US pulling out Patriot missiles from Turkey

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[Adir-M]

You can always buy israeli defance missiels that are batter then patriot and s-300. It can help to bring back turkey-israel relations.

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david sling

spider air defance

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[Hurshid Celebi]

You can always buy israeli defance missiels that are batter then patriot and s-300. It can help to bring back turkey-israel relations.

Barak-8

david sling

spider air defance

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Who knows ? Whats' going behind closed doors. We are not foes of Israel and try to balance a peace relation for Palestinian People. That's our dilemma. We are more active than all Arab countries.
Palestinian respect that and all moderate Israelis, but not sold traitors like SISSI

 

[Oldman1]

Patriots maybe outdated to take out Ballistic missiles, but they are perfect for taking out Enemy Aircraft.

Secondly, if USA was going to replace these batteries with upgraded ones, they would have repeatedly said so. But no such claims have been made. And if they were really upgrading them, then Turkey wouldn't have asked them to keep the Patriots there.

Look at the date.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/w...l-pull-patriot-missiles-from-turkey.html?_r=0

After Delicate Negotiations, U.S. Says It Will Pull Patriot Missiles From Turkey
By ERIC SCHMITT AUG. 16, 2015

WASHINGTON — The United States said Sunday that it would withdraw two Patriot missile-defense batteries from southern Turkey this fall, a sign that the Pentagon believes the risk of Syrian Army missile attacks has eased since the Patriots were deployed in 2013. Officials said the antimissile systems would be needed elsewhere to defend against threats from Iran and North Korea.

A statement issued by the United States Embassy in Ankara from the American and Turkish governments said the Patriots would be sent back to the United States for “critical modernization upgrades.” If needed in a crisis, the batteries and their 250 troops could be rushed back to Turkey “within one week” to fulfill an American and NATO commitment to Turkey’s air defenses. Air defenses aboard American warships in the region also could help carry out the security mission over Turkey, the statement said.

What the statement did not mention was a complicated story behind the Patriot decision, which briefly last month seemed poised to dash months of painstaking talks with Turkey about allowing American armed drones and fighter jets to fly combat missions against the Islamic State from Incirlik Air Base and other Turkish installations.

 

[xyxmt]

US is you friend and ally until you need them.

 

[bdslph]

why did usa want to pull out missiles from turkey

 

[Hack-Hook]

Patriots maybe outdated to take out Ballistic missiles, but they are perfect for taking out Enemy Aircraft.

Secondly, if USA was going to replace these batteries with upgraded ones, they would have repeatedly said so. But no such claims have been made. And if they were really upgrading them, then Turkey wouldn't have asked them to keep the Patriots there.

because those old patriot failed to counter airplanes they modified them to work against ballistic missile which if its truevand they are from 20 years ago and not modernised yet I doubt they also be much challenge against missiles.

 

[Shotgunner51]

why did usa want to pull out missiles from turkey

Could it be that US has obtained intelligence in advance that Russia will militarily intervene?
Or maybe Russia had informed US directly, or indirectly through 3rd party?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Could it be that US has obtained intelligence in advance that Russia will militarily intervene?
Or maybe Russia had informed US directly, or indirectly through 3rd party?

NATO ACO | NATO Deployment of Patriot Missiles to Turkey
"NATO has been augmenting Turkey’s defence capabilities since January 2013.
In response to Turkey’s request, NATO Foreign Ministers decided on 4 December 2012 that NATO would augment Turkey’s air defence capabilities in order to defend the population and territory of Turkey against threats posed by missiles from across its border with Syria."

After almost 3 years of defensive deployment no missiles (at least not reported) have been fired into Turkey.

 

[Shotgunner51]

NATO ACO | NATO Deployment of Patriot Missiles to Turkey
"NATO has been augmenting Turkey’s defence capabilities since January 2013.
In response to Turkey’s request, NATO Foreign Ministers decided on 4 December 2012 that NATO would augment Turkey’s air defence capabilities in order to defend the population and territory of Turkey against threats posed by missiles from across its border with Syria."

After almost 3 years of defensive deployment no missiles (at least not reported) have been fired into Turkey.

Thanks for the info.

The question is timing of such pulling out. After some years of deployment, US (& other NATO members) decided to pull out, then Russia militarily intervened (and violated air space) just within a month or so. Are these incidents completely unrelated, neither one is consequential to the other?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Thanks for the info.

The question is timing of such pulling out. After some years of deployment, US (& other NATO members) decided to pull out, then Russia militarily intervened (and violated air space) just within a month or so. Are these incidents completely unrelated, neither one is consequential to the other?

They aren't there to shoot planes down. They have patrolling aircraft for that.
Unless Russia starts bringing in Scuds.

 

[Oldman1]

because those old patriot failed to counter airplanes they modified them to work against ballistic missile which if its truevand they are from 20 years ago and not modernised yet I doubt they also be much challenge against missiles.

Say what? The Patriot has history of able to shoot down aircraft. You can ask the Syrians.

Israel Shoots Down Syrian MiG Fighter Jet Over Golan Heights - NBC News

 

[forcetrip]

why did usa want to pull out missiles from turkey

Patriots are not just anti missile weapons they are also anti aircraft. If by accident any Russian plane gets shot down by some gung ho american or turkish soldier then the effects of that decision could be wide spread and uncontrollable. Drawing first blood could very well be the last nail in them arming terrorists.

 

[Schutz]

This has been in the works for months yet most of you are ignoring that fact and making up your own conspiracies, its not a news story it was planned months ago.

 

[black-hawk_101]

US pulling out Patriot missiles from Turkey - The Times of India


ISTANBUL: The US on Friday started to withdraw its Patriot missile batteries from Turkey, despite Russia's weekend incursions into Ankara's airspace amid a deepening crisis in Syria.

The batteries, based in Turkey's southeastern province of Gaziantep, have been taken to the Turkish harbour of Iskenderun for shipping back to the United States, the Dogan news agency said.

The withdrawal came despite Ankara's appeal for its NATO allies to keep their Patriot missiles in the country, as Russia started air raids on Islamic State targets in Syria on September 30 and Russian fighters twice breached Turkish airspace on October 3 and 4.

The US Patriots were stationed in Gaziantep in 2013 with 300 US troops as a counter-defence against possible missile attacks from Syria. Germany and the Netherlands also deployed the missiles in Turkey, reports Xinhua news agency.

The US and Germany announced in August that they would withdraw their batteries, saying Syria no longer posed a serious threat to Turkey, a NATO ally.

The US embassy in Ankara said in a statement earlier that the Patriots "will be re-deployed to the US for critical modernization upgrades".

The Netherlands pulled out its two batteries from the southern Turkish city of Adana early this year, but Spain filled the gap by providing two batteries.

Germany is set to withdraw its missiles next week.

Turkey should have bought it from the US as now Russia is making it's feet into turkey.