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US hopes India will persuade Karzai on troops.
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Published 2013-12-11 07:43:18

WASHINGTON: The United States expressed hope Tuesday that India would persuade Afghan President Hamid Karzai to sign a deal allowing US troops to stay, as lawmakers voiced outrage at the delay.


Testifying before a Senate committee, a senior US official voiced confidence that Afghanistan would eventually complete an agreement for some 12,000 US troops to stay after 2014, despite Karzai's insistence that he will leave the decision to his successor.

“His upcoming visit to India could, I think, be quite influential, because he highly respects and has good relations with the Indian government,” said James Dobbins, the US special representative on Afghanistan and Pakistan.


Karzai visits India later this week.

Dobbins said that all regional powers — except Iran — had encouraged Karzai to sign the accord, which would authorise US troops to keep training Afghans after next year's official withdrawal of combat forces first sent in 2001 following the September 11 attacks.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, Chinese President Xi Jinping, Russian President Vladimir Putin are among the leaders who have encouraged Karzai to sign the agreement, Dobbins said.

“Several of these leaders are no fans of an American military presence in Central Asia, but all recognise that without continued international military and economic support, Afghanistan risks falling back into civil war,” Dobbins said.

Such a war would lead to a “rise in extremist groups, outflow of refugees and disruptions in commerce that would threaten the region as a whole,” Dobbins said.

India, where Karzai studied, has enthusiastically supported the US military role and poured $2 billion in reconstruction aid into Afghanistan, whose former Taliban regime sheltered virulently anti-Indian militants and was allied with New Delhi's historic rival Pakistan.

Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel also said on a weekend visit to Kabul that he received assurances that Afghanistan would eventually sign the Bilateral Security Agreement, which lays out future rules for foreign troops, including limits on raids on homes.

Karzai initially endorsed the deal but later said the signature could take place only after the presidential election in April, warning against a Nato presence if it just meant “more bombs and killings.””To the Americans, I say: why must the Afghan people pay the price for this war on terrorism?” Karzai told the French newspaper Le Monde in an interview published Tuesday.

His stance has outraged US officials and lawmakers, who have threatened a complete pullout if Karzai does not sign by the end of the year.

“This brinksmanship is unwarranted and, frankly, insulting to the sacrifices made by the United States military and taxpayers, and is not in Afghanistan's best interest,” said Senator Robert Menendez, a member of President Barack Obama's Democratic Party and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Senator Bob Corker, the top Republican on the committee, accused Karzai of “flakiness” and of being an “irrational and irresponsible partner.” Dobbins said that Karzai was likely seeking to maintain leverage and was calculating that the United States would keep troops in Afghanistan no matter what. “We try to tell him that American opinion isn't exactly where he thinks it is and that he is playing with fire,” Dobbins said.

Opinion polls have shown that the US public is eager to end the country's longest-ever war, which has killed more than 2,000 US troops.

In 2011, the United States withdrew from Iraq after failing to secure a similar troop agreement at the end of a separate, more controversial war.

US hopes India will persuade Karzai on troops - DAWN.COM
 
India should persuade otherwise our investment will be in danger.
 
actually,I think Af should agree on it for its own interest.atleast for 5 years so that they could increase their quality of training and become somewhat self sufficient in training sector.because a long war is ahead.
 
Afgan govt knows better what is good for them. We cant allow Americans to be raging bull killing people at randomness. USA will have to take responsibility if they need to stay there. As Simple as it is.

If Karzai has reservations then there must be some reason rite? Have we found out what is that reason?
 
Americans should leave Afganistan.... Its a independent country... even after that they want to be there they should stop asking for special immunity to troops..
 
If there was any proof needed that India is an American puppet, this proves it.

America always use India to benefit America and India has ALWAYS been a stooge for the Americans that do their bidding.
 
If there was any proof needed that India is an American puppet, this proves it.

America always use India to benefit America and India has ALWAYS been a stooge for the Americans that do their bidding.

If having a partnership with US would mean being a stooge, then it was not India which was a stooge from 1971. We all know who that country is and what bidding they did against their fellow commies bringing the entire commie bloc down.
 
If having a partnership with US would mean being a stooge, then it was not India which was a stooge from 1971. We all know who that country is and what bidding they did against their fellow commies bringing the entire commie bloc down.

I didn't say anything about relationship.

It's about being an American puppet which India is.

America has relations with many countries but not all of them are American puppets.

We have an independent foreign policy and if the Americans tell us what to do, we tell them to go to hell.

Indians are happy obeying Americans commands like a master telling its slave what to do.

We have fought the Americans in war and defeated them. We have never taken a backward step to the Americans in any area whether it's foreign policy, military, economics, technology, weapons, sports, currency, trade, wars, etc.

Americans know very well what they get from us and we tell them in no uncertain terms.

When has India ever said 'no' to America in anything important?

Didn't you support the war in Iraq?
 
If having a partnership with US would mean being a stooge, then it was not India which was a stooge from 1971. We all know who that country is and what bidding they did against their fellow commies bringing the entire commie bloc down.

Why stop at 1971? I thought it started in late 50s or early 60s
 
If there was any proof needed that India is an American puppet, this proves it.

America always use India to benefit America and India has ALWAYS been a stooge for the Americans that do their bidding.

Going by that logic China should be India's pupet because we always insist on China to ask Pakistan to stop terrorism...
 
If there was any proof needed that India is an American puppet, this proves it.
Talking like an illiterate as usual? Do you even bother to read before spewing rubbish? Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, Chinese President Xi Jinping, Russian President Vladimir Putin are among the leaders who have encouraged Karzai to sign the agreement.

So are all the above puppets of America? Is China a stooge of the Americans too?
 
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lolzzz i always had an imprssion specially here on PDF that karzai was alive deu to US/NATO presence in afghansiatn and it helped him blossom & fourish his very own opium & gunnrunnig (p) Ltd

strange why now he wants USA & NATO to pack there bags ?

and stranger enof USA asking indias help in persuading karzai for the same ???

anyway its good people feel that USA will leave afghanistan lolzzz i dont think so

but its hillarious how some noble pakistanies & 'all weather freinds' think that india is US puppet when we all know who destroyed there socio economick culture and foriegn policy so that USA and dicintegrade USSR and settle the score of US loss in vietnaam and same people are fighting like paid help for USA to hunt down tallibunnies and where US drines fly and kill innocent people at will but they still think india is a US puppet and they are not :haha:

funny isnt it :azn:
 
Going by that logic China should be India's pupet because we always insist on China to ask Pakistan to stop terrorism...
Arre why bring Chinese here. This cunt is a falseflagger. He knows shit bout Chinese History and many times i have cornered him on Chinese History. He knows more bout Pakistan tough. I dont know if Mods care bout Falseflaggers and detecting it thru IP Addresses.
 

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