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The prime minister this morning chaired a meeting of senior officials to discuss the impact on the UK of possible Greek exit from the eurozone - and to take steps to ensure British banks and companies would not be excessively damaged.

Attended by the head of the Treasury, Nick Macpherson, the Treasury's director of financial stability, Lowrie Kahn, and the Bank of England's international director Phil Evans, David Cameron asked for information on the impact on Greece and the rest of the eurozone of Greece leaving the eurozone.

The chancellor did not attend, because he is on his way to the G20 meeting in Istanbul - though he has been kept in the loop on discussions.

There was agreement that the probability of Greece adopting a new currency had increased, as per my column of this morning. However those attending still believe that some kind of compromise between Athens and other eurozone governments can be reached to keep Greece in the euro.

David Cameron heard that Greek people would see their savings wiped out, inflation would take off, and there would be a massive devaluation,

He was also told that Greek companies and banks would face acute financial difficulties because of the mismatch between the "hard" euros they would owe to those outside Greece which would have to be serviced out of "soft" or "devaluing" new drachmas.

So any British businesses and banks owed money by Greek businesses or individuals would struggle to get their money back. However the direct exposure of British banks to Greece is relatively small.

Perhaps the bigger issue for the UK would be contagion from a Greek exit to other weaker eurozone economies - and the risk that they would suffer acute outflows of capital, which would further undermine their financial and economic stability.

A government source said that the eurozone remained hugely important to the UK as its most important trading partner, and so it is sensible for the prime minister to plan in case the Greek crisis were to worsen and exit could not be avoided.

Source: BBC News - UK planning for possible Greece exit from the eurozone
 
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Put Greece on ebay. Payment via Paypal and shipment via US Postal Service.
 
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Pakistan is too distant from Greece to feel the effects of this financial earthquake if it ever happens.
 
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I have a quick question regarding this, whenever I hear about Greece they talk about the over and careless spending they had done for the Olympic games, and the high amount financial assistance, and that they borrowed too much money and are now refusing to pay it back. Is this true or is there other side to the story?
 
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^^ It is decades worth of negligence. The Olympics is just the tip of the iceberg. Unlike in Pakistan the Greek people are very demanding. They do not tolerate austerity measures and are hardcore nationalists. Unlike Pakistani leaders who burden their poor, the Greeks are not in the mood to do the same. The truth is that they have been living beyond their means for very long. The European taxpayer has been bearing the brunt, but patience has run out. The European lenders are asking their money back. Greece is feeling the heat and cannot pay any of it back. Greece feels humiliated and the people have even elected a new leader who promises renegotiation of loans etc. It is a deadlock between Greece and its lenders. It is either exit for Greece from EU or they will have to pay and abide by the rules set by its lenders.

People in Pakistan who propose that loans aren't a bad thing need to open their eyes. Greece is a living example.
 
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Pakistan is too distant from Greece to feel the effects of this financial earthquake if it ever happens.

That is true, but this crisis is very relevant for Pakistan. Pakistani economy too is very reliant on loans. The moral of the Greek crisis is that there is always a point of no return. Pakistan needs to take some reality lessons of this crisis. Loans, corruption and living beyond your means will get you into trouble.
 
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That is true, but this crisis is very relevant for Pakistan. Pakistani economy too is very reliant on loans. The moral of the Greek crisis is that there is always a point of no return. Pakistan needs to take some reality lessons of this crisis. Loans, corruption and living beyond your means will get you into trouble.
The moral of this is 90% of countries do the same and unless well managed will be equally fucked.
 
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That is true, but this crisis is very relevant for Pakistan. Pakistani economy too is very reliant on loans. The moral of the Greek crisis is that there is always a point of no return. Pakistan needs to take some reality lessons of this crisis. Loans, corruption and living beyond your means will get you into trouble.
I wish the day will come when Pakistan will pay back all it's loans and stand on it's proud two feet. We need a visionary leader who should be an economic genius, who can put our house in order and put the economy on solid grounds. At least we are surviving but not in a very healthy way. We may not do much trade with Greece but the case is relevant to us. We certainly need a reality lesson but who can give it to us ? Your guess is as good as mine.
 
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UK economy is not much better than Greece. UK just has a longer lasting Ponzi scheme going on.
 
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Greek finance minister enters euro zone lions' den| Reuters

(Reuters) - Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis began tense talks with euro zone finance ministers on Wednesday after his new leftist-led government won a parliamentary confidence vote for its refusal to extend an international bailout.

The former academic said before leaving Athens he was ready for a clash with euro zone paymaster Germany and its allies over Greece's decision to scrap austerity measures, end cooperation with the "troika" of EU/ECB/IMF officials overseeing its bailout program and demand a "haircut" reducing its debt burden.

"If a debt can no longer be paid off then that leads to a haircut," Varoufakis told German magazine Stern in an interview released on Wednesday. "What is critical is that Greece's debt cannot be paid off in the near future."

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble has said that if Greece is not willing to request an extension of its 240 billion euro bailout -- the biggest in financial history -- "then that's it", ruling out further assistance or debt forgiveness.

Euro zone ministers said they wanted to hear Greece's ideas at a meeting in Brussels, at which Varoufakis was accompanied by Deputy Prime Minister Yanis Dragasakis. Athens's partners warned that time was short since the bailout program expires at the end of this month with no solution in sight so far.

Spanish Finance Minister Luis de Guindos, whose country avoided a sovereign bailout but had to take EU aid to rescue its banks, spelt out the hard line. "Rules must be respected by all. They apply to all," he told reporters on arrival.

Varoufakis had a prior meeting with International Monetary Fund chief Christine Lagarde, which both said was constructive. Lagarde flew to Brussels to join the Euro Group meeting in a sign of the importance the IMF attaches to the Greek crisis.

"They are competent, intelligent, they've thought about their issues. We have to listen to them, we are starting to work together and it is a process that is starting and is going to last a certain time," she told reporters.

In Athens, a Greek official said Varoufakis had discussed with Lagarde and the Euro Group's Dutch head Jeroen Dijsselbloem some form of "bridge agreement" for funding the state once the current bailout deal expires at the end of the month.

Greek bond yields rose and shares fell before the meeting, with investors concerned that failure to reach a deal in the next couple of weeks could lead to a possible Greek default and exit from the euro currency.

Asked whether a so-called "Grexit" was on the cards, Varoufakis told reporters on arrival: "Absolutely not."

Meeting his counterparts collectively for the first time, he worked the room before talks started, shaking hands first with Schaeuble, then others. Varoufakis looking relaxed in a designer-label checked scarf and his trademark open-neck shirt.

EU sources said some ministers were surprised that the informal tone extended to him not offering a written document outlining proposals. Varoufakis simply made oral statements.

Economists polled by Reuters this week estimated a one in four chance of Greece leaving the 19-nation single currency area this year -- the highest reading since the start of the Greek debt crisis in late 2009.

Most analysts said the odds were on an agreement between Greece and the euro zone emerging later this month after lots of sound and fury.

"We think that the European community and Greek authorities will reach a compromise such that there will not be an exit of Greece from the euro zone," James McCormack, Global Head of Sovereign and Supranational Group at credit ratings agency Fitch Ratings, told Reuters.

European Union leaders will take up the issue at their first summit with Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras on Thursday. EU officials said they would be briefed on the talks but there would be no room for debt negotiation at a summit mostly devoted to the Ukraine-Russia conflict, fighting terrorism and longer-term reform of the euro zone's governance.

EU officials said a second Eurogroup meeting next Monday was likely to be the venue for the real negotiation.

DEFIANT TONE

Tsipras, 40, struck a defiant tone in parliament late on Tuesday, saying that "little Greece" was changing Europe by casting off austerity.

"We are not negotiating the bailout; it was canceled by its own failure," the leader of the hard left Syriza party declared before winning the confidence vote with the backing of 162 lawmakers in the 300-seat chamber.

At least 10,000 Greeks took to the streets of Athens and other cities on Wednesday to demonstrate support for his government in the Brussels negotiations. Smaller leftist satellite rallies were planned in Brussels, outside the European Central Bank in Frankfurt and in London.

Protesters outside parliament in central Athens unfurled banners proclaiming "Bankrupt but Free" and "Stop Austerity".

Tsipras tweeted a picture of the rally, with the message: "In the cities of Greece and Europe the people are fighting the negotiation battle. They are our strength."

Earlier, he agreed to work on reforms with the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, a Paris-based inter-governmental think-tank, but said they would not be imposed from outside.

OECD chief Angel Gurria appeared to endorse Tsipras's criticisms of the current bailout program after they met in Athens, saying it had produced low growth, high unemployment, rising inequality and a loss of trust.

DEBT SWAP?

Varoufakis has proposed a six-month transition in which Greece would be allowed to issue more short-term debt, receive the proceeds of ECB holdings of Greek bonds and tap unused bank rescue funds while renegotiating its debt. Athens would swap its euro zone loans for GDP-linked bonds and its ECB-held debt for interest-bearing perpetual bonds with no reimbursement date.

EU officials have said the most Greece can expect is a further extension of the repayment deadline for its euro zone loans, a lower interest rate and perhaps a prolonged moratorium on debt service payments, in return for continued reforms under some form of external supervision.

Austria's finance minister, Hans Joerg Schelling, said he thought a solution could be reached by the end of February if Greece wanted, otherwise things would enter a "critical phase" that could cause turmoil on financial markets.


Eurogroup President Jeroen Dijsselbloem (L) looks at Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis (C) and International Monetary Fund (IMF) Managing Director Christine Lagarde (R) during an extraordinary euro zone Finance Ministers meeting to discuss Athens' plans to reverse austerity measures agreed as part of its bailout, in Brussels February 11, 2015.
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LOL ^^ fuckfaces. greeks and brotons have a lot in common. both suck penis.

briton DOWN!!!!

 
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Greece agrees to talk to creditors in EU debt progress| Reuters
Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:28pm EST


Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel poses with his Greek counterpart Alexis Tsipras (L) ahead of a meeting in Brussels February 12, 2015.


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(Reuters) - Greece agreed on Thursday to talk to its creditors about the way out of its hated international bailout in a political climbdown that could prevent its new leftist-led government running out of money as early as next month.

Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, attending his first European Union summit, agreed with the chairman of euro zone finance ministers, Jeroen Dijsselbloem, that Greek officials would meet representatives of the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the IMF on Friday.

"(We) agreed today to ask the institutions to engage with the Greek authorities to start work on a technical assessment of the common ground between the current program and the Greek government's plans," Dijsselbloem tweeted. This, he said, would pave the way for crucial talks between euro zone finance ministers next Monday.

The shift by Tsipras marked a potential first step towards resolving a crisis that has raised the risk of Greece being forced to abandon the euro, which could spark wider financial turmoil. A Greek official in Athens said it was a positive move towards a new financial arrangement with creditors.
 
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US urges Greece debt negotiators to 'set aside rhetoric' — EU - European Union and Eurozone business news | EUbusiness.com

13 February 2015, 23:37 CET
— filed under: Greece, politics, economy, debt, IMF, US
(WASHINGTON) - US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew urged Friday all sides in Greece debt talks to focus on finding a solution to the crisis that risks pushing the eurozone country into default.

Lew spoke by phone Friday with Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras to discuss the latest developments, a day after Tsipras laid out his plans to European leaders in Brussels to overhaul the country's international bailout.

Lew "urged all parties to set aside rhetoric and focus on reaching a pragmatic path forward," the Treasury said in a statement.

The US Treasury chief told Tsipras that he looked forward to working with the new Greek government "as it proceeds to articulate a concrete and comprehensive reform agenda in partnership with Europe and international institutions."

He welcomed the fact that Greece and its partners were engaged in technical discussions, the department said.

Greece began tough negotiations with its creditors Friday as hopes rose that a make-or-break meeting with eurozone financial ministers Monday could reach a new debt deal.

The new anti-austerity Greek government is demanding a replacement agreement to its 240-billion-euro ($270-billion) bailout from the European Union, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

The bailout is due to expire at the end of February, and failure to reach a replacement agreement could trigger a Greek default and a chaotic exit from the euro.

In his phone call with Tsipras, the department said, Lew noted that Monday's Eurogroup meeting "marks a significant opportunity to achieve concrete progress."
 
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