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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration is considering changing U.S. regulations to allow it to block shipments of chips to Huawei Technologies [HWT.UL] from companies such as Taiwan’s TSMC (2330.TW), the world’s largest contract chipmaker, two sources familiar with the matter said.

New restrictions on commerce with China’s Huawei are among several options to be considered at high-level U.S. meetings this week and next. The chip proposal has been drafted but its approval is far from certain, one of the sources said.

The measure would be a blow to the world’s no. 2 smartphone maker as well as to TSMC, a major producer of chips for Huawei’s HiSilicon unit and mobile phone rivals Apple Inc (AAPL.O) and Qualcomm Inc (QCOM.O).

“What they’re trying to do is make sure that no chips go to Huawei that they can possibly control,” the second source said.

Huawei is at the heart of a battle for global technological dominance between the United States and China. The United States is trying to convince allies to exclude its gear from next generation 5G networks on grounds its equipment could be used by China for spying. Huawei has repeatedly denied the claim.

To target global chip sales to Huawei, U.S. authorities would alter the Foreign Direct Product Rule, which subjects some foreign-made goods based on U.S. technology or software to U.S. regulations.

Under the draft proposal, the U.S. government would force foreign companies that use U.S. chipmaking equipment to seek a U.S. license before supplying Huawei - a major expansion of export control authority that could anger U.S. allies worldwide.

The U.S. Commerce Department declined to comment on the proposal.

But a Commerce spokesman said recent U.S. charges against Huawei, including conspiring to steal trade secrets, “reaffirm the need for caution in considering license applications. The U.S. continues to have major concerns about Huawei.”

Huawei did not respond to requests for comment.

A spokeswoman for TSMC said the company does not answer “hypothetical” questions and does not comment on individual customers.

The United States placed Huawei on a blacklist in May last year, citing national security concerns. That forced some U.S. and foreign companies to seek special licenses from the Commerce Department to sell to it, but China hawks in the U.S. government have been frustrated by the vast number of supply chains beyond their reach.

Others in the Trump administration fear antagonizing Beijing, which just signed a trade deal with Washington. They also worry the restrictions will drive innovation offshore and benefit foreign rivals.

Most chip manufacturers rely on equipment produced by U.S. companies like KLA (KLAC.O), Lam Research (LRCX.O) and Applied Materials (AMAT.O), according to a report last year from China’s Everbright Securities.

“There is no production line in China that uses only equipment made in China, so it is very difficult to make any chipsets without U.S. equipment,” Everbright wrote.

Shares of KLA and Lam fell around 4 percent in U.S. trading on Tuesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-huawei-tech-tsmc-idUSKBN20B1YO?taid=5e4b83616e49630001bab2b0

US cannot compete fairly so will use other means to do it.
 
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US cannot compete fairly so will use other means to do it.

China has been developing their industries by stealing American technology and you accuse the US of competing unfairly :lol:

China was a dirt poor country before the Americans opened up to China in 1978 by moving American factories to China, allowing the products made by those factories easy access to the US market, US companies transferring technologies, teaching Chinese people about management. America made modern day China. Without America, China would still be dirt poor.

China is good at stealing other people’s hard work and copying them. They have no morals, no ethics, no shame.
 
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China has been developing their industries by stealing American technology and you accuse the US of competing unfairly :lol:

China was a dirt poor country before the Americans opened up to China in 1978 by moving American factories to China, allowing the products made by those factories easy access to the US market, US companies transferring technologies, teaching Chinese people about management. America made modern day China. Without America, China would still be dirt poor.

China is good at stealing other people’s hard work and copying them. They have no morals, no ethics, no shame.
You should read Clinton justification for China to join WTO.
 
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China has been developing their industries by stealing American technology and you accuse the US of competing unfairly :lol:

China was a dirt poor country before the Americans opened up to China in 1978 by moving American factories to China, allowing the products made by those factories easy access to the US market, US companies transferring technologies, teaching Chinese people about management. America made modern day China. Without America, China would still be dirt poor.

China is good at stealing other people’s hard work and copying them. They have no morals, no ethics, no shame.
Lol... Another loser comment. US never made 5G and Chinese is inventor of 5G , same as quantum communication which American never possess.. US lose to China in innovation and your lousy corporate always charge high price for any new innovation. American can only accuse China to try stop out true innovation. The real despicable human being is American. Just like a sport sprint. Can t beat China and decide to spike Chinese sprinter drink and then accuse Chinese of taking steroid to disqualify. That is how low US has reached.
 
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Lol... Another loser comment. US never made 5G and Chinese is inventor of 5G , same as quantum communication which American never possess.. US lose to China in innovation and your lousy corporate always charge high price for any new innovation. American can only accuse China to try stop out true innovation. The real despicable human being is American. Just like a sport sprint. Can t beat China and decide to spike Chinese sprinter drink and then accuse Chinese of taking steroid to disqualify. That is how low US has reached.
You invented 5g? Also quantum communication?

If I recall one of the few things you invented was chopsticks.

Not a bad thing

we Viet people are still thankful for the invention.
 
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You invented 5g? Also quantum communication?

If I recall one of the few things you invented was chopsticks.

Not a bad thing

we Viet people are still thankful for the invention.

5G and Quantum communication were researched in Western universities. China just stole their hard work and claimed it as their own. China didn’t invent the concept of 5G and Quantum.

Look at China’s high speed rail system. Complete theft of German, French and Japanese high speed rail technology.

Read this to see how China steals technology:
https://www.bbc.com/news/12382747
 
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5G and Quantum communication were researched in Western universities. China just stole their hard work and claimed it as their own. China didn’t invent the concept of 5G and Quantum.

Look at China’s high speed rail system. Complete theft of German, French and Japanese high speed rail technology.

Read this to see how China steals technology:
https://www.bbc.com/news/12382747
Yes typical chinese bragging
Without forced technology transfer, theft, copying they can nothing.
That lies in chinese education system which emphasizes on memorizing.

Independent thinking, exchange of opinions, stepping out of common ways is not their way of life. They will attack if you have different voices.

A total technology embargo is the right answer.
 
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You invented 5g? Also quantum communication?

Yes :enjoy:

5G and Quantum communication were researched in Western universities. China just stole their hard work and claimed it as their own. China didn’t invent the concept of 5G and Quantum.

Look at China’s high speed rail system. Complete theft of German, French and Japanese high speed rail technology.

Read this to see how China steals technology:
https://www.bbc.com/news/12382747
Fancy, you quote BBC link. When did they ever say an objective thing about China?

China steal Japan, Germany and France HSR? Then may I know why China high speed rail can cruise faster and more stable than the other 3 countries? Not to mention , Chinese HSR is cheaper to produce despite being superior than the other 3.Are u slapping your own face when u crap those BS?


Mind you, these Chinese train are going at 350km/h.. the highest cruising speed for any HSR in service.
 
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Chinese products from civilian to military are all copycats.

Their Z-20 helicopter is a cheap knockoff of the Blackhawk helicopter. The J-31 is a cheap knockoff of the F-35. The J-20 is a cheap knockoff of the Mig 1.44. The J-10 is a cheap knockoff of the Lavi. The J-11, J-15, J-16 are all cheap knockoffs of the Sukhoi fighters. Their drones are cheap knockoffs too.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922/china-copycat-air-force/

That’s just what their cheap knockoff Air Force has. Their Army, Navy, Space forces are all based on cheap knockoffs of Western and Russian technology.

That’s just the military. The civilian sector copying is off the scale.

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And you thought they only copy civilian and military products? Ha!
The copy kingdom can do one better folks. They are doing cheap knockoffs of entire cities.

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These guys don’t have an original thought or an idea in them to save their lives.
 
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Z-20 is better in everything comparing to blackhawk now.
 
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Chinese products from civilian to military are all copycats.

Their Z-20 helicopter is a cheap knockoff of the Blackhawk helicopter. The J-31 is a cheap knockoff of the F-35. The J-20 is a cheap knockoff of the Mig 1.44. The J-10 is a cheap knockoff of the Lavi. The J-11, J-15, J-16 are all cheap knockoffs of the Sukhoi fighters. Their drones are cheap knockoffs too.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/g23303922/china-copycat-air-force/

That’s just what their cheap knockoff Air Force has. Their Army, Navy, Space forces are all based on cheap knockoffs of Western and Russian technology.

That’s just the military. The civilian sector copying is off the scale.

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And you thought they only copy civilian and military products? Ha!
The copy kingdom can do one better folks. They are doing cheap knockoffs of entire cities.

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These guys don’t have an original thought or an idea in them to save their lives.

LOL.. Try change topic? You are the one raise up about HSR of China and you yet to answer why China HSR is more superior in terms of speed and comfort in stability despite your call of we copying others? Now you desperate to avoid continue talking it? Never mind, you want to talk about copy? Sure...

China will flood the market with more copy and we make sure, we let the world know how the west overcharged buyers for so many decade that we can make a Luxurious goods as good as real at cost of 1/100. The rest of the world already thank China for making luxurious affordable for mass. :lol:
 
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I’ve had friends that have gone on Japanese and Chinese high speed trains and they prefer Japanese trains for its superior comfort. Original is always better than cheap knockoffs.
 
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I’ve had friends that have gone on Japanese and Chinese high speed trains and they prefer Japanese trains for its superior comfort. Original is always better than cheap knockoffs.

Talk is cheap, what are the vibration specs? That's right, you don't know. The human brain can invent vibration where there is none due to racism.
 
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I’ve had friends that have gone on Japanese and Chinese high speed trains and they prefer Japanese trains for its superior comfort. Original is always better than cheap knockoffs.
Chinese clowns under communist chief Xi accumulate money then weapons to intimidate and threaten Vietnam, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia and other. A total technology embargo for all companies must follow this minor Huawei step. Let’s see if they can continue to threaten us with war.

What exactly was invented by China?

Give me some examples!
 
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Chinese clowns under communist chief Xi accumulate money then weapons to intimidate and threaten Vietnam, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia and other. A total technology embargo for all companies must follow this minor Huawei step. Let’s see if they can continue to threaten us with war.


What exactly was invented by China?

Give me some examples!

China steals other people’s technology and adds a couple of small things and then claim they are inventors. China is still catching up to the West in technology and even that catch up is through theft and forced technology transfer.

The West invented the automobile, aircraft, telephone, light bulb, internet, penicillin, microscope, ECG, etc. These are game changing technologies the whole world uses. China’s most important invention in modern times that changed the world is the malaria drug invented by Tu Youyou.

I have heard that even most of the patents GRANTED to Chinese companies are just small design and utility changes to existing technologies. They haven’t invented new technologies and industries into existence because their education system doesn’t encourage critical thinking, it’s all just memorising.
 
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