US is overestimated. China is underestimated

[kankan326]

Within recent 3 years, US lost/will lose 4 important wars to China and Russia.

1, Trade war with China. The war"easy to win", completely lost. No need to say more.
2, War with Covid. Still remember how confident and cheerful the whole west was when China shut Wuhan city three years ago? US believed democratic countries are immune to the virus and it is the country with best preparation for it. Sadly the reality is opposite.
3, Economic war with Russia. When Biden confidently announced US and its allies had launched economic nuclear bomb to Russia, from his face we could almost see a dark cloud is approaching to Russia. Yet he never thought the bomb dropped on its pawns heads. Russia stands firmly now.
4, Proxy war in Ukraine. Obviously Russia is winning the Ukraine war. Again opposite to US' expectation.

Bisides these 4 major wars, US also lost some smaller wars with China.

1, Hongkong color revolution.
2, Science/tech war. Huawei sanction as an example.
3, Propaganda war on Xinjinag issues. So far none of Muslim countries bought its lies. By the way, I believe the lies, such as the genocide, or blood cotton, can not cheat most politicians. Not at all. These lies or propaganda are too coarse. Most politicians are too smart to be cheated by these little tricks. Actually US never expected to cheat politicians. It knows,1) No politician outside China would deny these obvious lies. 2)The lies can instigate hatred toward China among ordinary people. 3) Then in turn put pressure on their politicians. Luckily politicians in Muslims countries don't care ordinary people's feeling too much.

Several days ago Biden confidently said US will militarily intervene if China "invades" Taiwan. I hope it's a bluff. Otherwise it would be a catastrophic loss for US army. US' image of Super Power will be gone forever. The Art of War says:" To win a war, you should clearly know you enemy and know yourself." Today's US knows neither itself nor its enemies.

 

[avenuepark57]

Within recent 3 years, US lost/will lose 4 important wars to China and Russia.

1, Trade war with China. So called the war"easy to win". Completely lost. No need to say more.
2, War with Covid. Still remember how confident and cheerful the whole west was when China shut Wuhan city three years ago? US believed democratic countries are immune to the virus and it is the country with best preparation for it. Sadly the reality is opposite.
3, Economic war with Russia. When Biden confidently announced US and its allies had launched economic nuclear bomb to Russia, from his face we could almost see a dark cloud is approaching to Russia. Yet he never thought the bomb dropped on its pawns heads. Russia stands firmly now.
4, Proxy war in Ukraine. Obviously Russia is winning the Ukraine war. Again opposite to US' expectation.

Bisides these 4 major wars, US also lost some smaller wars with China.

1, Hongkong color revolution.
2, Huawei sanctions.
3, Propaganda war on Xinjinag issues. So far none of Muslim countries bought its lies. By the way, I believe the lies, such as the genocide, or blood cotton, can not cheat most politicians. Not al all. These lies or propaganda are too coarse. Most politicians are too smart to be cheated by these little tricks. Actually US never expected to cheat politicians. It knows,1) No politican outside China would deny these obvious lies. 2)It wanted to use the lies to instigate hatred to China among ordinary people. 3) Then in turn put pressure to their politicians. Luckily Muslims countries don't care ordinary people's feeling too much.

Several days ago Biden confidently said US will militarily intervene if China "invades" Taiwan. I hope it's a bluff. Otherwise it would be a catastrophic loss for US army. US' image of Super Power will forever be gone. The Art of War says:" To win a war, you should know the enemy and know yourse." Today's US knows neither itself nor its enemy.

A war with Taiwan will really show the

1) strength of China's domestic defense industry-
Tanks against atgm,
Jets while taking frequent sorties,
Naval ships and cruise missiles...whether they can be intercepted or not,

Their overall chain of command, battle hardiness, triservice co operation and interoperability

One thing I have taken away in current Russian Ukrainian war is Tanks are no longer deciding factor of a war. The big heavy weapons are now fast becoming relics of a bygone era.

The modern warfare seems to revolve around small and light weapons that do precision targeting. Advanced Anti-Tank missiles and MANPADS have made Tanks and attack helis somewhat obsolete. Kind of like gunships destroyers of the past. The most powerful platform emerged in this war is small drones and loitering munitions. Another lesson to learn in this war is importance of surveillance and secure communication.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

A war with Taiwan will really show the

1) strength of China's domestic defense industry-
Tanks against atgm,
Jets while taking frequent sorties,
Naval ships and cruise missiles...whether they can be intercepted or not,

Their overall chain of command, battle hardiness, triservice co operation and interoperability

One thing I have taken away in current Russian Ukrainian war is Tanks are no longer deciding factor of a war. The big heavy weapons are now fast becoming relics of a bygone era.

The modern warfare seems to revolve around small and light weapons that do precision targeting. Advanced Anti-Tank missiles and MANPADS have made Tanks and attack helis somewhat obsolete. Kind of like gunships destroyers of the past. The most powerful platform emerged in this war is small drones and loitering munitions. Another lesson to learn in this war is importance of surveillance and secure communication.

China was never a tank dependent army though, unlike Russians. PLA ground forces has a completely different doctrine than Russian Army as well, since Soviets never sent doctrinal advisors to China and China couldn't replicate the Russian way of war due to having no capability of implementing it due to historical economic conditions. And once Chinese economic conditions improved, China already had a working doctrine driven by real world experience in conflicts in the civil war, Korea, India and Vietnam.

I also think you're learning the wrong lesson about helicopters. For thousands+ MANPADs, only a few Ka-52s were taken down. Helicopters are proving to be not only not obsolete, but they're kings of the battlefield both in terms of recon and in firepower.

 

[PakFactor]

China was never a tank dependent army though, unlike Russians. PLA ground forces has a completely different doctrine than Russian Army as well, since Soviets never sent doctrinal advisors to China and China couldn't replicate the Russian way of war due to having no capability of implementing it due to historical economic conditions. And once Chinese economic conditions improved, China already had a working doctrine driven by real world experience in conflicts in the civil war, Korea, India and Vietnam.

I also think you're learning the wrong lesson about helicopters. For thousands+ MANPADs, only a few Ka-52s were taken down. Helicopters are proving to be not only not obsolete, but they're kings of the battlefield both in terms of recon and in firepower.

Issue with Russians they failed in the combined arms approach to war hence the losses in tanks and gunships. Hopefully, they learn from this conflict and China goes back to drawing the board to make sure there’s not a repeat of what we are seeing in Europe.

 

[Sayfullah]

3, Propaganda war on Xinjinag issues. So far none of Muslim countries bought its lies. By the way, I believe the lies, such as the genocide, or blood cotton, can not cheat most politicians. Not al all. These lies or propaganda are too coarse. Most politicians are too smart to be cheated by these little tricks. Actually US never expected to cheat politicians. It knows,1) No politican outside China would deny these obvious lies. 2)It wanted to use the lies to instigate hatred to China among ordinary people. 3) Then in turn put pressure to their politicians. Luckily Muslims countries don't care ordinary people's feeling too much.

In Sha Allah one day

Chinese will face many more Osman Batur’s !

 

[doorstar]

A war with Taiwan will really show the

1) strength of China's domestic defense industry-
Tanks against atgm,
Jets while taking frequent sorties,
Naval ships and cruise missiles...whether they can be intercepted or not,

Their overall chain of command, battle hardiness, triservice co operation and interoperability

One thing I have taken away in current Russian Ukrainian war is Tanks are no longer deciding factor of a war. The big heavy weapons are now fast becoming relics of a bygone era.

The modern warfare seems to revolve around small and light weapons that do precision targeting. Advanced Anti-Tank missiles and MANPADS have made Tanks and attack helis somewhat obsolete. Kind of like gunships destroyers of the past. The most powerful platform emerged in this war is small drones and loitering munitions. Another lesson to learn in this war is importance of surveillance and secure communication.

if wishes were horses, shudars and dalits will be riding them while supporting a dastar on their heads.

Chinese will never fight Chinese of Taiwan.

it looks same on the indian side i.e they will not fight China, tho for different reasons. no matter what sleepy joe is instructed to say about it.

the other day there was an amreeki official in india spouting concern about Chinese being in Ladakh but it seemed like no matter how he tried to provoke indians into a war, they remained uninterested.

 

[jhungary]

Let me tell you why I "Haha" this article

If you go into a war thinking you are being underestimated and your enemy are being overestimated, then you will probably going to be carry out from this war. Every war started the same, it does not give you any advantage just because you are more advance than the next guy, if you go in with this mentality, you have already lost. And I have learn this 17 and 19 years ago.

 

[Goritoes]

Any country who thinks USA is overestimated, they have already lost to USA... While someone from China is writing this post, USN Ohio Class Sub armed with 20 ICBM's lurking around Pacific oceans, which can devastate any country on a moment notice. World needs peace, specially after so much death from Covid, lets not talk about war when there is one already raging in the Europe.

 

[etylo]

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Chinese will face many more Osman Batur’s !

Dream in your and Turkish's sick minds, you can draw all the imagined maps you want in your fantasy world, you are just being a lackey to the West and US CIA.

 

[doorstar]

The latest satellite images show a lot of Indian and Chinese military activities on both sides.

DBO ALG has been activated ()

Reinforcements pushed to DBO ( )

Reinforcements pushed to both North and South Pangong Tso sectors ( )

Chinese army activities and reinforcements increased in the North and South Pangong Tso areas ( )

Indian Army acquiring more bridge laying tanks as well as Wheeled AFVs with long range ATGMs for enhancing the Offensive strike into Enemy territories.. The Indian military command has already formed the Tetra Group to counter China

Reliance Jio has expanded the reach of its 4G services in Spangmik village close to Pangong lake, an area which has been a friction point between India and China in recent years.

mere posturing to placate the amreeki pests as well as the modi bakhts and keyboard warriors. Indian leaders (excluding modi and shah, both of whom currently seem to be on a tight leash) are not complete morons like the ukrainians, they know amreeki MO far too well to fall into their trap.

 

[doorstar]

When 300,000 Indian troops are facing equal number of Chinese troops, then there is no chance that Chinese would advance an inch forward.

rest assured they don't or rather had no intention of moving forward towards your positions. they only came to prevent you from making a move on aksai chin and GB (as you were encouraged to do by amreeka)

I don't have any up to date info on it. tho you can easily find it out for me by advancing towards GB and cutting off Karakoram highway.

 

[chinasun]

You can't stop America from continuing to weaken, the future is in Asia.Go smoke marijuana. It will make you happy.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

it is only a matter of time before the US collapses from within, Putin sees it and acts swiftly.

Russia is truly the one getting underestimated, by the west, for the 3rd time since Nepoleon

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

also I think China is trying to mimic the success of the US under FDR : the later you get into the fight the more spoils you take.

so let the transition period of global power run its course, China's plan A of regional integration already met major setbacks by covid anyway

 

[Beast]

A war with Taiwan will really show the

1) strength of China's domestic defense industry-
Tanks against atgm,
Jets while taking frequent sorties,
Naval ships and cruise missiles...whether they can be intercepted or not,

Their overall chain of command, battle hardiness, triservice co operation and interoperability

One thing I have taken away in current Russian Ukrainian war is Tanks are no longer deciding factor of a war. The big heavy weapons are now fast becoming relics of a bygone era.

The modern warfare seems to revolve around small and light weapons that do precision targeting. Advanced Anti-Tank missiles and MANPADS have made Tanks and attack helis somewhat obsolete. Kind of like gunships destroyers of the past. The most powerful platform emerged in this war is small drones and loitering munitions. Another lesson to learn in this war is importance of surveillance and secure communication.

Exactly what PLA has... Taiwan will not last even a day against PLA.

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Chinese will face many more Osman Batur’s !

No wonder he is dead without achieve his evil imperialism.