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Hillary is getting so frustrated, losing state after state to Sanders, someone who has barely been a Democrat for a few months. She barely survived on winning New York and on supers. Trump is from New York, she is not. Trump will beat her in New York.

I think Sanders will beat Hillary at the convention. Hillary doesn't beat Sanders a lot in terms of popular vote. If Sanders can turn the supers against Hillary then Sanders will win. Hillary beat Sanders by a bit in New York, but she is not from New York while Trump is, so I expect Trump to beat Hillary in New York in the general.
As I said previously, he gets most of his votes from the independents and the far left fringe of the Democratic Party, just like a non-Republican Trump gets his from the far right (racist) fringe of the Republican Party.

Let’s look at some facts,

New York primary results:

Hillary, 1,054,083

Bernie, 763,469

she won more than 290,614 votes, now, does that look “barely” “bit” to you?

Popular vote, so far, she has won 12,438,491 million votes and Bernie got 9,302,657 million, that is a difference of 3,135,834 million more than him, so, doesn’t that look “a lot” to you?

Bty, Hillary got more votes than Trump in New York.
 
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As I said previously, he gets most of his votes from the independents and the far left fringe of the Democratic Party, just like a non-Republican Trump gets his from the far right (racist) fringe of the Republican Party.

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You're right about everything, except that in bold. There are no people on the far left voting for him. He get's independents, moderate republicans, and moderate democrats. The far right vote for Cruz, the far left prefer Sanders/Clinton. Then you have one minority which just mostly votes Clinton. Trump can't get enough Latino support at this moment, although I don't see Latino's preferring Clinton either, unless they just want Trump to lose.

Anyway, most people predicted Trump would never be the nominee, they are all nowhere to be found now. And the ex-Mexico president is now apologizing for his past remarks against Trump, some people are now having to accept reality, and this confirms that he is a force that will put up a fight against Clinton if not beat her. It's odd that @flamer84 is against Trump, since Trump is against Merkel's policies for Europe(the ones this member complains about a lot). It must be that flamer is on the far right, prefers neocon policies(no America first, pro-immigration, pro-Israel, Judeo-Christian value stuff). Trump on other hand, doesn't care about Judeo-christian stuff, is America first, and not fond of immigration.

So either Flamer is confused about where his priorities lie, or he is not showing us his other side.
 
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I think Sanders will beat Hillary at the convention. Hillary doesn't beat Sanders a lot in terms of popular vote. If Sanders can turn the supers against Hillary then Sanders will win. Hillary beat Sanders by a bit in New York, but she is not from New York while Trump is, so I expect Trump to beat Hillary in New York in the general.

Hillary got more total votes in New York than Trump
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york

You are in dream land when it comes to Bernie swaying the pledged super delegates to vote against their state,as for the unpledged super delegates? :rofl: Bernie Sanders isn't liked in the senate in general. You are simply covering your ears and screaming 'LALALALA' at this point.

Hillary has already moved on, and Bernie isn't going to win California. by any number that will lead to him beating Hillary. He needs what, 65%+ votes in each of the remaining primaries to win?

Thankfully this is something that can and will be disproven soon enough, in about 2 months.
 
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Hillary got more total votes in New York than Trump
because It was a closed primary there and registered dems could only vote for dems, and registered republicans could only vote in theirs. This prevented the large numbers of crossover votes that Trump's been getting, New York is also a deep blue state so there are obviously more democrats overall, even Ivanka and Eric trump couldn't vote because they hadn't registered in time.

Trump is more liberal than Hillary on some issues, he's also a New York native, he could possibly rout her in the general when people can vote for whomever they want.

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Trump is more liberal than Hillary on some issues, he's also a New York native, he could possibly rout her in the general when people can vote for whomever they want.

As you said, New York is a Blue stronghold, I give Trump the Same chance to take New York a he has in taking California, essentially 0,
 
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As you said, New York is a Blue stronghold, I give Trump the Same chance to take New York a he has in taking California, essentially 0,

He'll have a chance in New York, he's without a doubt going to take Florida, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio....
 
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You're right about everything, except that in bold. There are no people on the far left voting for him. He get's independents, moderate republicans, and moderate democrats. The far right vote for Cruz, the far left prefer Sanders/Clinton. Then you have one minority which just mostly votes Clinton. Trump can't get enough Latino support at this moment, although I don't see Latino's preferring Clinton either, unless they just want Trump to lose.

Anyway, most people predicted Trump would never be the nominee, they are all nowhere to be found now. And the ex-Mexico president is now apologizing for his past remarks against Trump, some people are now having to accept reality, and this confirms that he is a force that will put up a fight against Clinton if not beat her. It's odd that @flamer84 is against Trump, since Trump is against Merkel's policies for Europe(the ones this member complains about a lot). It must be that flamer is on the far right, prefers neocon policies(no America first, pro-immigration, pro-Israel, Judeo-Christian value stuff). Trump on other hand, doesn't care about Judeo-christian stuff, is America first, and not fond of immigration.

So either Flamer is confused about where his priorities lie, or he is not showing us his other side.


Being a conservative in my political views (far right is a wrong term) doesn't mean that I have to support every populist clown and I believe Trump is just that.He makes some good points but also talks alot of BS.I wouldn't be to upset if he beats Hillary though but I think that's impossible.

I'm very much pro Israel in my views,I think that the far left is anti Israel.
 
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As you said, New York is a Blue stronghold, I give Trump the Same chance to take New York a he has in taking California, essentially 0,
curious, how much of a chance did you give him to win the republican nomination ?
 
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Triumph versus Killery if Sanders doesn't ruin it.
 
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curious, how much of a chance did you give him to win the republican nomination ?

From the beginning i've acknowledged he had a small chance to win the republican nomination, his message of bigotry can find fertile support in a subset of hardcore conservative White republicans. but I have also remained absolutely convinced that he can't win the general. He simply doesn't have the demographic support, not with his message, and his own words will be thrown back at him through constant and vicious attack ads right up until election day.


 
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Being a conservative in my political views (far right is a wrong term) doesn't mean that I have to support every populist clown and I believe Trump is just that.He makes some good points but also talks alot of BS.I wouldn't be to upset if he beats Hillary though but I think that's impossible.

I'm very much pro Israel in my views,I think that the far left is anti Israel.

I don't think you're conservative, you have no relation to American conservatism. You're a Romanian, and rumor has it that your people don't get along with the rest of the Europeans. I don't know, and personally don't care or have interest in European politics. I'll leave that to you guys. On the other hand, when you come in here and declare a candidate who has the most momentum, a 'clown', without citing specifics, you lose your credibility.

Again, you're severely misinformed on US political leanings. Far left and right, are pro-Israel, left is just slightly less pro-israel. Independents don't care about Israel, and care about America before anything else. Most of them are voting Trump.
 
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