US kills more than 100 Assad regime fighters after they attacked SDF forces in Deir er Zor

[Khagan1923]

YPG/PKK is a cult. According to some morons every single cult who doesn't pray to god but instead sees a person as god and prays to this person is "secular". YPG/PKK being secular is one of the biggest lies western media pushes since the Syrian Civil War started. They pray to Öcalan and many of them are even Christians. 'There is nothing "secular" about SDF.

 

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Some leaked Russian mercenaries killed by US in that battle:

 

[mike2000 is back]

Stop spamming threads!!!! Someone ban this idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about. Your knowledge on international relations is non existent. Ban this aktroll.

I didn't respond much to that part of his comment for that reason. SINCE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE, and it seems to be almost a repetition of some of his previous comments.

Some leaked Russian mercenaries killed by US in that battle:

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undercover special forces/intelligent services I suppose.

 

[MMM-E]

I didn't respond much to that part of his comment for that reason. SINCE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE, and it seems to be almost a repetition of some of his previous comments.

because of you have no answer to my question

"" Every body is protecting their assest on the ground, for the U.S and coalition it is the Kurds ""

I am saying again its is not the Kurds ...even there are over 350.000 Syrian Kurds in Turkey which so hate Pkk-Ypg terrorists

its Pkk-Ypg terrorist organization which killed more than 40.000 people in Turkey since 1985
YPG = PKK and The US ,Uk , France , Germany ,etc recognized PKK as a terrorist organization

on the other hand SAA or FSA is not a terrorist organization

 

[mike2000 is back]

on the other hand SAA or FSA is not a terrorist organization

it depends on who you ask. For Russia/ Iran and their allies FSA are all terrorists(more than even ISIS in their eyes). So it all depends on which countries/powers you ask.

 

[TurkeyForever]

Syria population was 4 million in 1960. In 2010 it was 20 million. 5 times increase over 5 decades.

Turkey was 12 million in 1920's now it's just over 80 million.

over 200.000 Turkish soldiers are waiting for order on the Turkish-Syria-Iraqi border line and 27.000 Turkish Army trained FSA Fighters

Good post bro, but what is the source for 200,000 soldiers waiting?

I believe a very small amount entered Syria.

Every body is protecting their assest on the ground, for the U.S and coalition it is the Kurds, for Russia it is the SAA/Hezbollah and it's other allied militias, for Turkey it is the FSA and other Turkmen groups etc. So it's normal for the collation to draw a red line for Assad/Iran backed militias/army. I believe they got the message.


Good question which many people overlook and don't even pay attention to.
The truth is that Turkey's case is special and different(it has always been the case). Turkey is a MAJOR NATO ALLY/MEMBER and a major E.U Partner(for example they have free market trade deal/customs union with the E.U which very few non E.U countries have) . This fact alone changes EVERYTHING. So there are things Western powers will tolerate when it comes to a NATO ally like Turkey which they won't for any other Middle Eastern/Muslim country that isn't part of NATO like say Iran, Iraq, Egypt etc. It's also for similar reason western powers turned a blind eye and didn't intervene when Turkey invaded Cyprus. Had it been say Iran or Saddam's Iraq who tried that, then they would have been crushed with no questions asked.

So, I don't believe there will be any such clashes between the U/S/Coalition forces and Turkey. They might have some disagreements and conflict of interests in this aspect, but they won't fight each other. They will still come to some sort of agreement/negotiated settlement/concessions. Which I hope will be the case soon enough. Since it's inconceivable that NATO will fight one of its own member. This might tarnish the reputation of the organization and set a bad precedent, which I'm sure both sides are aware of this fact.

You know when all this is over, I wouldn't be surprised if the US + Russia + Turkey are all in it together in a coordinated plan to pull Iran in

zoruna mı gitti aşagılık it ... kes sesini kafana sıktırtma herkes haddini bilecek . heskes istedigi yorumu yapar sana mı soracagız ne yazıp yazmayacagımızı soytarı ,
Senin psikolojik harpten haberin var mı ? Istihbarata karsı koymak nedir bilirmisin ? Ulusarası ilişkilermiş . ABD Türkiyeye tek kurşun bile sıkamaz bu NATO nun sonu olur
,, işin gücün milleti provoke etmek vereceksin Emniyete ugrasmayacaksın

Ordumuz savaş halinde bunun gibi mikroplar hala siyaset peşin de ... başlarım chp sine de akp si ne de . düşün milletin yakasından capulcu fetöcü hain sürüsü


You have no idea whats going on in Syria . Turkish Army will be in Manbij after Afrin and Idlib and everybody will see it

and The US can not fight against Turkey ... The US can only arms embargo on Turkey as like in 1975 ..nothing else

AHAHAH you guys are funny fighting like little girls.

please stop speaking Turko Mongol on an English forum

Turko mongol AHAHAHAH

 

[MMM-E]

it depends on who you ask. For Russia/ Iran and their allies FSA are all terrorists(more than even ISIS in their eyes). So it all depends on which countries/powers you ask

it depends on The US , the EU and NATO , Pkk is a terrorist organization , but FSA is not a terrorist organization

and we dont care about criminal murderer Russia/ Iran and Syrian Regime who killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in Syria

 

[LeGenD]

The so-called Russian mercenaries were actually professional soldiers (and veterans of conflict in Ukraine). Russian sources admit that this was the first major clash between a Russian force and American since Vietnam War.

https://thedefensepost.com/2018/02/10/russians-killed-coalition-strikes-deir-ezzor-syria/

*https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...d-to-kill-scores-of-russian-fighters-in-syria

*U.S. forces killed scores of Russian contract soldiers in Syria last week in what may be the deadliest clash between citizens of the former foes since the Cold War, according to a U.S. official and three Russians familiar with the matter.

More than 200 mercenaries, mostly Russians fighting on behalf of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, died in a failed attack on a base and refinery held by U.S. and U.S.-backed forces in the oil-rich Deir Ezzor region, two of the Russians said. The U.S. official put the death toll at about 100, with 200 to 300 injured.

The Russian assault may have been a rogue operation, underscoring the complexity of a conflict that started as a domestic crackdown only to morph into a proxy war involving Islamic extremists, stateless Kurds and regional powers Iran, Turkey and now Israel. Russia's military said it had nothing to do with the attack and the U.S. military accepted the claim. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis called the whole thing "perplexing," but provided no further details.

"Coalition officials were in regular communication with Russian counterparts before, during and after the thwarted, unprovoked attack," U.S. Colonel Thomas F. Veale, a military spokesman, said in a statement. "Russian officials assured coalition officials they would not engage coalition forces in the vicinity."

The offensive began about 8 kilometers (5 miles) east of the Euphrates River de-confliction line late on Feb. 7, when adversaries fired rounds and advanced in a "battalion-sized dismounted formation supported by artillery, tanks, multiple-launch rocket systems and mortars," Veale said. No fatalities were reported on the coalition side and “enemy vehicles and personnel who turned around and headed back west were not targeted.”

'Barbaric Aggression'

The government in Damascus called the U.S. action "barbaric aggression" and a "war crime."

The death toll from the incident, already about five times more than Russia's official losses since it entered the war in 2015, is still rising, according to one mercenary commander. He said by phone on condition of anonymity that dozens of his wounded men are still being treated at military hospitals in St. Petersburg and Moscow.

Many of the Russians killed or injured were veterans of the Ukraine conflict, according to Alexander Ionov, the head of a Kremlin-funded organization that fosters ties to separatists who’s fought alongside pro-Assad forces in Syria. It's not clear who was paying the soldiers of fortune, whether it was Russia directly, its allies in the war, Syria and Iran, or a third party.

Reports in local media have said that Wagner -- a shadowy organization often referred to as Russia’s answer to Blackwater, the U.S. military company now called Academi -- was hired by Assad or his allies to guard Syrian energy facilities in exchange for oil concessions.

There's a refinery in Deir Ezzor that once funded Islamic State operations that's now "crucial" to Assad's plans to finance the reconstruction of Syria once a peace deal is finally reached, according to Yury Barmin, a Middle East analyst at the Russian International Affairs Council in Moscow.

‘Big Scandal’

Russia's Defense Ministry seemed to refer to the refinery in its statement about the attack, accusing the U.S. of using its "illegal presence" in Syria as an excuse to "seize economic assets" instead of fighting terrorists.

Vladimir Frolov, a former Russian diplomat and lawmaker who's now an independent political analyst in Moscow, said the clash marked the first such armed exchange between the two powers since the Vietnam War.

"This is a big scandal and a reason for an acute international crisis," Frolov said. "But Russia will pretend nothing happened."

President Vladimir Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, declined to comment on reports that Russian nationals were killed in Syria, saying the Kremlin only tracks data on the country’s armed forces.

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Did they mistake US Army for Ukrainian in Syria? I wonder who called the shot.

Very strange.

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/963456737469779969

https://twitter.com/x/status/963471165510619136

 

[xyxmt]

Meh. Clean energy is the future. Fighting for gas these days is as silly as fighting for religion. These days science and technology is where it's at, not religion and fossil fuels. Just look at Tesla, they already have electric racing cars these days.

you still cant run an Industrial or even residential furnace with Tesla Batteries.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

you still cant run an Industrial or even residential furnace with Tesla Batteries.

Solar, nuclear, hydroelectric. Don't have so many babies. Don't need to use so much energy.

 

[xyxmt]

Solar, nuclear, hydroelectric. Don't have so many babies. Don't need to use so much energy.

either you have babies or keep pets, both require energy that Tesla Batteries cant provide

 

[xyxmt]

Solar, nuclear, hydroelectric. Don't have so many babies. Don't need to use so much energy.

many industries cannot run only on natural Gas, examples fertilizer and cement and iron

 

[mingle]

Now it's Russians turn to fix American s bad news for Yanks from Astan to Syria. Era of jingoism is getting over.

 

[500]

More identified Russians:

Шихов Алексей "Кадет" 13.10.1991, г. Нижний Новгород
Владимир Калсигин "Апостол"
Руслан Гаврилов, поселок Кедровое