Ukraine counter offensive have failed

[Ich]

No one wants to be trading with someone who threatens them. You are member of EU and NATO. there is nothing neutral about both of them.

No one wants NATO or EU or WHO or IMF or name it

 

[Han Patriot]

No one wants to be trading with someone who threatens them. You are member of EU and NATO. there is nothing neutral about both of them.

China, India and the whole world are still trading with Russia. Stop being a US stooge and stop expanding NATO and respect the redline.

So you do admit NATO is the US henchmen in EU. You guys should just give up your sovereignity and join US.

 

[nahtanbob]

No one wants NATO or EU or WHO or IMF or name it

hold a referendum in Germany and see where you go

 

[Ich]

hold a referendum in Germany and see where you go

Germans is not allowed to hold a referendum about such topics.

 

[OIO]

Only a sellout like you think in that way.

I want a neutral Germany, trading with everyone, fighting with no one.

Germany should withdraw from NATO, buy weapons from China, and remain neutral between NATO and Russia.

@Deino Can you give the German government a list of military purchases?

 

[Ich]

Germany should withdraw from NATO, buy weapons from China, and remain neutral between NATO and Russia.

Germany has to withdraw from any supranational thing and has to do bilateral agreements with every country.

 

[Deino]

Germany should withdraw from NATO, buy weapons from China, and remain neutral between NATO and Russia.

@Deino Can you give the German government a list of military purchases?

Honestly, regardless what our pro-Russian member claims most of the Germans are more than happy with a democratic system and enjoy such civil rights like free speech and expressing an own opinion. Surely this all has limits, but the freedom in Germany is anyway much bigger than in his beloved Russia.
Even more staying neutral is IMO not an option in the face of a state that ignores existing treaties, only acts according to the law of the strongest. As such, the Western system is surely far from perfect, but anyway way better than anything in Russia.

However a German LW J-10C or maybe J-35 would indeed be a feat.

 

[Ich]

Honestly, regardless what our pro-Russian member claims most of the Germans are more than happy with a democratic system and enjoy such civil rights like free speech and expressing an own opinion.

LOL here on PDF is more free speech than in german social media. Also EU did one on top with the new law. There is no free speech. "withheld in germany" slaps you in your face.

Also:

Can germans hold a binding referendum on country level for to leave the EU? The answer is no.

Can germans hold a binding referendum on country level for to leave the NATO? The answer is no.

Can germans hold a binding referendum on country level for to leave the Euro? The answer is no.

Can germans hold a binding referendum on country level for to leave the WHO? The answer is no.

Can germans hold a binding referendum on country level for to even change anything e.g. to vote the Bundespräsident directly (what e.g. Austrians can do) or even put up an own Bundespräsident candidate for election (what e.g. Austrians can do)? The answer is no.

And for all other question in such case: The answer is NO, it is not allowed to germans.

You are such a sellout.

 

[Ich]

Germans are more than happy with a democratic system

LOL you even wouldnt pass the german citizen test.


What is Democracy? In a Democracy citizens of a country elect their leaders.............................and that all. Nothing more. Thats Democracy.

Whereas in Germany the Germans are only allowed to elect members of a parliament. Nothing more. Only the members of a parliament.

And now here comes the trick:

In Germany members of a parliament are only bound to their own conscience. Not bound to the people or or bound to the country or bound to God or anything other - only bound to their own conscience.

So the vote of Germans, every 4 years, can change nothing cause the poeple the Germans vote for are not bound to their voters, dont need to take care what the voters want, are only bound to their own conscience. And so no one can hold them liable.

You know nothing about Germany.

 

[Iñigo]

"Ich"

You are talking to a completely amoral guy who does not know right from wrong because he thinks by projecting ideological categories.

 

[Ich]

"Ich"

You are talking to a completely amoral guy who does not know right from wrong because he thinks by projecting ideological categories.

I know. It is also for all Germans reading here. Little tasty freedom pills. And for the Ukrainians what reading here. To let them imagine what awaiting them if they give up their human rights in exchange of an EU or NATO Membership.

@Deino

Der dürfte dir auch gefallen: Alle Amtseide sind nicht strafbewehrt, können ohne Strafe gebrochen werden.

„Wie sämtliche Amtseide, die im deutschen öffentlichen Recht vorgesehen sind, ist
auch der Amtseid des Bundespräsidenten nicht strafbewehrt, etwa in dem Sinne, dass
eine flagrante Verletzung der im Eid übernommenen Verpflichtungen strafrechtlich als
Meineid o. ä. gewertet würde. Abgesehen davon, dass sich aus dem Text des Eides
schwerlich konkrete Handlungsanweisungen oder Handlungspflichten ableiten lassen,
entspricht eine solche Verknüpfung von Verfassungs- und Strafrecht auch nicht der
deutschen Rechtstradition“ (Herzog, in: Maunz/Dürig (Begr.), Grundgesetz-Kommentar,
Art. 56 Rn. 4, Hervorhebungen hinzugefügt)

https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/585474/a98216050ea29dcda726f464caa1f236/WD-3-368-18-pdf-data.pdf

 

[Deino]

I know. It is also for all Germans reading here. Little tasty freedom pills. And for the Ukrainians what reading here. To let them imagine what awaiting them if they give up their human rights in exchange of an EU or NATO Membership.

@Deino

Der dürfte dir auch gefallen: Alle Amtseide sind nicht strafbewehrt, können ohne Strafe gebrochen werden.

„Wie sämtliche Amtseide, die im deutschen öffentlichen Recht vorgesehen sind, ist
auch der Amtseid des Bundespräsidenten nicht strafbewehrt, etwa in dem Sinne, dass
eine flagrante Verletzung der im Eid übernommenen Verpflichtungen strafrechtlich als
Meineid o. ä. gewertet würde. Abgesehen davon, dass sich aus dem Text des Eides
schwerlich konkrete Handlungsanweisungen oder Handlungspflichten ableiten lassen,
entspricht eine solche Verknüpfung von Verfassungs- und Strafrecht auch nicht der
deutschen Rechtstradition“ (Herzog, in: Maunz/Dürig (Begr.), Grundgesetz-Kommentar,
Art. 56 Rn. 4, Hervorhebungen hinzugefügt)

https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/585474/a98216050ea29dcda726f464caa1f236/WD-3-368-18-pdf-data.pdf

Indeed, but in Russia breach of oath or breach of allegiance is directly punished with gulag, shooting, accidental falling out of the window from of a very tall building, or specially spiced tea. As I said before, our democratic system has flaws and weaknesses - although IMO it is also good that there is no direct democracy in which imbeciles just say goodbye to this and that or change their mind at random ... but let's do this better - because no matter how, in comparison to your beloved Russia there is at least a right.

 

[Ich]

Indeed, but in Russia breach of oath or breach of allegiance is directly punished with gulag, shooting

I like that. If one is not ok with an oath, have problems with it, he can first talk about, maybe talk can change oat formula. Or leave the position what is bind to the oath.

although IMO it is also good that there is no direct democracy in which imbeciles just say goodbye to this and that or change their mind at random ... but let's do this better - because no matter how, in comparison to your beloved Russia there is at least a right.

First, the "imbiceles" have human rights. Why do you want the human rights take away from them?

Second, for example, do you know Annalena Bearbock? The foreign Minister of Germany? Do you really think that she is a Person what can decide obout the fate of million of people? Or do you also recommend to Putin to turn 360 degrees in his doing? Or the proven lier Olaf Scholz? Do you really think such persons can do it better than any normal citizen?

 

[Iñigo]

The argument they bring us time and again is always the same, a variant of the colonial and racist mentality of the 19th century that Josep Borrell expressed so well: garden and jungle.

Again and again we are told:

Our cynical Bosses are justified in creating dreadful tragedies beyond the borders of our "garden" because we are the garden.

This cruel narcissism is doubly funny.

 

[Iñigo]

...

We have a high gross domestic product per capita and we also have a very good political-media entertainment industry and, therefore, our cynical Bosses are perfectly within their rights when it comes to spilling blood in Afghanistan for twenty years, bombing Libya, economically destroying Lebanon, unleashing Chaos and Terror in Iraq, subcontracting the destruction of Syria and sacrificing half a million Ukrainian pawns for the sum and explosive cocktail of an old hatred of Russia and a modern liberal pride that barely manages to hide an old racism.