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WASHINGTON: Two American lawmakers have introduced legislation in the U.S Congress to designate Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism, in a humiliating setback to Islamabad ahead of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's speech before the UN General Assembly.

The bill, H.R 6069 or the Pakistan State Sponsor of Terrorism Designation Act, enjoins the U.S administration to make a formal call on the matter within four months of its passage.

The President will have to issue a report within 90 days detailing whether or not Pakistan has provided support for international terrorism. Thirty days after that, the Secretary of State will have to issue a follow-up report containing either a determination that Pakistan is state sponsor of terrorism or a detailed justification as to why Pakistan does not meet the legal criteria for designation.

The bill was moved by Congressman Ted Poe from Texas, who is the Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism, and Congressman Dana Rohrabacher of California, who is a strong votary of the Baloch cause.

''Not only is Pakistan an untrustworthy ally, Islamabad has also aided and abetted enemies of the United States for years. From harboring Osama bin Laden to its cozy relationship with the Haqqani network, there is more than enough evidence to determine whose side Pakistan is on in the War on Terror. And it's not America's,'' Poe said in a statement on Tuesday announcing the bill.

The bill is a powerful expression of the mood among lawmakers increasingly agitated about Pakistan's ceaseless backing of terror groups that are taking American and Indian lives.

''It is time we stop paying Pakistan for its betrayal and designate it for what it is: a state sponsor of terrorism.'' Congressman Poe said.

In a separate statement ahead of the bill, Poe condemned the terrorist attack on the Uri military camp in India, saying this is just the ''latest consequence of Pakistan's longstanding irresponsible policy of supporting and providing operational space for all stripes of jihadi terrorist groups."

"Pakistan's reckless behavior in this regard is a serious security risk to its neighbors - and India unfortunately pays the price all too often. We condemn this tragic attack, as well as Pakistan's support for many criminals like the ones who carried it out, and stand firm in our commitment to our friends in India," Poe said.


Several Congressmen and Senators flagged the Uri attack for attention -- Senators Mark Warner, Pete Sessions, and Tom Cotton among them -- expressing sympathy for India. While many excoriated Pakistan, there was not one taker for Pakistan's conspiracy theory that somehow India had staged a false-flag attack on itself to divert attention from the "Kashmir issue." There were no takers for the "Kashmir issue" either.

If anything, the terrorist tag clung even harder to Pakistan following the arrest of the New York serial bomber who is now believed to have been radicalized after extended stays in Pakistan.

This is the first time in many years that there is talk of formally designating Pakistan a terrorist state. Such a measure was last discussed in 1993 after Pakistan engineered the Mumbai serial blasts through Dawood Ibrahim, killing 259 people in a terrorist attack that was a precursor to many such attacks across the world, including in New York, London, and Madrid.

Despite Pakistani footprints and fingerprints on many of those attacks, mainly on account of the permissive terrorist eco-system the country's military provides, Islamabad escaped punishment by pretending to be an ally in the war on terror.

That pretense has now been formally laid to rest, and many U.S generals, officials, and analysts have affirmed that Pakistan has played a double game - ripping off American tax payer dollars from a plaint U.S administration while nurturing terrorists who kill not just Indians, but also American civilians and soldiers.

All this had bubbled over literally on the morning of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's speech before the U.N, in which he is expected to highlight the "Kashmir issue" and India's human rights violation in the state. While there are many critics of New Delhi's policy in the state, in India itself and in the U.S., (including Congressman Dana Rohrabacher), the idea that Pakistan is a votary of peace or well-wisher of Kashmiris evidently does not sell in the U.S.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...r-of-terrorism-introduced-116092100070_1.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Top_Headlines


All this just before Nawaz Sharif's speech in the UNGA today, is pretty embarrassing. He has been unable to sell his 'K' card to the world at the UN so far. The Balochis too have pilloried Pakistan on its human rights violations yesterday at the UNHRC. And now this, which amounts to a triple whammy!

Even Afghanistan and Bangladesh have given calls for boycotting the SAARC summit to be held in Pakistan.

That said, it would be interesting to hear Sushma Swaraj's riposte to Nawaz's speech, on the 27th Sep. The gloves seem to be off especially after the Uri episode.

Simply put, Indo-Pak relations have hit a new low with little chance of a turnaround, at least in the near future.
 
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WASHINGTON: Two American lawmakers have introduced legislation in the U.S Congress to designate Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism, in a humiliating setback to Islamabad ahead of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's speech before the UN General Assembly.

The bill, H.R 6069 or the Pakistan State Sponsor of Terrorism Designation Act, enjoins the U.S administration to make a formal call on the matter within four months of its passage.

The President will have to issue a report within 90 days detailing whether or not Pakistan has provided support for international terrorism. Thirty days after that, the Secretary of State will have to issue a follow-up report containing either a determination that Pakistan is state sponsor of terrorism or a detailed justification as to why Pakistan does not meet the legal criteria for designation.

The bill was moved by Congressman Ted Poe from Texas, who is the Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism, and Congressman Dana Rohrabacher of California, who is a strong votary of the Baloch cause.

''Not only is Pakistan an untrustworthy ally, Islamabad has also aided and abetted enemies of the United States for years. From harboring Osama bin Laden to its cozy relationship with the Haqqani network, there is more than enough evidence to determine whose side Pakistan is on in the War on Terror. And it's not America's,'' Poe said in a statement on Tuesday announcing the bill.

The bill is a powerful expression of the mood among lawmakers increasingly agitated about Pakistan's ceaseless backing of terror groups that are taking American and Indian lives.

''It is time we stop paying Pakistan for its betrayal and designate it for what it is: a state sponsor of terrorism.'' Congressman Poe said.

In a separate statement ahead of the bill, Poe condemned the terrorist attack on the Uri military camp in India, saying this is just the ''latest consequence of Pakistan's longstanding irresponsible policy of supporting and providing operational space for all stripes of jihadi terrorist groups."

"Pakistan's reckless behavior in this regard is a serious security risk to its neighbors - and India unfortunately pays the price all too often. We condemn this tragic attack, as well as Pakistan's support for many criminals like the ones who carried it out, and stand firm in our commitment to our friends in India," Poe said.


Several Congressmen and Senators flagged the Uri attack for attention -- Senators Mark Warner, Pete Sessions, and Tom Cotton among them -- expressing sympathy for India. While many excoriated Pakistan, there was not one taker for Pakistan's conspiracy theory that somehow India had staged a false-flag attack on itself to divert attention from the "Kashmir issue." There were no takers for the "Kashmir issue" either.

If anything, the terrorist tag clung even harder to Pakistan following the arrest of the New York serial bomber who is now believed to have been radicalized after extended stays in Pakistan.

This is the first time in many years that there is talk of formally designating Pakistan a terrorist state. Such a measure was last discussed in 1993 after Pakistan engineered the Mumbai serial blasts through Dawood Ibrahim, killing 259 people in a terrorist attack that was a precursor to many such attacks across the world, including in New York, London, and Madrid.

Despite Pakistani footprints and fingerprints on many of those attacks, mainly on account of the permissive terrorist eco-system the country's military provides, Islamabad escaped punishment by pretending to be an ally in the war on terror.

That pretense has now been formally laid to rest, and many U.S generals, officials, and analysts have affirmed that Pakistan has played a double game - ripping off American tax payer dollars from a plaint U.S administration while nurturing terrorists who kill not just Indians, but also American civilians and soldiers.

All this had bubbled over literally on the morning of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's speech before the U.N, in which he is expected to highlight the "Kashmir issue" and India's human rights violation in the state. While there are many critics of New Delhi's policy in the state, in India itself and in the U.S., (including Congressman Dana Rohrabacher), the idea that Pakistan is a votary of peace or well-wisher of Kashmiris evidently does not sell in the U.S.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...r-of-terrorism-introduced-116092100070_1.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Top_Headlines


All this just before Nawaz Sharif's speech in the UNGA today, is pretty embarrassing. He has been unable to sell his 'K' card to the world at the UN so far. The Balochis too have pilloried Pakistan on its human rights violations yesterday at the UNHRC. And now this, which amounts to a triple whammy!

Even Afghanistan and Bangladesh have given calls for boycotting the SAARC summit to be held in Pakistan.

That said, it would be interesting to hear Sushma Swaraj's riposte to Nawaz's speech, on the 27th Sep. The gloves seem to be off especially after the Uri episode.

Simply put, Indo-Pak relations have hit a new low with little chance of a turnaround, at least in the near future.
Then Pakistan should test its ICBM urgently. USA will be responsible for the creation of of Pakistan as other NKorea.
 
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WASHINGTON: Two American lawmakers have introduced legislation in the U.S Congress to designate Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism, in a humiliating setback to Islamabad ahead of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's speech before the UN General Assembly.

The bill, H.R 6069 or the Pakistan State Sponsor of Terrorism Designation Act, enjoins the U.S administration to make a formal call on the matter within four months of its passage.

The President will have to issue a report within 90 days detailing whether or not Pakistan has provided support for international terrorism. Thirty days after that, the Secretary of State will have to issue a follow-up report containing either a determination that Pakistan is state sponsor of terrorism or a detailed justification as to why Pakistan does not meet the legal criteria for designation.

The bill was moved by Congressman Ted Poe from Texas, who is the Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism, and Congressman Dana Rohrabacher of California, who is a strong votary of the Baloch cause.

''Not only is Pakistan an untrustworthy ally, Islamabad has also aided and abetted enemies of the United States for years. From harboring Osama bin Laden to its cozy relationship with the Haqqani network, there is more than enough evidence to determine whose side Pakistan is on in the War on Terror. And it's not America's,'' Poe said in a statement on Tuesday announcing the bill.

The bill is a powerful expression of the mood among lawmakers increasingly agitated about Pakistan's ceaseless backing of terror groups that are taking American and Indian lives.

''It is time we stop paying Pakistan for its betrayal and designate it for what it is: a state sponsor of terrorism.'' Congressman Poe said.

In a separate statement ahead of the bill, Poe condemned the terrorist attack on the Uri military camp in India, saying this is just the ''latest consequence of Pakistan's longstanding irresponsible policy of supporting and providing operational space for all stripes of jihadi terrorist groups."

"Pakistan's reckless behavior in this regard is a serious security risk to its neighbors - and India unfortunately pays the price all too often. We condemn this tragic attack, as well as Pakistan's support for many criminals like the ones who carried it out, and stand firm in our commitment to our friends in India," Poe said.


Several Congressmen and Senators flagged the Uri attack for attention -- Senators Mark Warner, Pete Sessions, and Tom Cotton among them -- expressing sympathy for India. While many excoriated Pakistan, there was not one taker for Pakistan's conspiracy theory that somehow India had staged a false-flag attack on itself to divert attention from the "Kashmir issue." There were no takers for the "Kashmir issue" either.

If anything, the terrorist tag clung even harder to Pakistan following the arrest of the New York serial bomber who is now believed to have been radicalized after extended stays in Pakistan.

This is the first time in many years that there is talk of formally designating Pakistan a terrorist state. Such a measure was last discussed in 1993 after Pakistan engineered the Mumbai serial blasts through Dawood Ibrahim, killing 259 people in a terrorist attack that was a precursor to many such attacks across the world, including in New York, London, and Madrid.

Despite Pakistani footprints and fingerprints on many of those attacks, mainly on account of the permissive terrorist eco-system the country's military provides, Islamabad escaped punishment by pretending to be an ally in the war on terror.

That pretense has now been formally laid to rest, and many U.S generals, officials, and analysts have affirmed that Pakistan has played a double game - ripping off American tax payer dollars from a plaint U.S administration while nurturing terrorists who kill not just Indians, but also American civilians and soldiers.

All this had bubbled over literally on the morning of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's speech before the U.N, in which he is expected to highlight the "Kashmir issue" and India's human rights violation in the state. While there are many critics of New Delhi's policy in the state, in India itself and in the U.S., (including Congressman Dana Rohrabacher), the idea that Pakistan is a votary of peace or well-wisher of Kashmiris evidently does not sell in the U.S.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...r-of-terrorism-introduced-116092100070_1.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Top_Headlines


All this just before Nawaz Sharif's speech in the UNGA today, is pretty embarrassing. He has been unable to sell his 'K' card to the world at the UN so far. The Balochis too have pilloried Pakistan on its human rights violations yesterday at the UNHRC. And now this, which amounts to a triple whammy!

Even Afghanistan and Bangladesh have given calls for boycotting the SAARC summit to be held in Pakistan.

That said, it would be interesting to hear Sushma Swaraj's riposte to Nawaz's speech, on the 27th Sep. The gloves seem to be off especially after the Uri episode.

Simply put, Indo-Pak relations have hit a new low with little chance of a turnaround, at least in the near future.

Indian sources again. Is this another "Russia refused to participate in the exercise" bull excreta? Prove us wrong please, give us some neutral sources. At least I couldn't find any non Indian source. Something like this would be big news in the US media.
 
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I had to take my words back - too sleepy at 12:00 in the night.

I was thinking the HR 6069 was about the foreclosure act from 2010 (I knew people who benefitted from this).

Had to track down Ted Poe's site (poe.house.gov) to see that present congress' HR 6069 is indeed Pakistan Terror State bill.
 
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indians what was this?
if india do then its a big achievement not state sponsor terrorism.:omghaha:
Pakistan should help all separatist movements in india.
 
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"The bill is largely symbolic considering the current Congress is now in its final days, and only a small fraction of the thousands of bill become law in any case."

I had to take my words back - too sleepy at 12:00 in the night.

I was thinking the HR 6069 was about the foreclosure act from 2010 (I knew people who benefitted from this).

Had to track down Ted Poe's site (poe.house.gov) to see that present congress' HR 6069 is indeed Pakistan Terror State bill.

http://poe.house.gov/2016/9/chairma...an-state-sponsor-of-terrorism-designation-act

It's true but I don't see it passing...
 
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Indian sources again. Is this another "Russia refused to participate in the exercise" bull excreta? Prove us wrong please, give us some neutral sources. At least I couldn't find any non Indian source. Something like this would be big news in the US media.
The bill is real, but it has no takers, other than the usual suspects (Indian sponsored congressmen). Ironically, even the guy who was against subsidizing the F-16s for Pakistan, doesn't seem to be supporting this move.

This won't have any takers. There is a reason why one of the largest US embassies in the world, exists in Pakistan (one that is continuing to expand); The US knows that its relationship with Pakistan is important, and the last thing it wants is another Iran, but with a successful nuclear program. Pakistan will also likely double down on China and CPEC.

Designating Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism will destroy any hopes that the US had of stabilizing the region. At this point, the US will have zero leverage over Pakistan, and Pakistan will likely openly and actively go against US goals.
 
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Indian lobby is really desperate here but they will be slapped.

Just now, i saw a video where some Baloch people are talking in UN...How come these people are talking in UN and on which capacity???

No idea who let the dog out.. but whoever did let a very cheap dog who can't read the statement written by Ajit Doval in the plainest English.
 
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Just now, i saw a video where some Baloch people are talking in UN...How come these people are talking in UN and on which capacity???

Usually through NGOs that they themselves set up, and ask for some time to present their views. They don't tend to get much attention, and their claims are usually not taken seriously, often times ignored.
 
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It is always interesting when Indians come along posting threads while Americans themselves are like who is this "PUNIT" or "Raj" posting on my behalf


  • Human Right violation being done by India against civilians (300 killed)
  • New York bomber Afghan born , US citizen
  • We caught this spy red handed (Kalbogen)

What if this Afghan boy was meeting Kalbogen ?

Yet Po & Raj want to work to bring a bill against Pakistan
 
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