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@waz I have been to Giftos in London. The restaurent is not branded as 'Pakistani'. I know it has 'Lahore' in it's name but Gifto's is rather ambigous about there branding which is often the trend with Pakistani owned establishments. I notice on TripAdvisor this [note most 'foreigners' will rely on such to note the heritage of the food. Notice 'Indian'. A indian would pull his two testicles out before he opens a restaurent in London with the name 'kolkata' and suffix iot with 'Pakistan'.

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Bro sorry it doesn’t get any authentic than calling it Lahore. Everyone in the four directions of the compass knows it’s Pakistani.
I seriously haven’t come across this trend. It’s rare.


Fair enough, what of the rest? There’s so many more.
 
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Just before last Christmas the staff at my gym went to works celebration at a 'Indian' restaurent. Later talking to one of the Polish trainer, she said to me "we went to Indian restaurent and had lovely meal". I know that particular chain belongs to a Pakistani. I find myself at length having to corrrect and explain to her. To which she retorted, slightly confused "why don't they call it Pakistani"? After all crappy Polish cuisine is always logged as 'Polish, not as Slovakian, Russian or Czech when there is precious little differance. Hell, I even notice 'Kurdistan restaurents' when no such country as that even exists right now.

Thanks. Case closed. And I don't need to look at their websites. I used to travel widely across UK. Everywhere I saw "Indian, Indian, Indian, Halal, Asian, Desi" restaurents. Maybe in month of months I might come across a Indian dash Pakistani restaurent.
Well tell her it is easier to market....You need to explain to them in the language they understand which is food...

How I trained goray from Europe even from Eastern Europe and Americans was by inviting them to a home cooked meal..and told them this is Pakistani food...and when they say they ate at indian restaurant...I would be like you ate Pakistani food at an indian restaurant and I explain the Mughal cuisine part that Mughal were in india and North Indian restaurants USUALLY serve our food...While South indian are more of the indigenous Indian...And yes they can tell now and whenever they do go out they know the difference....

You just need to put it in words they can eat :D

Anyway I’m not eating there after that.
customer lost successful :angel:

I think they just lost a customer
@waz :azn:
 
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I can easily judge a resturant whether its Pakistani or Indian by its name, menu and Halal label. Punjabi foods should be labelled as India or Pakistani? Pashtun food should be labelled as Afghan or Pakistani food? Bengali food should be labelled as Bangldeshi or indian food?

Many Pakistani Pashtun also advertise their restaurants as Kabul afghan cuisine I guess @Indus Pakistan would mind this as well
 
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Gentrification Pakistani style!

http://www.originallahore.com/

Chic, central location and Pakistani.
 
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I think its mainly because Desi food, that includes Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Nepalese, are all flagged as Indian in the minds of people.
 
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I think its mainly because Desi food, that includes Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Nepalese, are all flagged as Indian in the minds of people.
Native British don't know any better, we are the same to them.
 
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I think its mainly because Desi food, that includes Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Nepalese, are all flagged as Indian in the minds of people.
Different ethnic groups have been divided between India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan etc Being son of army personnel I had opportunity to live in four provinces of Pakistan and they all had different foods and different taste . Same is true about India i.e north and south Indian food is totally different ..Pashtun and dari food in Afghanistan is not same so labelling one nationality to food is quiet silly when you have ethnic groups spreading in so many countries .

Many Indian Punjabi in UK go to Pakistani restaurant to eat chiken curry, daal sabzi, eating sweets samosa jalebi ..many Pashtun go in Persian and afghani restaurant etc to eat kebabs so fighting over food, dress and languages is just stupid though i agree restaurant should have been labelled as Pakistani if owner is Pakistan even if they share similarities with Indian and Afghanistan, Persian foods... Some of these restaurants have partners from different countries i.e I personally know a Bengali who is partner with Pakistani and running few restaurants in cities .Now should they fight over names and nationality of food

Native British don't know any better, we are the same to them.
native British still living in era of pre partition so we should remind them its 21 century
 
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Different ethnic groups have been divided between India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan etc Being son of army personnel I had opportunity to live in four provinces of pakistan and they all had different foods and different taste . Same is true about India i.e north and south Indian food is totally different ..Pashtun and dari food in Afghanistan is not same so labelling one nationality to food is quiet silly when you have ethnic groups spreading in so many countries .

Many Indian Punjabi in UK go to Pakistani restaurant to eat chiken curry, daal sabzi, eating sweets samosa jalebi ..many Pashtun go in Persian and afghani restaurant etc to eat kebabs so fighting over food, dress and languages is just stupid though i agree restaurant should have been labelled as Pakistani if owner is Pakistan even if they share similarities with Indian and Afghanistan, Persian foods... Some of these restaurants have partners from different countries i.e I personally know a Bengali who is partner with Pakistani and running few restaurants in cities .Now should they fight over names and nationality of food


native British still living in era of pre partition so we should remind them its 21 century
Exactly, most of them don't even know that India didn't exist until after 1947.
 
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Exactly, most of them don't even know that India didn't exist until after 1947.
Its more about money than jingoism. Giving Indian name to food is marketing tactics to attract more customers i.e locals white as well as immigrant from all sub continent. "Indian cuisine" is well established cuisine in the west even before Pakistan was created. The food generally identified as "Indian" in the west is usually stuff like Korma, biryani, chicken tikka Masala, tandori etc etc which has a huge overlap with Pakistani cuisine. Similarly our army before partition was labelled as Indian army when it had officers from boht region of current Pakistan and India. Urdu was also developed way before Pakistan was created so again they also advertise it as Indian languages even though its national language of Pakistan..
 
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No it was not. And why are you so much bent on building up India. Are of Indian origin??
It is unless you assume there was no food before 1947

I am just telling truth which probably hurt my friend with Afghani origin thats why he is calling me of Indian origin :D
 
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Prior to 1947 there was a tiny, tiny population of South Asians and restaurents serving 'Asian' foof were almost unkown. Only after 1950s with mass migration, mostly males was a demand created for 'Asian' food. By 1960s every neighourhood in UK with large migrant population had cafes that serviced the migrant workers. By early 1970s some of the British began to eat 'Indian' and by early 1980s having a 'Indian' had become established.

So the building up of this began way after partition.
 
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Prior to 1947 there was a tiny, tiny population of South Asians and restaurents serving 'Asian' foof were almost unkown. Only after 1950s with mass migration, mostly males was a demand created for 'Asian' food. By 1960s every neighourhood in UK with large migrant population had cafes that serviced the migrant workers. By early 1970s some of the British began to eat 'Indian' and by early 1980s having a 'Indian' had become established.

So the building up of this began way after partition.
No my question was simple that what was the name of the "food" which we now identified as Pakistani ..obviously food existed prior to partition of subcontinent and were even known outside India ..I mean most of these cousine was brought by Muslims rulers and delhi was their capital back then..simility Pashtun cousine has long history and was labelled as afghan food
 
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