US-Pakistan F-16 Deal: Indian EAM Jaishankar Throws a Tantrum

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US-Pakistan F-16 Deal: Indian EAM Jaishankar Throws a Tantrum

“You’re not fooling anybody by saying these things," said Indian External Affairs Minister Subramanian Jaishankar to his American hosts in W...

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“You’re not fooling anybody by saying these things," said Indian External Affairs Minister Subramanian Jaishankar to his American hosts in Washington. He was lashing out at the United States for the State Department's explanation for the $450 million F-16 "sustainment" package sale to Pakistan. Earlier, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) said in an announcement:

“This proposed sale ($450 million F-16 package) will support the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States by allowing Pakistan to retain interoperability with US and partner forces in ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and in preparation for future contingency operations.” The US State Department spokesman Ned Price talked about "shared values" and "shared interests" of his country with both India and Pakistan. He also recommended that "these two neighbors have relations with one another that are as constructive as can be possible".

US Secretary of State Tony Blinken (L), Indian External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar

Responding to Jaishankar's outburst, the US State Department spokesman Ned Price said, “We don’t view our relationship with Pakistan, and … our relationship with India as in relation to one another. These are both partners of ours with different points of emphasis in each. We look at both as partners, because we do have in many cases shared values. We do have in many cases shared interests. And the relationship we have with India stands on its own. The relationship we have with Pakistan stands on its own. We also want to do everything we can to see to it that these neighbors have relations with one another that are as constructive as can be possible. And so that’s another point of emphasis.”

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi recently attended a summit meeting of the China-Russia sponsored Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) held in Samarkand, Uzbekistan. India is a full member of this alliance which has been created to counter the US dominance in Asia. At the same time, New Delhi has also joined QUAD, a group of 4 nations (Australia, India, Japan and US) formed by the United States to counter China's rise. Simultaneous membership of these two competing alliances is raising serious questions about Prime Minister Narendra Modi's real intentions and trustworthiness. It appears that there is an Indian policy shift from "non-alignment" to "all-alignment".

Writing an Op Ed for The Indian Express about Jaishankar's fit of anger, Indian journalist Nirupama Subramanian put it in the following words: “As Delhi demonstrates “strategic autonomy” to engage with every side — Quad one week, and Russia and China the next at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in Samarkand — and work around Western sanctions to buy oil from Russia, and keep friends in all camps, it may have to come to terms that others in world play the same game.”

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

Jaishankar also raised the issue of long appointment wait times for Indians seeking visas to come to the United States. "In India, there are families unable to meet; students waiting for a long time. So it is a serious problem. But, I'm confident that, with the sincerity Secretary Blinken showed, they would address this, and with any support that we can provide, we hope things will improve," he said. Secretary Anthony Blinken said in response, "We had constraints from COVID about the number of people we could have in our embassies at any one time etc. We are now building back very determined really from that surging resources. We have a plan when it comes to India to address the backlog of visas that have built up. I think you'll see that play out in the coming months."

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

Currently, the waiting period for Indian applicants in New Delhi is 444 calendar days for student/exchange visitor visas, 758 calendar days for visitor visas and 354 calendar days for all other non-immigrant visas.

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

The appointment waiting period for Pakistani applicants in Islamabad is one calendar day for student/exchange visitor visas, 450 calendar days for visitor and one calendar day for all other non-immigrant visas. For the Chinese applicants in Beijing it is two calendar days for student/exchange visitor and students visas and three calendar days for all other non-immigrant visas.

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US-Pakistan F-16 Deal: Indian EAM Jaishankar Throws a Tantrum

“You’re not fooling anybody by saying these things," said Indian External Affairs Minister Subramanian Jaishankar to his American hosts in W...

www.southasiainvestor.com

 

[DabbuSardar]

Imagine hating India blindly so much that you try to throw shade on one of the best foreign ministers in the world.

This guy had single-handedly torn apart western media accusations about India on Russia China Oil import accustaions. He gives it back right in the face of western supremacists trying to blame and force India, tell me when did a Pakistani did that and not fold over his own country.

Just take a breath and answer honestly if every Pakistani wouldnt love to have such a guy defending their country on international platforms, you guys get similar dissing by western govts and media but nobody ever stands up in your govt.

Look at him and the man/woman/child(?) You have as a foreign minister.

 

[HAIDER]

This deal only serves the purpose to piss off India, after having huge trade relations with Russia. This deal is not in love of Pakistan.

 

[bharat62]

US-Pakistan F-16 Deal: Indian EAM Jaishankar Throws a Tantrum

“You’re not fooling anybody by saying these things," said Indian External Affairs Minister Subramanian Jaishankar to his American hosts in W...

www.southasiainvestor.com

“You’re not fooling anybody by saying these things," said Indian External Affairs Minister Subramanian Jaishankar to his American hosts in Washington. He was lashing out at the United States for the State Department's explanation for the $450 million F-16 "sustainment" package sale to Pakistan. Earlier, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) said in an announcement:

“This proposed sale ($450 million F-16 package) will support the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States by allowing Pakistan to retain interoperability with US and partner forces in ongoing counter-terrorism efforts and in preparation for future contingency operations.” The US State Department spokesman Ned Price talked about "shared values" and "shared interests" of his country with both India and Pakistan. He also recommended that "these two neighbors have relations with one another that are as constructive as can be possible".

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US Secretary of State Tony Blinken (L), Indian External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar

Responding to Jaishankar's outburst, the US State Department spokesman Ned Price said, “We don’t view our relationship with Pakistan, and … our relationship with India as in relation to one another. These are both partners of ours with different points of emphasis in each. We look at both as partners, because we do have in many cases shared values. We do have in many cases shared interests. And the relationship we have with India stands on its own. The relationship we have with Pakistan stands on its own. We also want to do everything we can to see to it that these neighbors have relations with one another that are as constructive as can be possible. And so that’s another point of emphasis.”

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi recently attended a summit meeting of the China-Russia sponsored Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) held in Samarkand, Uzbekistan. India is a full member of this alliance which has been created to counter the US dominance in Asia. At the same time, New Delhi has also joined QUAD, a group of 4 nations (Australia, India, Japan and US) formed by the United States to counter China's rise. Simultaneous membership of these two competing alliances is raising serious questions about Prime Minister Narendra Modi's real intentions and trustworthiness. It appears that there is an Indian policy shift from "non-alignment" to "all-alignment".

Writing an Op Ed for The Indian Express about Jaishankar's fit of anger, Indian journalist Nirupama Subramanian put it in the following words: “As Delhi demonstrates “strategic autonomy” to engage with every side — Quad one week, and Russia and China the next at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in Samarkand — and work around Western sanctions to buy oil from Russia, and keep friends in all camps, it may have to come to terms that others in world play the same game.”

​

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

Jaishankar also raised the issue of long appointment wait times for Indians seeking visas to come to the United States. "In India, there are families unable to meet; students waiting for a long time. So it is a serious problem. But, I'm confident that, with the sincerity Secretary Blinken showed, they would address this, and with any support that we can provide, we hope things will improve," he said. Secretary Anthony Blinken said in response, "We had constraints from COVID about the number of people we could have in our embassies at any one time etc. We are now building back very determined really from that surging resources. We have a plan when it comes to India to address the backlog of visas that have built up. I think you'll see that play out in the coming months."

​

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

Currently, the waiting period for Indian applicants in New Delhi is 444 calendar days for student/exchange visitor visas, 758 calendar days for visitor visas and 354 calendar days for all other non-immigrant visas.

​

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

The appointment waiting period for Pakistani applicants in Islamabad is one calendar day for student/exchange visitor visas, 450 calendar days for visitor and one calendar day for all other non-immigrant visas. For the Chinese applicants in Beijing it is two calendar days for student/exchange visitor and students visas and three calendar days for all other non-immigrant visas.

Related Links:
Haq's Musings
South Asia Investor Review
Modi's India: A Paper Elephant?
Can Washington Trust Modi's India as Key Ally in Asia?
Does Pakistan Need F-16s to Fight Terror?
Ukraine's Lesson For Pakistan: Never Give Up Nuclear Weapons
AUKUS: An Anglo Alliance Against China?
Russia Sanction: India Profiting From Selling Russian Oil
Indian Diplomat on Pakistan's "Resilience", "Strategic CPEC"
Vast Majority of Indians Believe Nuclear War Against Pakistan is "Winnable"
Riaz Haq's Youtube Channel

PakAlumni Social Network

US-Pakistan F-16 Deal: Indian EAM Jaishankar Throws a Tantrum

“You’re not fooling anybody by saying these things," said Indian External Affairs Minister Subramanian Jaishankar to his American hosts in W...

www.southasiainvestor.com

This attitude is what Imran khan praised . To say this thing in face of americans needs some courage .

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

This attitude is what Imran khan praised . To say this thing in face of americans needs some courage .

Both IK and Jaishankar are idiots.

This deal only serves the purpose to piss off India, after having huge trade relations with Russia.

I think that is good enough reason to partner with the US.

 

[Olympus81]

He has been a good foreign minister to India.

But in this instance, better choice of words could have been used. This sounds like a tantrum and indirectly conveys insecurity.

 

[nahtanbob]

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US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

Jaishankar also raised the issue of long appointment wait times for Indians seeking visas to come to the United States. "In India, there are families unable to meet; students waiting for a long time. So it is a serious problem. But, I'm confident that, with the sincerity Secretary Blinken showed, they would address this, and with any support that we can provide, we hope things will improve," he said. Secretary Anthony Blinken said in response, "We had constraints from COVID about the number of people we could have in our embassies at any one time etc. We are now building back very determined really from that surging resources. We have a plan when it comes to India to address the backlog of visas that have built up. I think you'll see that play out in the coming months."

​

US Visa Appointment Wait Time. Source: US State Department

Currently, the waiting period for Indian applicants in New Delhi is 444 calendar days for student/exchange visitor visas, 758 calendar days for visitor visas and 354 calendar days for all other non-immigrant visas.

What good is a 1 day wait time when all Pakistani students are subject to lengthy security checks ?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Olympus81 @RiazHaq

India may have saved a penny by purchasing a few barrels of cheaper Russian crude but has pissed off the big boys. While we may all be abusing Mir Bawla now, he may well have saved Pak for the long run by overthrowing IK and bringing in the Neutrals. With the huge financial crisis and the flood issue, Pak needs Uncle Sam by its side.

We have saying in our part of the world "You cant stay in water and pick up a fight with the crocodile"

Time will only tell.

Regards

 

[DabbuSardar]

India may have saved a penny by purchasing a few barrels of cheaper Russian crude but has pissed off the big boys.

Jaishankar gave it right back to europe and America because that is the Indian government and by extension indian peoples stand.
The only hole in your argument is, respectfully, india is also a big boy thats why it's govt can push back.

Enough pandering to ex big boy club, here's the new big boys club

 

[Ghessan]

two kids both offered candies, one of them having a habit of always looking to the other.

"oh look! what he has got" and begin crying not comparing but just for the reason of that kid being entertained.

they are just new to it and will learn gradually. how politely they are taken into a trap with everything good, everything look nice to the eyes and tones good to the ears.

this Russian fever once gone and milking this cow is solely in the hands of US then we will see how the spine is bent over. they will be injected to milk again and again.

 

[Areesh]

 

[Dalit]

This is the Indian way. Pretend you are a champion of diplomacy by ripping of both sides. No wonder the Americans have had enough.

Jaishankar gave it right back to europe and America because that is the Indian government and by extension indian peoples stand.
The only hole in your argument is, respectfully, india is also a big boy thats why it's govt can push back.

Enough pandering to ex big boy club, here's the new big boys club

You didn't do shit bud. All you did is confirm that India is unable to do anything other than register a meaningless protest. Your FM is insecure and undiplomatic.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Dalit bhai,

This is the Indian way. Pretend you are a champion of diplomacy by ripping of both sides.

This is not the Indian way. This is the world's way. Doesn't Pakistan do this-maintain good relationships with both USA and PRC? You are getting military aid from USA and at the some time developing JF17 with PRC and also getting billions of dollars from China as part of CPEC. What is sauce for the .....

Regards

 

[bharat62]

Imagine hating India that you try to throw shade on one of the best foreign ministers in the world.

This guy had single-handedly torn apart western media accusations about India on Russia China Oil import accustaions. He gives it back right in the face of western supremacists trying to blame and force India, tell me when did a Pakistani did that and not fold over his own country.

Just take a breath and answer honestly if every Pakistani wouldnt love to have such a guy defending their country on international platforms, you guys get similar dissing by western govts and media but nobody ever stands up in your govt.

Look at him and the man/woman/child(?) You have as a foreign minister.

He is the only foreign minister who can say things what others can' t say .

 

[SaadH]

He is the only foreign minister who can say things what others can' t say .

Pakistani buffoon FM's of late are not a benchmark, compared to them even high school kids will come across as seasoned statesmen...