dived. One has to do with the tight labor market.

Employees gained substantial leverage amid the labor shortage, with many exercising their power by participating in the "Great Resignation" or setting more boundaries at work through quiet quitting.

Companies are often losing high performers who are finding jobs with higher wages and more flexibility, said Sinem Buber, lead economist at ZipRecruiter. Replacing them is tough and training new hires is costly and time consuming.

Another theory is that all workers are just in a productivity funk.

Since the pandemic started, "the link between hard work and reward has been broken" for many workers, Buber said, resulting in "curbed ambition." Workers are probably encountering more leniency about producing less goods and services, because it's too hard for employers to replace them.

"People are missing their work hours, they're showing up late for their shifts, but companies can't do anything about it because they know it is so hard to replace those workers right now," Buber said. "Back in 2019, the policy was one strike and you're out, I'll get a better person to do the job. Right now it's 10 strikes, maybe you'll be out."

Mentions of burnout are up 42 percent in employee reviews on career site Glassdoor, compared with 2019 data, said chief economist Aaron Terrazas. Mentions of overwork are up 12 percent.

"You have to expect that takes a toll on people's productivity," Terrazas said.

This year's productivity decline comes after a strong 2021. In the first quarter of last year, worker productivity grew 4.3 percent, one of the highest rates in years, according to the Labor Department. That growth rate slowed the following quarter to 2.3 percent, which was still nearly double the feeble productivity rate increases the nation experienced in the decade after the 2007-2008 financial crisis.

Much of that boost probably was the effect of the coronavirus recession, said Gerald Cohen, chief economist at the Kenan Institute of Private Enterprise, a business policy think tank.

With low performers usually the first to be laid off, the output of the remaining employees rose as they picked up the work previously done by their former colleagues, Cohen said. Technological innovations in the shift to remote work also helped.

Rising productivity is a key lever against inflation, as workers producing more with less allows for relief from rising prices. Another factor in the productivity slump could be a combination of inflation and the fallout from the Federal Reserve's interest rate hikes, Cohen said.

"The question is how much does inflation impact the existing production mix and business decisions on hiring, training and investment, which impacts productivity," Cohen said. "Generally, inflation has a negative impact on short-term productivity, though the longer-run is more ambiguous."

Productivity tends to move in cycles of 10 to 20 years, Cohen said. Before the pandemic, the economy had just started to shake off a productivity lull that had hung around since the Great Recession. Now it looks likely that the weak trend will continue through the first half of 2023.

There is no shortage of troubles that might be weighing on productivity: Labor dynamics are still weighing on businesses, as are continued supply chain hiccups and the war in Ukraine. Then there's "the very open question" of how remote work is impacting worker productivity, Cohen said.

“There’s a lot of productivity that comes from people interacting with each other, not just in a formal meeting but in the hallway, around the water cooler,” Cohen said. “That’s extremely hard to measure, but it’s a really important factor.”

Outside the United States, other nations, such as France, Germany and Canada, have also seen productivity slow down, said Klaas de Vries, senior economist with the Conference Board. In a sense, the world is seeing a return to pre-pandemic levels, but he expects productivity to decline further in the coming months, with many economists forecasting a recession in 2023.

A recession next year may not have the "cleansing" effect on productivity that generally accompanies a downturn, de Vries said, because companies may be hesitant to resort to mass layoffs in such a tight labor market. This time, there's a risk a recession could slow productivity further.
All thanks to the freedom and democracy preach by left wing. Who expect a hardshipless life while money fall from the no where and feed their lifestyle.

With foolish personal freedom and LGBTQ preach by American, they do not expect to make some sacriface in anything but selfish personal gain only.

American workforce are now expect to do the minimal while maximise everything for personal gain.

Don't ever go to USA and try setup a manufacturing plant. It will be suicide when you have to deal with the horrible work enthic and attitude of new gen of american workforce.

Maybe in some companies the productivity is down but not in mine. With everybody at home with virtual desktops nobody misses early or late teleconference meetings. The day start/end times are blurred with no commuting to the office.

People think nothing of pinging me at 9pm with a question knowing i can just walk over to my computer and look at it just as if it was 9am. They know I don't have to get up early for the morning commute so they ping me all the way up until midnight. It isn't unusual for 5 of us to be in a teleconference at 10pm.

At 8am it starts all over again. For others it starts before 7am.

You guys wonder why I post at odd hours...well it's because I'm up at odd hours.
Nice BS. We all know American are some of the laziest workforce.

Overpaid and underwork. They are second only to the French.
 
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Nice BS. We all know American are some of the laziest workforce.

Overpaid and underwork. They are second only to the French.

LOL! All the things you take for granted in your country like cars, planes, skyscrapers, computers, phones, elevators, plate glass windows, etc weren't dreamed up by your country of a billion hardworking people.

So if we suddenly look lax to you that's only because a generation ago most of us weren't in the rice fields behind an ox trying to make sure our families didn't starve to death.

When we were building our cities over 100 years ago we didn't need to turn to Chinese engineering firms for guidance on how to build skyscrapers...we did it by ourselves through trial&error with nobody available to turn to for shortcuts, hints, or direction.

The US has spent alot of money and time getting lots of tech to work that you take for granted as a latecomer.

Yes, we are really impressed you can jam 100,000 workers into an assembly line building putting together a $600 iPhone on the cheap while a few high paid telecommuting "lazy" Apple engineers in California debate the next future design from their big suburban homes.
 
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Productivity is in part a function of investment into modernizing equipment to increase output. Lack of funding into more modern equipment means slower growth in productivity. That accounts for the slowdown in increasing output.

The negative mood also causes a drag on consumption as people fear being short of funds during a recession. It’s a viscous self fulfilling cycle.
 
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LOL! All the things you take for granted in your country like cars, planes, skyscrapers, computers, phones, elevators, plate glass windows, etc weren't dreamed up by your country of a billion hardworking people.

So if we suddenly look lax to you that's only because a generation ago most of us weren't in the rice fields behind an ox trying to make sure our families didn't starve to death.

When we were building our cities over 100 years ago we didn't need to turn to Chinese engineering firms for guidance on how to build skyscrapers...we did it by ourselves through trial&error with nobody available to turn to for shortcuts, hints, or direction.

The US has spent alot of money and time getting lots of tech to work that you take for granted as a latecomer.

Yes, we are really impressed you can jam 100,000 workers into an assembly line building putting together a $600 iPhone on the cheap while a few high paid telecommuting "lazy" Apple engineers in California debate the next future design from their big suburban homes.
Apple had to help YMTC hire US engineers to boost yield and productivity.
 
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Labor market is not tight.

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