Unrecognized Terrorists States

[Solomon2]

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Counter-Terrorism: Unrecognized Terrorists States

November 10, 2015: The U.S. has long accused Iran, Sudan, and Syria as being “State Sponsors of Terrorism.” These are countries that have long promoted and supported the use of terrorism (usually Islamic terrorism). But there are some major players in this area who are not on this list, most notably Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Palestine. Each of these three is a special case and that is apparently enough to keep them off the list. Pakistan got into the Islamic terrorism business just before Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and was soon a major ally of the United States in an effort to support Afghans who were continuing to fight the Russian forces. After the Russians withdrew in 1989 Pakistan increased its support for Islamic terrorism, especially against India. During the Cold War leftist Indian governments was generally hostile to the United States and the West so America felt no pressing need to protect them from Pakistani sponsored Islamic terrorists. But at the same time Pakistan was not trying to inhibit the many Islamic terrorists who had flocked to Afghanistan after the Russians left. Many of these international Islamic terrorists were also able to move through and operate in Pakistan as long as they did not attack Pakistanis. This continued into the 1990s but right after September 11, 2001 the United States told Pakistan to join the fight against Islamic terrorism or be considered at war with America. Pakistan chose to join the War On Terror while continuing to support Islamic terrorists operating in Pakistan. The United States complained but generally did not press Pakistan on the issue. Thus Pakistan continues to be a base for many Islamic terrorists.

Saudi Arabia was a special case as well because the Saudis never officially supported Islamic terrorism but were, at the same time, very much responsible for the increase in Islamic terrorist activity since the 1970s. That’s because in Arabia (where Islam first appeared in the 7th century) the locals believe they are more Islamic than other Moslems. After all, the Koran was written in Arabic and all the founders of Islam were Arabs. Yet for over a thousand years there has been a tradition of different factions in Arabia trying outdo each other to prove who is “more Islamic” than the other. This led to constant fighting and suppression of new ideas. One of those fanatic factions is the Wahhabi form of SunniIslam in what is now Saudi Arabia. Wahhabis, who first appeared in the 18th century, are very conservative and very hostile to non-Moslems and Moslems who are not Sunni. This meant little to the non-Moslem world until lots of oil wealth appeared in Arabia after World War II. Suddenly it became possible for Saudis to show how pious they were by funding Wahhabi missionaries who went to other Moslem (and many non-Moslem) nations to preach, establish Wahhabi religious schools and mosques and create the current Islamic terrorism problem. Billions were (and still are) spent on this and the policy of getting the young boys into these free religious schools and turning many of them into hateful (towards anyone not like them) Islamic religious fanatics led to a major outbreak of Islamic terrorism in the late 20th century. Yet many Moslem nations resisted this. Saddam kept Wahhabis out of Iraq until 1991. Many secular rulers of Moslem countries (like Syria and Libya) also resisted the Wahhabi missionaries and money.

The Wahhabi problem is most obvious in Saudi Arabia, which practiced what it preached. Saudis comprise the largest faction of ISIL and al Qaeda recruits because so many Saudis have been educated in Wahhabi run schools. The Saudi rulers control the clergy, to a point, and do not allow public expressions of anti-Saudi Islamic radical ideas. But many Saudis back ISIL goals (which include replacing the Saudi monarchy), even is many of them do not wish to live under ISIL rule. This ideological mess is something Arab rulers, particularly in Saudi Arabia, have been dealing with since Saudi Arabia was formed in the 1920s. Change comes slowly in religious matters but meanwhile religious zealots that Arab oil wealth paid to create threaten us all. After September 11, 2001 the Saudis reluctantly began cracking down on the Islamic terrorist monster they had created. This was difficult to do but the Saudis were largely persuaded by the growing number of Islamic terrorist groups that wanted to kill the Saudi royals and run all of Arabia as a religious dictatorship. Messing with religion is one thing but if you really want to get someone’s attention threaten to take away their wealth and power.

Then there are the Palestinians. The persistent popularity for Islamic terrorism in many Arab countries is largely due to the growing use of anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda in the local media and the educational system. In the Palestinian territories both Hamas (hard liners running Gaza) and Fatah (the more corrupt "moderates" running the West Bank) have spent the last decade increasing their use of pretty blatant ant-Semitic and anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda and praise for Palestinian terrorists, even those whose only accomplishment was to kill civilians. While the strident anti-Israel rants of the Iranians gets a lot of media attention in the West, these pronouncements are not much different than those that appear daily in Arab and Pakistani media.

This sort of thing has been going on for decades and now there have been two or three generations raised on this hateful media. Some Moslems see through it all, eventually, but most do not and simply accept it as the way the world is. Some immigrate to the West for the obvious economic opportunities and spend a period of time trying to sort out the stark differences between the propaganda they grew up on and the very different reality they migrated to. Mentioning this dissonance to the folks back home will only get you, and them, in trouble, so the immigrants are forced to keep track of two very different world-views. In the meantime, the children who grew up in this storm of lies and hate are still being encouraged to become suicide bombers.

 

[Dubious]

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Counter-Terrorism: Unrecognized Terrorists States

November 10, 2015: The U.S. has long accused Iran, Sudan, and Syria as being “State Sponsors of Terrorism.” These are countries that have long promoted and supported the use of terrorism (usually Islamic terrorism). But there are some major players in this area who are not on this list, most notably Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Palestine. Each of these three is a special case and that is apparently enough to keep them off the list. Pakistan got into the Islamic terrorism business just before Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and was soon a major ally of the United States in an effort to support Afghans who were continuing to fight the Russian forces. After the Russians withdrew in 1989 Pakistan increased its support for Islamic terrorism, especially against India. During the Cold War leftist Indian governments was generally hostile to the United States and the West so America felt no pressing need to protect them from Pakistani sponsored Islamic terrorists. But at the same time Pakistan was not trying to inhibit the many Islamic terrorists who had flocked to Afghanistan after the Russians left. Many of these international Islamic terrorists were also able to move through and operate in Pakistan as long as they did not attack Pakistanis. This continued into the 1990s but right after September 11, 2001 the United States told Pakistan to join the fight against Islamic terrorism or be considered at war with America. Pakistan chose to join the War On Terror while continuing to support Islamic terrorists operating in Pakistan. The United States complained but generally did not press Pakistan on the issue. Thus Pakistan continues to be a base for many Islamic terrorists.

Saudi Arabia was a special case as well because the Saudis never officially supported Islamic terrorism but were, at the same time, very much responsible for the increase in Islamic terrorist activity since the 1970s. That’s because in Arabia (where Islam first appeared in the 7th century) the locals believe they are more Islamic than other Moslems. After all, the Koran was written in Arabic and all the founders of Islam were Arabs. Yet for over a thousand years there has been a tradition of different factions in Arabia trying outdo each other to prove who is “more Islamic” than the other. This led to constant fighting and suppression of new ideas. One of those fanatic factions is the Wahhabi form of SunniIslam in what is now Saudi Arabia. Wahhabis, who first appeared in the 18th century, are very conservative and very hostile to non-Moslems and Moslems who are not Sunni. This meant little to the non-Moslem world until lots of oil wealth appeared in Arabia after World War II. Suddenly it became possible for Saudis to show how pious they were by funding Wahhabi missionaries who went to other Moslem (and many non-Moslem) nations to preach, establish Wahhabi religious schools and mosques and create the current Islamic terrorism problem. Billions were (and still are) spent on this and the policy of getting the young boys into these free religious schools and turning many of them into hateful (towards anyone not like them) Islamic religious fanatics led to a major outbreak of Islamic terrorism in the late 20th century. Yet many Moslem nations resisted this. Saddam kept Wahhabis out of Iraq until 1991. Many secular rulers of Moslem countries (like Syria and Libya) also resisted the Wahhabi missionaries and money.

The Wahhabi problem is most obvious in Saudi Arabia, which practiced what it preached. Saudis comprise the largest faction of ISIL and al Qaeda recruits because so many Saudis have been educated in Wahhabi run schools. The Saudi rulers control the clergy, to a point, and do not allow public expressions of anti-Saudi Islamic radical ideas. But many Saudis back ISIL goals (which include replacing the Saudi monarchy), even is many of them do not wish to live under ISIL rule. This ideological mess is something Arab rulers, particularly in Saudi Arabia, have been dealing with since Saudi Arabia was formed in the 1920s. Change comes slowly in religious matters but meanwhile religious zealots that Arab oil wealth paid to create threaten us all. After September 11, 2001 the Saudis reluctantly began cracking down on the Islamic terrorist monster they had created. This was difficult to do but the Saudis were largely persuaded by the growing number of Islamic terrorist groups that wanted to kill the Saudi royals and run all of Arabia as a religious dictatorship. Messing with religion is one thing but if you really want to get someone’s attention threaten to take away their wealth and power.

Then there are the Palestinians. The persistent popularity for Islamic terrorism in many Arab countries is largely due to the growing use of anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda in the local media and the educational system. In the Palestinian territories both Hamas (hard liners running Gaza) and Fatah (the more corrupt "moderates" running the West Bank) have spent the last decade increasing their use of pretty blatant ant-Semitic and anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda and praise for Palestinian terrorists, even those whose only accomplishment was to kill civilians. While the strident anti-Israel rants of the Iranians gets a lot of media attention in the West, these pronouncements are not much different than those that appear daily in Arab and Pakistani media.

This sort of thing has been going on for decades and now there have been two or three generations raised on this hateful media. Some Moslems see through it all, eventually, but most do not and simply accept it as the way the world is. Some immigrate to the West for the obvious economic opportunities and spend a period of time trying to sort out the stark differences between the propaganda they grew up on and the very different reality they migrated to. Mentioning this dissonance to the folks back home will only get you, and them, in trouble, so the immigrants are forced to keep track of two very different world-views. In the meantime, the children who grew up in this storm of lies and hate are still being encouraged to become suicide bombers.

So is this way of you to show your concern regarding israel? Pretty much is on topic

 

[yasir18]

Just make a list of the countries that have killed innocent people of other countries and nations and you'll find the names of US, Russia and Israel at the top of that list. If these countries are not terrorists (state sponsored terrorism) then no one else is terrorist.

 

[Solomon2]

So is this way of you to show your concern regarding israel? Pretty much is on topic

What you're saying is, "I accuse Israel of crimes so I can get away with committing my own."

Just make a list of the countries that have killed innocent people -

"Killing innocent people" isn't the same thing as terrorism and baseless accusations against others doesn't get criminals off the hook.

If these countries are not terrorists (state sponsored terrorism) then no one else is terrorist.

Pretending your crimes are also committed by others is exactly what I expect criminals to say when caught red-handed.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

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Counter-Terrorism: Unrecognized Terrorists States

November 10, 2015: The U.S. has long accused Iran, Sudan, and Syria as being “State Sponsors of Terrorism.” These are countries that have long promoted and supported the use of terrorism (usually Islamic terrorism). But there are some major players in this area who are not on this list, most notably Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Palestine. Each of these three is a special case and that is apparently enough to keep them off the list. Pakistan got into the Islamic terrorism business just before Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and was soon a major ally of the United States in an effort to support Afghans who were continuing to fight the Russian forces. After the Russians withdrew in 1989 Pakistan increased its support for Islamic terrorism, especially against India. During the Cold War leftist Indian governments was generally hostile to the United States and the West so America felt no pressing need to protect them from Pakistani sponsored Islamic terrorists. But at the same time Pakistan was not trying to inhibit the many Islamic terrorists who had flocked to Afghanistan after the Russians left. Many of these international Islamic terrorists were also able to move through and operate in Pakistan as long as they did not attack Pakistanis. This continued into the 1990s but right after September 11, 2001 the United States told Pakistan to join the fight against Islamic terrorism or be considered at war with America. Pakistan chose to join the War On Terror while continuing to support Islamic terrorists operating in Pakistan. The United States complained but generally did not press Pakistan on the issue. Thus Pakistan continues to be a base for many Islamic terrorists.

Saudi Arabia was a special case as well because the Saudis never officially supported Islamic terrorism but were, at the same time, very much responsible for the increase in Islamic terrorist activity since the 1970s. That’s because in Arabia (where Islam first appeared in the 7th century) the locals believe they are more Islamic than other Moslems. After all, the Koran was written in Arabic and all the founders of Islam were Arabs. Yet for over a thousand years there has been a tradition of different factions in Arabia trying outdo each other to prove who is “more Islamic” than the other. This led to constant fighting and suppression of new ideas. One of those fanatic factions is the Wahhabi form of SunniIslam in what is now Saudi Arabia. Wahhabis, who first appeared in the 18th century, are very conservative and very hostile to non-Moslems and Moslems who are not Sunni. This meant little to the non-Moslem world until lots of oil wealth appeared in Arabia after World War II. Suddenly it became possible for Saudis to show how pious they were by funding Wahhabi missionaries who went to other Moslem (and many non-Moslem) nations to preach, establish Wahhabi religious schools and mosques and create the current Islamic terrorism problem. Billions were (and still are) spent on this and the policy of getting the young boys into these free religious schools and turning many of them into hateful (towards anyone not like them) Islamic religious fanatics led to a major outbreak of Islamic terrorism in the late 20th century. Yet many Moslem nations resisted this. Saddam kept Wahhabis out of Iraq until 1991. Many secular rulers of Moslem countries (like Syria and Libya) also resisted the Wahhabi missionaries and money.

The Wahhabi problem is most obvious in Saudi Arabia, which practiced what it preached. Saudis comprise the largest faction of ISIL and al Qaeda recruits because so many Saudis have been educated in Wahhabi run schools. The Saudi rulers control the clergy, to a point, and do not allow public expressions of anti-Saudi Islamic radical ideas. But many Saudis back ISIL goals (which include replacing the Saudi monarchy), even is many of them do not wish to live under ISIL rule. This ideological mess is something Arab rulers, particularly in Saudi Arabia, have been dealing with since Saudi Arabia was formed in the 1920s. Change comes slowly in religious matters but meanwhile religious zealots that Arab oil wealth paid to create threaten us all. After September 11, 2001 the Saudis reluctantly began cracking down on the Islamic terrorist monster they had created. This was difficult to do but the Saudis were largely persuaded by the growing number of Islamic terrorist groups that wanted to kill the Saudi royals and run all of Arabia as a religious dictatorship. Messing with religion is one thing but if you really want to get someone’s attention threaten to take away their wealth and power.

Then there are the Palestinians. The persistent popularity for Islamic terrorism in many Arab countries is largely due to the growing use of anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda in the local media and the educational system. In the Palestinian territories both Hamas (hard liners running Gaza) and Fatah (the more corrupt "moderates" running the West Bank) have spent the last decade increasing their use of pretty blatant ant-Semitic and anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda and praise for Palestinian terrorists, even those whose only accomplishment was to kill civilians. While the strident anti-Israel rants of the Iranians gets a lot of media attention in the West, these pronouncements are not much different than those that appear daily in Arab and Pakistani media.

This sort of thing has been going on for decades and now there have been two or three generations raised on this hateful media. Some Moslems see through it all, eventually, but most do not and simply accept it as the way the world is. Some immigrate to the West for the obvious economic opportunities and spend a period of time trying to sort out the stark differences between the propaganda they grew up on and the very different reality they migrated to. Mentioning this dissonance to the folks back home will only get you, and them, in trouble, so the immigrants are forced to keep track of two very different world-views. In the meantime, the children who grew up in this storm of lies and hate are still being encouraged to become suicide bombers.

What a joke *** article. Calling the Afghan Mujaheddin terrorists is like calling American and Turkish revolutionaries terrorists. The Quran is written in Arabic but none of its founders consider them selves as Arabs, rather Muslims or Sons of Adam (Humans) . The article fails to highlight Zionist terrorism which is supported by the state and her people and backed by the west. The US media highlights "Palestinian terrorists" throwing stones but fails to highlight stories like how
Baruch Goldstein slaughtered 29 Palestinian Worshipers and that now his grave has been turned into a Shrine and attracted 10,000 "Zionist pilgrims". They fail to highlight, how Israel is slowly devouring Palestine by taking hundreds of acres every year for "settlements". They fail to highlight how Israel killed 25,000 civilians since 1980's and how every year around 1000-2000 Palestinians are killed.

 

[Solomon2]

What a joke *** article. Calling the Afghan Mujaheddin terrorists is like calling American and Turkish revolutionaries terrorists.

The American revolutionaries fought on battlefields and woods in accordance with the laws of war at the time. (Don't know about the Turks.)

The article fails to highlight Zionist terrorism which is supported by the state and her people and backed by the west.

The article does not repeat lies, whereas in Pakistan anything that shows Israel to be decent is forbidden by the H.E.C. as "challenges to the ideology of Pakistan": link. So the information you've imbibed about Zionism is, by design, purposely inaccurate and distorted - no need to repeat it further, you're just highlighting the fact you're a subject and not a free person in this matter.

 

[Psychic]

The American revolutionaries fought on battlefields and woods in accordance with the laws of war at the time. (Don't know about the Turks.)

Bombing schools and hospitals in Ghaza from air is also in accordance with the laws of war at this time?

article does not repeat lies, whereas in Pakistan anything that shows Israel to be decent is forbidden by the H.E.C. as "challenges to the ideology of Pakistan": link. So the information you've imbibed about Zionism is, by design, purposely inaccurate and distorted - no need to repeat it further, you're just highlighting the fact you're a subject and not a free person in this matter.

Bull cr@p already debunked by me. Israel is shown neither in +ve nor -ve light in our text books.

Whereas in your internet connection, I think your firewall prevents display of webpages that show Pakistan in a positive light.

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

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Counter-Terrorism: Unrecognized Terrorists States

November 10, 2015: The U.S. has long accused Iran, Sudan, and Syria as being “State Sponsors of Terrorism.” These are countries that have long promoted and supported the use of terrorism (usually Islamic terrorism). But there are some major players in this area who are not on this list, most notably Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Palestine. Each of these three is a special case and that is apparently enough to keep them off the list. Pakistan got into the Islamic terrorism business just before Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and was soon a major ally of the United States in an effort to support Afghans who were continuing to fight the Russian forces. After the Russians withdrew in 1989 Pakistan increased its support for Islamic terrorism, especially against India. During the Cold War leftist Indian governments was generally hostile to the United States and the West so America felt no pressing need to protect them from Pakistani sponsored Islamic terrorists. But at the same time Pakistan was not trying to inhibit the many Islamic terrorists who had flocked to Afghanistan after the Russians left. Many of these international Islamic terrorists were also able to move through and operate in Pakistan as long as they did not attack Pakistanis. This continued into the 1990s but right after September 11, 2001 the United States told Pakistan to join the fight against Islamic terrorism or be considered at war with America. Pakistan chose to join the War On Terror while continuing to support Islamic terrorists operating in Pakistan. The United States complained but generally did not press Pakistan on the issue. Thus Pakistan continues to be a base for many Islamic terrorists.

Saudi Arabia was a special case as well because the Saudis never officially supported Islamic terrorism but were, at the same time, very much responsible for the increase in Islamic terrorist activity since the 1970s. That’s because in Arabia (where Islam first appeared in the 7th century) the locals believe they are more Islamic than other Moslems. After all, the Koran was written in Arabic and all the founders of Islam were Arabs. Yet for over a thousand years there has been a tradition of different factions in Arabia trying outdo each other to prove who is “more Islamic” than the other. This led to constant fighting and suppression of new ideas. One of those fanatic factions is the Wahhabi form of SunniIslam in what is now Saudi Arabia. Wahhabis, who first appeared in the 18th century, are very conservative and very hostile to non-Moslems and Moslems who are not Sunni. This meant little to the non-Moslem world until lots of oil wealth appeared in Arabia after World War II. Suddenly it became possible for Saudis to show how pious they were by funding Wahhabi missionaries who went to other Moslem (and many non-Moslem) nations to preach, establish Wahhabi religious schools and mosques and create the current Islamic terrorism problem. Billions were (and still are) spent on this and the policy of getting the young boys into these free religious schools and turning many of them into hateful (towards anyone not like them) Islamic religious fanatics led to a major outbreak of Islamic terrorism in the late 20th century. Yet many Moslem nations resisted this. Saddam kept Wahhabis out of Iraq until 1991. Many secular rulers of Moslem countries (like Syria and Libya) also resisted the Wahhabi missionaries and money.

The Wahhabi problem is most obvious in Saudi Arabia, which practiced what it preached. Saudis comprise the largest faction of ISIL and al Qaeda recruits because so many Saudis have been educated in Wahhabi run schools. The Saudi rulers control the clergy, to a point, and do not allow public expressions of anti-Saudi Islamic radical ideas. But many Saudis back ISIL goals (which include replacing the Saudi monarchy), even is many of them do not wish to live under ISIL rule. This ideological mess is something Arab rulers, particularly in Saudi Arabia, have been dealing with since Saudi Arabia was formed in the 1920s. Change comes slowly in religious matters but meanwhile religious zealots that Arab oil wealth paid to create threaten us all. After September 11, 2001 the Saudis reluctantly began cracking down on the Islamic terrorist monster they had created. This was difficult to do but the Saudis were largely persuaded by the growing number of Islamic terrorist groups that wanted to kill the Saudi royals and run all of Arabia as a religious dictatorship. Messing with religion is one thing but if you really want to get someone’s attention threaten to take away their wealth and power.

Then there are the Palestinians. The persistent popularity for Islamic terrorism in many Arab countries is largely due to the growing use of anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda in the local media and the educational system. In the Palestinian territories both Hamas (hard liners running Gaza) and Fatah (the more corrupt "moderates" running the West Bank) have spent the last decade increasing their use of pretty blatant ant-Semitic and anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda and praise for Palestinian terrorists, even those whose only accomplishment was to kill civilians. While the strident anti-Israel rants of the Iranians gets a lot of media attention in the West, these pronouncements are not much different than those that appear daily in Arab and Pakistani media.

This sort of thing has been going on for decades and now there have been two or three generations raised on this hateful media. Some Moslems see through it all, eventually, but most do not and simply accept it as the way the world is. Some immigrate to the West for the obvious economic opportunities and spend a period of time trying to sort out the stark differences between the propaganda they grew up on and the very different reality they migrated to. Mentioning this dissonance to the folks back home will only get you, and them, in trouble, so the immigrants are forced to keep track of two very different world-views. In the meantime, the children who grew up in this storm of lies and hate are still being encouraged to become suicide bombers.

not very well written and it doesn't say who wrote it either but pretty much nailed it, tell us something the whole world doesn't already know.

Saudi ideology is poison, I think Israel would be better off allying with the persians and helping the world get rid of the sallafist cancer.

 

[Solomon2]

Bombing schools and hospitals in Ghaza from air is also in accordance with the laws of war at this time?

When used as a base for military purposes - like launching rockets or command posts - such places lose their protected status under international law.

Bull cr@p already debunked by me. Israel is shown neither in +ve nor -ve light in our text books.

Then what excuse do you have for not countering anti-Israel lies?

 

[simple Brain]

Pakistan got into the Islamic terrorism business just before Russia invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and was soon a major ally of the United States in an effort to support Afghans who were continuing to fight the Russian forces. After the Russians withdrew in 1989 Pakistan increased its support for Islamic terrorism, especially against India.

So, here we are again, one more American lecturing us that how bad we are, and that world is missing Pakistan as a key player of a terrorism.
So, what are you explaining here is that, since Pakistan got into the Islamic terrorism business, US hence appreciated it and became a vital ally of Pakistan? Wow, do you guys literary hear yourself? Go on mate, look after your own Country, stop pretending that you guys literary give a dam about the world peace. The actual Problem with most of the Americans is that they rely too much on CNN and Fox News. Do you even know that how many times did US sabotage the world peace? You own Government is selling you out to the other states by bringing in the TPP. And even than the most of your nation is in a deep sleep, this explains a lot about you. Start reading and researching on US terrorism in the entire world since the 1900.

The Wahhabi problem is most obvious in Saudi Arabia, which practiced what it preached. Saudis comprise the largest faction of ISIL and al Qaeda recruits because so many Saudis have been educated in Wahhabi run schools.

What are you trying to explain about Wahhabis, do you know what it means? Do you know who wahabis are? I explain you something about Wahabis, for US Government whoever resist against its policies if they are Muslims it is obvious that they are called Wahabis. Even if they are shias, US will label them Wahabis. lol have some mercy on yourselves, their was a time when no one knew a dam about the US terrorism in this world, now everyone knows it, even your own People are standing against your own state.

In the Palestinian territories both Hamas (hard liners running Gaza) and Fatah (the more corrupt "moderates" running the West Bank) have spent the last decade increasing their use of pretty blatant ant-Semitic and anti-Infidel (non-Moslem) propaganda and praise for Palestinian terrorists, even those whose only accomplishment was to kill civilians.

You should literary stop talking about Palestine, Israel invaded Palestine, Palestine and the entire Israel occupied land belongs to Palestinians. If you call those who fight against the oppression a terrorist, than why don't you call the African American terrorist? They are also fighting against the brutality and oppression of your Police departments across the entire US.

In the meantime, the children who grew up in this storm of lies and hate are still being encouraged to become suicide bombers.

Oh, have you ever visited those areas where it is happening? Your Government bomb their houses via drones, most of them lost their loved ones and these drone attacks has brought nothing but a misery into the lives of the People that you call Terrorists. Living in a peaceful neighborhood of somewhere in Chicago doesn't qualify you as an expert on Islam and Terrorism. You should be ashamed of yourself, because what you have written here is nothing but a bunch of lies that we hear everyday on your state funded media.

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

Bombing schools and hospitals in Ghaza from air is also in accordance with the laws of war at this time?

bombing hospitals, schools and mosques is completely kosher if terrorists use these structures to hide their stockpiles of jihad rockets which they want to use specifically to kill civilians.

and it's not about doing what they can do given the limited resources and the imbalance in capabilities, I'm a 100% sure that if you give these animals the most advanced missiles, they'll use them on civilians, because that's the doctrine of jihad.

collateral damage and civvies dying is an unfortunate reality of any armed conflict, stop demonizing the IDF and SAA in their wars on terror.

 

[Solomon2]

So, here we are again, one more American lecturing us that how bad we are, and that world is missing Pakistan as a key player of a terrorism.
So, what are you explaining here is that, since Pakistan got into the Islamic terrorism business, US hence appreciated it and became a vital ally of Pakistan?

In the U.S. in the 1970s Pakistan had gained a reputation for fighting terrorism, not promoting it. Little did we know what Zia's Pakistan would do with the money given for the Afghan conflict...

....even your own People are standing against your own state.

Freedom of speech in a democracy, kid. You're supposed to be able to campaign against the state!

You should literary stop talking about Palestine, Israel invaded Palestine -

These narratives are getting more and more distant from reality, and sticking to such things distorts minds further, elevating pride and hate above truth and logic and love. It shows the necessity of teaching Israel history from a pro-Zionist viewpoint to Pakistanis.

 

[Psychic]

Then what excuse do you have for not countering anti-Israel lies?

There is an American blogger named Mark Glen who runs an anti-Israel and anti-Semite blog. He never had the honour of reading our text books. Text books are not the only thing which have the ability to build a perception.

Have you not observed many Pakistani pdf members who are often seen posting in favour of Israel? You will realize it only when you will stop thinking of Jews as victims.

When used as a base for military purposes - like launching rockets or command posts - such places lose their protected status under international law.

And I believe that..... How convienient of you to ignore that more than 70 pc of those killed were children. Now don't come up with that out dated human shield argument.

Going by your logic, Hamas's rocket attacks are also justified as every adult Israeli is/was a soldier and is able to fight at govt's call.

The term terrorist is a pretty loose term. At times, freedom fighters are declared terrorists. What happened when UK's paras killed 22 protesters in Derry before declaring them terrorists? States also commit henious crimes. We all know what Europeans and Americans did in WW2 and what was done all over the globe in the name of democracy, freedom or fight against communism. We all know what Irgun and Hagana were - terrorists-Yes terrorists who bombed King david hotel and killed 80 people apart from committing atrocities against Muslims but those terrorists are heroes of Israel aren't they? At least Pakistan wasn't founded by terrorists.

bombing hospitals, schools and mosques is completely kosher if terrorists use these structures to hide their stockpiles of jihad rockets which they want to use specifically to kill civilians.

and it's not about doing what they can do given the limited resources and the imbalance in capabilities, I'm a 100% sure that if you give these animals the most advanced missiles, they'll use them on civilians, because that's the doctrine of jihad.

collateral damage and civvies dying is an unfortunate reality of any armed conflict, stop demonizing the IDF and SAA in their wars on terror.

IDF and SAA are doing what you claim terrorists want to do. End of story.

P.S your IDF is against SAA and in favour of rebels and is even supporting them with airstrikes against SAA.

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

IDF and SAA are doing what you claim terrorists want to do. End of story.

no they're not, they're both fighting pure evil in their respective areas of operation against al quds and qaeda/fsis type animals.

if the TTP get their hands on some advanced gear you know exactly how and who they'll use it on too, stop it with the double standards, PA, SAA and IDF are all fighting regional flavors of essentially the same Saudi monster...

P.S your IDF is against SAA and in favour of rebels and is even supporting them with airstrikes against SAA.

I know, makes me sad to see that.

 

[Jaanbaz]

USA=World largest country held by a corrupt capitalist elite who terrorise the world. They also happen to belong to a certain small religion, thus they are naturally inclined to support a small and illegal country in Middle East.