US Senator Sanders call attention to India's 'unacceptable' actions in occupied Kashmir

[Kabira]

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[Kabira]

Could be US president in 2020.

 

[BringHarmony]

Could be US president in 2020.

The guy is too old. From the looks of it, donald duck may get another 4 years.

 

[FuturePAF]

Kashmir should be brought up at the next democratic presidential debates. It will help raise the issue in the minds of the American People and the world.

 

[BringHarmony]

Kashmir should be brought up at the next democratic presidential debates. It will help raise the issue in the minds of the American People and the world.

In us? Fat chance. There is not enough public interest unfortunately.

 

[FuturePAF]

In us? Fat chance. There is not enough public interest unfortunately.

Get enough people suggesting it as a question, under the guise of US leadership on Human rights, democracy, rule of law, respecting international agreements and US leadership in humanitarian issues. It will make the democrats look good compared to Trump, and differentiate the democratic candidates; i.e. who stands on these principles and who does not.

At the very least each of the remain 10 democratic candidates Should be asked over the next 2-3 days, where they stand on this issue, starting by telling them what Bernie said. They will not want to look like they also don't support the same principles, and if all 10 can be on record supporting the Kashmir people, then come November all Us presidential candidates of both parties will have been on record supporting internationalizing the Kashmir issue.

Going into the UN General Assembly speech, with tacit US support, in this manner, Imran Khan can lay out a case at the UN which the Pakistani Lawyers can build upon at the ICJ.

 

[BringHarmony]

Get enough people suggesting it as a question, under the guise of US leadership on Human rights, democracy, rule of law, respecting international agreements and US leadership in humanitarian issues. It will make the democrats look good compared to Trump, and differentiate the democratic candidates; i.e. who stands on these principles and who does not.

The problem these days I see in US is that people are looking inward a lot. They have their own issues to deal with. Another issue is that of anti-intellectualism. The moment it appears that you are talking something which looks even marginally highbrow you lose a large bunch of folks. The heartland of USA is too much absorbed into itself to care of any such issues today. I doubt any issue other than Afghanistan and withdrawl of forces will show up in debates.

 

[Kabira]

The problem these days I see in US is that people are looking inward a lot. They have their own issues to deal with. Another issue is that of anti-intellectualism. The moment it appears that you are talking something which looks even marginally highbrow you lose a large bunch of folks. The heartland of USA is too much absorbed into itself to care of any such issues today. I doubt any issue other than Afghanistan and withdrawl of forces will show up in debates.

Afghanistan issue is linked with Kashmir unfortunately as per US report.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/kashmir-issue-may-impact-afghan-talks-warns-us-report.633840/

 

[FuturePAF]

The problem these days I see in US is that people are looking inward a lot. They have their own issues to deal with. Another issue is that of anti-intellectualism. The moment it appears that you are talking something which looks even marginally highbrow you lose a large bunch of folks. The heartland of USA is too much absorbed into itself to care of any such issues today. I doubt any issue other than Afghanistan and withdrawl of forces will show up in debates.

True, but it depends on how the issue is coached. If it is coached in Respecting out allies and upholding international law, so the US regains moral leadership it can be part of a broader message of global efforts, like fighting climate change, respecting human rights, preventing another migration/refugee crisis, preventing the root causes of terrorism.

Its about finding the overlaps

 

[BringHarmony]

At the very least each of the remain 10 democratic candidates Should be asked over the next 2-3 days, where they stand on this issue, starting by telling them what Bernie said.

The shock victory of Trump last time is working against that. I surmise, Democrats will be focusing more on issues faced by farmers, workers etc. At best this will show up in one side note somewhere. Remember, last time they lost because heartland of USA voted against them. There were lots of hidden Trump voters. This time around, I think they will focus on how donald duck effed up the economy, jobs, safety etc. Basically, their traditional base is going to be very much with them -- as much as they could-- but they will like to seek those whom they lost last time.

Afghanistan issue is linked with Kashmir unfortunately as per US report.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/kashmir-issue-may-impact-afghan-talks-warns-us-report.633840/

It is. There is no doubt. But .... let me explain it. For an American to link Afghanistan to Taliban to Pakistan to Kashmir is a bridge too far. Remember elections are about popular opinion and not necessarily the correct. Popular opinion is, get my forces out of Afghanistan!!!111
What it takes to get out of there... no one seems to care.

 

[FuturePAF]

The shock victory of Trump last time is working against that. I surmise, Democrats will be focusing more on issues faced by farmers, workers etc. At best this will show up in one side note somewhere. Remember, last time they lost because heartland of USA voted against them. There were lots of hidden Trump voters. This time around, I think they will focus on how donald duck effed up the economy, jobs, safety etc. Basically, their traditional base is going to be very much with them -- as much as they could-- but they will like to seek those whom they lost last time.


It is. There is no doubt. But .... let me explain it. For an American to link Afghanistan to Taliban to Pakistan to Kashmir is a bridge too far. Remember elections are about popular opinion and not necessarily the correct. Popular opinion is, get my forces out of Afghanistan!!!111
What it takes to get out of there... no one seems to care.

Each of the candidates can still be asked about Kashmir one on one in public meetings with the general public. Sound bites, video, and generally statements made by the candidates will just build up the momentum on this issue, even if it flies under the radar of most Americans.

I agree its a bridge to far to ask Most Americans to care about Afghanistan much less Kashmir, when there are so many issues here at home. for them to worry about. Hence why one on one maybe the best way to go about it. Contacting all the viable candidates in public meetings, calling all congresspersons, and senators, and generally raising the issue where ever and when ever possible, will just keep the momentum going. This needs to also be done with other world leaders and faith leaders. The pope should be asked about this, so that his statement, will raise the issue in the minds of Catholics, and anyone else who may listen to him. the goal being to win the moral argument.

During the discussion, PM Modi had stressed that India and Pakistan were one before 1947 and all issues between the two were bilateral -- categorically rejecting any third party mediation.

"There are many bilateral issues between India and Pakistan, and we don't want to trouble any third country. We can discuss and resolve these issues bilaterally," PM Modi had said.

Source: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/us-...-concerned-about-situation-in-kashmir-2093774

This is Modi's counter argument, and winning the moral argument in the minds of the world influence people and their supporters will make them understand that keeping it bilateral will prevent it from ever being resolved, and that will trouble the whole world. Modi can not be trusted to deal bilateral, the world needs to be rallied to pressure him/ force him to accept international arbitration.

"India's action is unacceptable," Sanders said. "The communications blockade must be lifted immediately, and the United States government must speak out boldly in support of international humanitarian law and in support of a U.N.-backed peaceful resolution that respects the will of the Kashmiri people."

Source: https://www.texastribune.org/2019/08/31/julian-castro-bernie-sanders-court-muslim-vote-houston/

Even if Sanders doesn't win, his words can be aired in messages to young people for years to come, to support the freedom movement of the Kashmiri People.

 

[BringHarmony]

Each of the candidates can still be asked about Kashmir one on one in public meetings with the general public. Sound bites, video, and generally statements made by the candidates will just build up the momentum on this issue, even if it flies under the radar of most Americans.

I agree its a bridge to far to ask Most Americans to care about Afghanistan much less Kashmir, when there are so many issues here at home. for them to worry about. Hence why one on one maybe the best way to go about it. Contacting all the viable candidates in public meetings, calling all congresspersons, and senators, and generally raising the issue where ever and when ever possible, will just keep the momentum going. This needs to also be done with other world leaders and faith leaders. The pope should be asked about this, so that his statement, will raise the issue in the minds of Catholics, and anyone else who may listen to him. the goal being to win the moral argument.

If you are in USA, you can send your question to the candidates. Though I think they will be pushed below the pile.

I remember that Gold Star family from '16. Though it is sad but if you folks can mobilize them to ask your question, it may carry some weight. I remember them having a connection with a lot of other military families. They were remembered a bit. Especially because donald duck was being a complete douche and a-hole with them.

 

[FuturePAF]

If you are in USA, you can send your question to the candidates. Though I think they will be pushed below the pile.

I remember that Gold Star family from '16. Though it is sad but if you folks can mobilize them to ask your question, it may carry some weight. I remember them having a connection with a lot of other military families. They were remembered a bit. Especially because donald duck was being a complete douche and a-hole with them.

Every little bit can help, and you never know what maybe the straw the breaks the camels back.

 

[BringHarmony]

Every little bit can help, and you never know what maybe the straw the breaks the camels back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khizr_and_Ghazala_Khan

They are still involved with DNC I guess. They are from faisalabad.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

It is unfortunate and selfish but the US masses don't care about people outside the US.