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UFOs are not just a case of science fiction, say pilots
By David Usborne in New York
Published: 14 November 2007
An international panel of retired pilots and aviation officials has risked ridicule by sharing their personal stories of close encounters with unidentified flying objects, and urging the US government to reopen its investigation into extra-terrestrial spacecraft.

Among the UFO incidents discussed by the gathering in Washington DC this week was an alleged sighting of a triangular-shaped flying machine with unfamiliar markings near the former US air base at RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk in 1980.

"Nothing in my training prepared me for what we were witnessing," James Penniston, a retired US Air Force pilot, told the panel. He said the UFO, with "blue and yellow lights swirling around the exterior", was "warm to the touch and felt like metal". Finally, "it shot off at an unbelievable speed" in front of 80 witnesses. "In my log book, I wrote 'speed: impossible'," Mr Penniston added. At the time, the case was labelled the "English Roswell" – referring to the furore caused by the alleged discovery of UFO parts in New Mexico in 1948.

Jean-Claude Duboc, a former Air France pilot, recalled spotting "a huge flying disc" about 1,000ft (305m) across which left no image on his radar as he flew over Paris in broad daylight in January 1994. He said the object started to become transparent and, within 10 to 20 seconds, had vanished without a trace.

Believers in UFOs contend that the US and British governments have covered up evidence of alleged galactic incursions. Sceptics insist these "sightings" are caused by natural phenomena such as meteors. But that explanation is not good enough, according to Fife Symington, a former governor of Arizona who was also a panel member.

He said it was time for the Bush government to reopen Project Blue Book, the US Air Force inquiry into 12,500 UFO reports, which was abandoned as a "waste of time" in 1969. "Incidents like these are not going to go away," said Mr Symington. "We want the government to stop perpetuating the myth that all UFOs can be explained away in down-to-earth, conventional terms."

Talk of flying saucers resurfaced in the US media a few weeks ago when one of the Democratic presidential hopefuls, Dennis Kucinich, claimed during a televised debate that he had seen one. His comments may not have been total political suicide – two former US presidents, Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter, each spoke early in their careers of encounters with UFOs.

UFOs are not just a case of science fiction, say pilots - Independent Online Edition > Americas
 
I dunno if i can belive them or not. some people make up stories for attention. others mistake human aircraft for UFOs (The B-2, before being declassified, was mistaken for a UFO by many who saw it flying around at low altitude)

However, i do believ that life exists outside earth. The universe is simply too big not to have another planet that supports life. Whether aliens have visited earth before, i dunno. But the chance of life out there in the universe is so high, that it is not out of the question that it is possible for a super-intelligent species of extra-terrestrials to have paid us a visit.

If aliens have visited us before, the governments are doing a pretty good job covering it up.
 
The question is why would the government of the world would cover up such an issue?

There is a need of a scientific proof, however visual evidence is quite clear on many occassions.
 
all those UFOs in my belief were US experimental aircraft.stories such as these were spread around deliberately so that no one would really know what the Americans are really upto.
 
But webby why there are not a single evidence surfaced in our region? Or there are some and we dont know about them, means not surfaced, What will be the logical explaination on Islamic point of view? About the existance of Aliens away from our EARTH? can anyone shed light on it


Regards

Mansoor
 
But webby why there are not a single evidence surfaced in our region? Or there are some and we dont know about them, means not surfaced, What will be the logical explaination on Islamic point of view? About the existance of Aliens away from our EARTH? can anyone shed light on it


Regards

Mansoor

It is strange how UFOs only surface in countries with advanced aircraft technology, especially the USA. has anyone ever heard of a UFO over Africa? Probably not. This is more evidence that nations like USA are using UFO legends to hide their secret aircraft project.

There are rumours that USA has a hypersonic recon aircraft called the aurora. So if that thing is spotted, it can be mistaken for a UFO. It is supposed to be triangular. Maybe this ius the aircraft Penniston spotted.
 
I dunno if i can belive them or not. some people make up stories for attention. others mistake human aircraft for UFOs (The B-2, before being declassified, was mistaken for a UFO by many who saw it flying around at low altitude)

However, i do believ that life exists outside earth. The universe is simply too big not to have another planet that supports life. Whether aliens have visited earth before, i dunno. But the chance of life out there in the universe is so high, that it is not out of the question that it is possible for a super-intelligent species of extra-terrestrials to have paid us a visit.

If aliens have visited us before, the governments are doing a pretty good job covering it up.
I have seen UFO footage in space!

Aircrafts zooming out of the Earth's surface into space, and speeding back in.

I am definitely a believer.

UFOs have been seen all over the planet. One of the most famous UFO formations (A circle) was made over Africa and it was captured by a Satellite.

UFOs IMO are about to come out of the closet. They are now posing in front of us.
 
The famous phoenix lights incident is a clear indication of a large triangular aircraft.
 
I have seen UFO footage in space!

Aircrafts zooming out of the Earth's surface into space, and speeding back in.

I am definitely a believer.

UFOs have been seen all over the planet. One of the most famous UFO formations (A circle) was made over Africa and it was captured by a Satellite.

UFOs IMO are about to come out of the closet. They are now posing in front of us.

could have been an experimental aircraft. remember, what we now believe to be beyond human technology is not necessarily behind human technology, coz we often tend to underestimate human technology.

In the 60s, when the blakbird was commissioned, it was beyond what most humans thought was the grasp of human technology at the time. It was a stealthy mach 3 aircraft that looked like it just came in from space. It flew extremely at high altitude, and as it went mach 3, the nose and the wings would heat up, making it look like some extraterrestrial bird.

Its hard to believ that such a technological wonder as the blackbird was designed in the late 50s and commissioned in the 60s. It looks so high-tech, even by todays standards. and it was only declassified decades after its commissioning.

so for all we know, these UFOs could be advanced experimental aircraft that we think is currently beyond human technology, but were actually commissioned decades ago.
 
Dont get stuck up in the theory that every UFO will be part of the prototypes tested for the USAF. There are many incidents all over the world. There is just no scientific evidence, but does everything has to be scientificially proven in order to be true. Hmm!
 
could have been an experimental aircraft. remember, what we now believe to be beyond human technology is not necessarily behind human technology, coz we often tend to underestimate human technology.

In the 60s, when the blakbird was commissioned, it was beyond what most humans thought was the grasp of human technology at the time. It was a stealthy mach 3 aircraft that looked like it just came in from space. It flew extremely at high altitude, and as it went mach 3, the nose and the wings would heat up, making it look like some extraterrestrial bird.

Its hard to believ that such a technological wonder as the blackbird was designed in the late 50s and commissioned in the 60s. It looks so high-tech, even by todays standards. and it was only declassified decades after its commissioning.

so for all we know, these UFOs could be advanced experimental aircraft that we think is currently beyond human technology, but were actually commissioned decades ago.
I'm pretty sure aircrafts of today cannot make 90 degree turns while traveling 10x the speed of sound.

I'm pretty sure we do not have 2 km wide in diameter cylindrical discs flying in mid space as experimental aircraft. Significant videographical evidence is just a youtube away!
 
Dont get stuck up in the theory that every UFO will be part of the prototypes tested for the USAF. There are many incidents all over the world. There is just no scientific evidence, but does everything has to be scientificially proven in order to be true. Hmm!

i'm not denouncing UFO theory. I'm just saying that the US experimental aircraft theory is more substantial.
 
true true.I concur fully with SU-47.
haven't you heard of the UFO sighting incident over Iran?well Iranian air force commanders confirmed some days later that it was nothing but an US UAV flying over Iran dropping some red flares!
 
i'm not denouncing UFO theory. I'm just saying that the US experimental aircraft theory is more substantial.
It isn't! Only for a few **** cases where there are no videos. But you just cannot do those kind of turns. You'd be squashed in the aircraft if you did those turns. Heck the aircraft would explode!

There is a lot of science that does explain that hundreds of the UFO sightings are in fact Unidentifiable by any means!

Einstein explained in his theory of relativity that you just cannot approach the speed of light. E=MC2.

C2 is constant. To increase E you got to increase M. By the time you have enough M to equal enough energy, you are effectively talking about a huge infinite amount of mass that would again squash you.

What those UFOs are doing is travelling at near Zero Mass. So the E required is effectively negligible. The UFO's are scientifically speaking in a state of non-matter. Most UFOs are undetectable in the normal spectrum of light and only become visible in Infrared.
 

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