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Thu May 9, 2013 7:38AM


Afghan President Hamid Karzai says Washington is planning to keep nine military bases across war-torn Afghanistan.

KABUL: Afghan President Hamid Karzai vowed Thursday to wring concessions from the United States in negotiations to sign a security pact, saying Washington wanted to retain nine military bases in the country.

After more than 11 years of US-led military intervention in Afghanistan, the two countries are hammering out a deal to allow a limited US troop presence to remain after the international coalition leaves next year.

The size of the “residual” force has not been agreed, with numbers ranging from 2,500 to 12,000, according to US officials, as Washington winds down a war that has become deeply unpopular at home.

Soldiers kept in Afghanistan would target Al-Qaeda militants and help train the local army and police — but a hasty withdrawal could also threaten fragile gains secured since the Taliban were ousted in 2001.

“We are in very serious and delicate negotiations with America,” Karzai said. “America has got its demands, Afghanistan too has its own demands, and its own interests... They want nine bases across Afghanistan.

“Our conditions are that the US intensify efforts in the peace process, strengthen Afghanistan’s security forces, provide concrete support to the economy — power, roads and dams — and provide assistance in governance.

“If these are met, we are ready to sign the security pact,” he told the audience during a speech at Kabul University.

US officials have reportedly said that if 6,000 troops were kept in Afghanistan after 2014, only two bases, in Kabul and at Bagram airfield, would be maintained. -- AFP


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US wants to keep nine bases in Afghanistan: Karzai - Columnist - New Straits Times



UPDATE


FOX NEWS
Thu May 9, 2013 05:30pm PST



Afghanistan ready to OK 9 US bases after 2014 troop pullout, Karzai says


"However, as President Obama has stated, the U.S. does not seek permanent military bases in Afghanistan. We envision that the BSA (Bilateral Strategic Agreement) will address access to and use of Afghan facilities by U.S. forces in the future."




KABUL, Afghanistan – The U.S. can keep nine bases in Afghanistan after the scheduled 2014 NATO combat troop pullout, the country's president said Thursday, the first time he has made such an offer in public.

Hamid Karzai insisted on "security and economic guarantees" first.

Talks over a deal that would outline the American presence in Afghanistan after next year have been in progress for many months, and few details have been released.

Speaking at a ceremony at Kabul University, Karzai said, "When they (the U.S.) do this, we are ready to sign" a partnership agreement.

Karzai said Afghanistan wants a U.S. commitment to boost its security, strengthen its armed forces and promise long-term economic development.

The U.S. Embassy spokesman in Kabul, David Snepp, refused to address details of the agreement. "We have not and will not comment on specifics in the ongoing negotiations," he told The Associated Press.

"However, as President Obama has stated, the U.S. does not seek permanent military bases in Afghanistan. We envision that the BSA (Bilateral Strategic Agreement) will address access to and use of Afghan facilities by U.S. forces in the future."


Still, there was no reference to "existing" bases in Karzai's comments. He said only that the U.S. has requested nine bases in the country.

A senior U.S. official familiar with the talks told The Associated Press earlier that the U.S. and Karzai are at odds over his request that the United States guarantee it would side with Afghanistan if neighboring Pakistan poses a threat. So far the U.S. is refusing, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief reporters.


The negotiations over a strategic agreement have been protracted and at times acrimonious, reflecting Washington's relationship with Karzai, who has often had strong words of criticism for Washington.

In March, when it appeared that the agreement was about to be signed, Karzai made a statement that suggested that the United States and the Taliban were benefiting each other
and even in collusion to keep U.S. troops in the country, though the U.S. has been fighting Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan for two decades.

As a result, the U.S. put the agreement on hold.

Some Afghans who are familiar with the Afghan president that his tough talk is a negotiating ploy to get more from the United States, particularly in relation to Pakistan.

Tensions between the two countries have escalated dramatically in the last two weeks, with both sides accusing each other of unprovoked attacks.

During his speech Thursday marking the 80th anniversary of Kabul University, Afghanistan's premiere post-secondary educational institution, Karzai warned Pakistan against sending its forces across the border or trying to force Afghanistan to accept the old Durand partition line as the international border.

This week Afghanistan accused Pakistan of crossing into its territory. Pakistan's military flatly denied that.

"Let this be absolutely clear that neither Pakistani security forces crossed into Afghan territory at Ghoshta area nor anywhere else along the Pakistan-Afghan border ... This is baseless and fabricated news," a Pakistani military statement said.

In his speech, Karzai issued fresh warnings to Pakistan to stay away from its borders and to stop any attempts at exerting influence over Afghanistan.

"We want a civilized relationship with Pakistan but if any neighbor wants Afghanistan under its shadow ... it is not possible," said Karzai. "If there is any attack or any violation to force Afghanistan to accept the Durand Line, the Afghan nation will never accept it and will never recognize the Durand Line. Impossible.'

The Durand line is a 1893 British demarcation arbitrarily dividing the area between Afghanistan and what was then British-ruled India. Pakistan was created in 1947 when British rule of the subcontinent ended.

The Durand Line has served as the border between the two nations ever since. Karzai has never said what he would accept as an international border.

Historically, the relationship between Afghanistan and Pakistan has been uneasy.

One of the main issues has been allegations that Pakistan harbors insurgents fighting Afghan and coalition forces in Afghanistan. Although the Pakistani army has lost thousands of soldiers fighting its own Taliban at home, its refusal to target Afghan Taliban and its affiliates, like the Haqqani network, and shut down its sanctuaries have marred the relationship between the two countries.


SOURCE:

FOX NEWS


Afghanistan ready to OK 9 US bases after 2014 troop pullout, Karzai says | Fox News


KARZAI IS OFFERING USA BASES WHILE OBAMA WANTS AFGHAN FORCES TO TAKE CONTROL AFTER FULL WITHDRAWAL OF ALL USA FORCES
ANOTHER VIETNAM IS UNAVOIDABLE SOONER OR LATER
 
There goes the hopes of all the talib sympathizers who were declaring taliban would reconquer afganisthan after us withdrawal.Where is pakistanisage?Weren't u guaranteeing such a thing?
Only land troops are going home..drones and aircraft are staying behind for punishment and to pulverize any taliban concentration in a attempt to take urban centres.
 
There goes the hopes of all the talib sympathizers who were declaring taliban would reconquer afganisthan after us withdrawal.Where is pakistanisage?Weren't u guaranteeing such a thing?
Only land troops are going home..drones and aircraft are staying behind for punishment and to pulverize any taliban concentration in a attempt to take urban centres.

it is karzias hope taliban did not allow the white skin trash to settle in Afghanistan in the first place fights rages all the time they will force them out usa can make any plans they want they eventullay repeat vietnam:-)

Indians were rooting for USSR in Afghanistan while that didn't happen and only r was left

pulverized white a$$e$$

by the way Taliban spring offensive has started lets see how that goes
 
it is karzias hope taliban did not allow the white skin trash to settle in Afghanistan in the first place fights rages all the time they will force them out usa can make any plans they want they eventullay repeat vietnam:-)

Indians were rooting for USSR in Afghanistan while that didn't happen and only r was left

pulverized white a$$e$$

by the way Taliban spring offensive has started lets see how that goes

We are rooting for Afghans, not USA or USSR. You are rooting for Taliban.
 
it is karzias hope taliban did not allow the white skin trash to settle in Afghanistan in the first place fights rages all the time they will force them out usa can make any plans they want they eventullay repeat vietnam:-)

Indians were rooting for USSR in Afghanistan while that didn't happen and only r was left

pulverized white a$$e$$

by the way Taliban spring offensive has started lets see how that goes

Extraordinary has already answered for me.PA is shameless destroying afganisthan for 'strategic depth' with taliban proxies.
 
Extraordinary has already answered for me.PA is shameless destroying afganisthan for 'strategic depth' with taliban proxies.

and you did humanitarian work supporting and arming mukti banni in east pakistan and tamil tigers in siri lanka

time will tell wait dec 2014 for partial withdrawal of usa and then if they keep some forces whether they stay their in presence of taliban would become clear in 1 year
 
and you did humanitarian work supporting and arming mukti banni in east pakistan and tamil tigers in siri lanka

time will tell wait dec 2014 for partial withdrawal of usa and then if they keep some forces whether they stay their in presence of taliban would become clear in 1 year

Or third possibility, ANA chasing Taliban and crossing over durand line to execute their operations.
 
2 bases are needed for 6000 troops according to the US officials in the article. so 9 bases means 27000 troops ? :cheesy:
 
Nothing new or unexpected in the news! USA had always had a "Plan B" in place. Read up on Robert Blackwill's Plan for Afghanistan. This seems to be on those lines. The International Community does not want a vaccum in Afghanistan. Russia is OK with this plan; later Iran will also extend tacit support. China will remain neutral on the continuing US presence in Afghanistan.

All that will happen; will be a draw-down of US forces and restructuring and redeployment of the remaining US troops. SE Afghanistan will go into a melt-down of sorts. Will that be good news for Pakistan?
 
what do you tell yourself ? (obviously neither afghans or world listen you ) :lol:



the world should first try to combat Taliban the super duper powers present in Afghanistan we are not saying anything to afghans and the world so what they did not listen

stupid reply
 

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