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US to shut down Chinese companies if they aid Russia : US Commerce Sec.

And tesla will buy Chinese components... Lol. You still don't understand our strategy?
Yes you cheer Putin while continue make money. Putin meanwhile destroys Ukraine he destroys Russia economy.

Russia government bonds are traded 17 cent per dollar, Ukraine bonds 22 cent per dollar. That means investors bet Russia goes faster bankrupt than Ukraine.
 
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Yes you cheer Putin while continue make money. Putin meanwhile destroys Ukraine he destroys Russia economy.

Russia government bonds are traded 17 cent per dollar, Ukraine bonds 22 cent per dollar. That means investors bet Russia goes faster bankrupt than Ukraine.
We did not destroy Russian economy, the Western sanction did. We are actually helping them to protect their economy. Without us, their whole international trade would have collapsed. Now the world's biggest consumer will consume from the world's largest resource exporter.

Bankrupt in dollar terms. How do you even go bankrupt? They just substitute dollars for rmb. Imagine this, Russia produces most of the basic food and necessities themselves, they only need to export oil and resources to buy stuff like consumer goods Germans cars etc. So now instead of earning dollars to buy German cars, they earn rmb to buy Chinese NIO, BYD, TESLAs. So instead of buying Apple, buy Huawei, they earn the rmb by selling us oil and resources. In the end money is just a means to exchange goods and services. There is no point accumulating dollars. Chinese has 1 trillion in USD, but tahts less than 6 months of Chinese imports. We need reserves because we also import alot of input for exporting a finished product.

And we have been converting dollars to gold and other commodities reserve for a long time. Nobody even knows the exact Chinese dollar holdings.

We already reached a stage of technological and industrial base maturity, we only need resources. Raw materials. Components we have domestic substitute except for 5nm level chips and equipment.
 
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It's too early to jump to conclusion.
Putin understands economics very well.

Russia have commodities that are essential to every country.

Russia can send Europe into a resession.
Ukraine may not even be Putin's main target.

Sorry. Only in Chinese. A very difficult point of view.
 
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We did not destroy Russian economy, the Western sanction did. We are actually helping them to protect their economy. Without us, their whole international trade would have collapsed. Now the world's biggest consumer will consume from the world's largest resource exporter.

Bankrupt in dollar terms. How do you even go bankrupt? They just substitute dollars for rmb. Imagine this, Russia produces most of the basic food and necessities themselves, they only need to export oil and resources to buy stuff like consumer goods Germans cars etc. So now instead of earning dollars to buy German cars, they earn rmb to buy Chinese NIO, BYD, TESLAs. So instead of buying Apple, buy Huawei, they earn the rmb by selling us oil and resources. In the end money is just a means to exchange goods and services. There is no point accumulating dollars. Chinese has 1 trillion in USD, but tahts less than 6 months of Chinese imports. We need reserves because we also import alot of input for exporting a finished product.

And we have been converting dollars to gold and other commodities reserve for a long time. Nobody even knows the exact Chinese dollar holdings.

We already reached a stage of technological and industrial base maturity, we only need resources. Raw materials. Components we have domestic substitute except for 5nm level chips and equipment.
What’s Putin’s endgame?
Instead of selling resources to the world only sell to China?
Instead of having friends around the world only chinese?
Russia airliners only fly to one destination?

I just look at the list which Foreign enterprises leaving Russia. Simply shocking.

Mastercard, VISA, American Express, Google, Apple and Apple Pay, Samsung, General Electric, Shell Oil, BP, ExxonMobil, Ikea, Nike, Reebok, Hyundai, Ford, BMW, Daimler, General Motors, Land Rover, Mercedes-Benz, Nokia, Ericsson, Dell, Siemens, BMW, Renault, Netflix, Walt Disney, Universal, Lego, Expedia, FedEx, Valio, Fazer, Danone, Arla, McDonald’s, Coca-Cola, Starbucks
 
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What’s Putin’s endgame?
Instead of selling resources to the world only sell to China?
Instead of having friends around the world only chinese?
Russia airliners only fly to one destination?

I just look at the list which Foreign enterprises leaving Russia. Simply shocking.

Mastercard, VISA, American Express, Google, Apple and Apple Pay, Samsung, General Electric, Shell Oil, BP, ExxonMobil, Ikea, Nike, Reebok, Hyundai, Ford, BMW, Daimler, General Motors, Land Rover, Mercedes-Benz, Nokia, Ericsson, Dell, Siemens, BMW, Renault, Netflix, Walt Disney, Universal, Lego, Expedia, FedEx, Valio, Fazer, Danone, Arla, McDonald’s, Coca-Cola, Starbucks
All has g
What’s Putin’s endgame?
Instead of selling resources to the world only sell to China?
Instead of having friends around the world only chinese?
Russia airliners only fly to one destination?

I just look at the list which Foreign enterprises leaving Russia. Simply shocking.

Mastercard, VISA, American Express, Google, Apple and Apple Pay, Samsung, General Electric, Shell Oil, BP, ExxonMobil, Ikea, Nike, Reebok, Hyundai, Ford, BMW, Daimler, General Motors, Land Rover, Mercedes-Benz, Nokia, Ericsson, Dell, Siemens, BMW, Renault, Netflix, Walt Disney, Universal, Lego, Expedia, FedEx, Valio, Fazer, Danone, Arla, McDonald’s, Coca-Cola, Starbucks
All has got Chinese equivalents. In this world only China can withstand sanctions and trade with Russia and Iran. We need another 10 years to be really independent of foreign tech. Russia will be powering our civilization. In return we share our technology and ensure their political and military independence.
 
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All has got Chinese equivalents. In this world only China can withstand sanctions and trade with Russia and Iran. We need another 10 years to be really independent of foreign tech. Russia will be powering our civilization. In return we share our technology and ensure their political and military independence.
Independent nonsense
Russia will become a chinese colony.
 
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It is not wise and necessary to argue over every point made in a thread. The point in question is correct.
Market cap is not good indicator at all. And there are many giants are NOT listed publicly.

In 2021, China's China National Tobacco Corporation (commonly known as China Tobacco, abbreviated as CNTC) generated about 118.2 billion yuan in profit, which is less than 20 billions USD.

Huawei is not listed

Most China state owned giant not listed

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Independent nonsense
Russia will become a chinese colony.
So Russia is a US colony now for using dollars? They are as powerful as us, we respect them as equals.

So Russia is a US colony now for using dollars? They are as powerful as us, we respect them as equals.
Let China return to her ancient glory, for thousands of years our civilization protected and dominated Asia. Your country was once a good vassal but now
 
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Its all saber rattling. The US and EU need to be careful not to polarise large parts of the world and end up creating a new economic block without realising it. Sanctioning many big countries will bound to make them co-operate and overcome sanctions overtime making the point of the sanctions useless. Less dependency on trade with the west will also make these countries more aggressive in their foreign policy when dealing with them.
 
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Anything American government does comes back and harms American public at home. Gas is at 4.59 now at local Mobil and BP. These Washington fukers gone mad

Where's the $4.59 station? I will drive a gas tank there to fill. LOL... It's around $5.60 around my area.
 
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