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U.S. Braced for Fights With Pakistanis in Bin Laden Raid

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Leon E. Panetta, the C.I.A. director, will reportedly meet soon with his Pakistani counterpart, Lt. Gen. Ahmad Shuja Pasha.



WASHINGTON — President Obama insisted that the assault force hunting down Osama bin Laden last week be large enough to fight its way out of Pakistan if confronted by hostile local police officers and troops, senior administration and military officials said Monday.

In revealing additional details about planning for the mission, senior officials also said that two teams of specialists were on standby: One to bury Bin Laden if he was killed, and a second composed of lawyers, interrogators and translators in case he was captured alive. That team was set to meet aboard a Navy ship, mostly likely the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson in the North Arabian Sea.

Mr. Obama’s decision to increase the size of the force sent into Pakistan shows that he was willing to risk a military confrontation with a close ally in order to capture or kill the leader of Al Qaeda.

Such a fight would have set off an even larger breach with the Pakistanis than has taken place since officials in Islamabad learned that helicopters filled with members of a Navy Seals team had flown undetected into one of their cities, and burst into a compound where Bin Laden was hiding.

One senior Obama administration official, pressed on the rules of engagement for one of the riskiest clandestine operations attempted by the C.I.A. and the military’s Joint Special Operations Command in many years, said: “Their instructions were to avoid any confrontation if at all possible. But if they had to return fire to get out, they were authorized to do it.”

The planning also illustrates how little the administration trusted the Pakistanis as they set up their operation. They also rejected a proposal to bring the Pakistanis in on the mission.

Under the original plan, two assault helicopters were going to stay on the Afghanistan side of the border waiting for a call if they were needed. But the aircraft would have been about 90 minutes away from the Bin Laden compound.

About 10 days before the raid, Mr. Obama reviewed the plans and pressed his commanders as to whether they were taking along enough forces to fight their way out if the Pakistanis arrived on the scene and tried to interfere with the operation.

That resulted in the decision to send two more helicopters carrying additional troops. These followed the two lead Black Hawk helicopters that carried the actual assault team. While there was no confrontation with the Pakistanis, one of those backup helicopters was ultimately brought in to the scene of the raid when a Black Hawk was damaged while making a hard landing.

“Some people may have assumed we could talk our way out of a jam, but given our difficult relationship with Pakistan right now, the president did not want to leave anything to chance,” said one senior administration official, who like others would not be quoted by name describing details of the secret mission. “He wanted extra forces if they were necessary.”

With tensions between the United States and Pakistan escalating since the raid, American officials on Monday sought to tamp down the divisions and pointed to some encouraging developments.

A United States official said that American investigators would soon be allowed to interview Bin Laden’s three widows, now being held by Pakistani authorities, a demand that Mr. Obama’s national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, made on television talk shows on Sunday.

American officials say the widows, as well as a review of the trove of documents and other data the Seals team collected from the raid, could reveal important details, not only about Bin Laden’s life and activities since he fled into Pakistan from Afghanistan in 2001, but also information about Qaeda plots, personnel and planning.

“We believe that it is very important to maintain the cooperative relationship with Pakistan precisely because it’s in our national security interest to do so,” said the White House spokesman, Jay Carney.

In an effort to help mend the latest rupture in relations, the C.I.A. director, Leon E. Panetta, will meet soon with his counterpart, Lt. Gen. Ahmad Shuja Pasha, head of the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, or ISI, “to discuss the way forward in the common fight against Al Qaeda,” an American official said.

On Sunday, Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called the Pakistani Army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani. “Mullen just wanted to check in with him,” said an American military official. “The conversation was civil, but sober, given the pressure that the general is under right now.”

In describing the mission, the officials said that American surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft were watching and listening to how Pakistan’s police forces and military responded to the raid. That determined how long the commandos could safely remain on the ground going through the compound collecting computer hard drives, thumb drives and documents.

American forces were under strict orders to avoid engaging with any Pakistani forces that responded to the commotion at the Bin Laden compound, senior administration officials said.

If a confrontation appeared imminent, there were contingency plans for senior American officials, including Admiral Mullen, to call their Pakistani counterparts to avert an armed clash.

But when he reviewed the plans, Mr. Obama voiced concern that this was not enough to protect the troops on the mission, administration officials said.

In planning for the possible capture of Bin Laden, officials decided they would take him aboard a Navy ship to preclude battles over jurisdiction.

The plan, officials said, was to do an initial interrogation for any information that might prevent a pending attack or identify the location of other Qaeda leaders.

“There was a heck of a lot of planning that went into this for almost any and all contingencies, including capture,” one senior administration official said.

In the end, the team organized to handle his death was called into duty. They did a quick forensics study of the body, washed it, and buried it at sea.

But the officials acknowledged that the mission always was weighted toward killing, given the possibility that Bin Laden would be armed or wearing an explosive vest.
A version of this article appeared in print on May 10, 2011, on page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: BIGGER RAID UNIT BRACED FOR FIGHT WITH PAKISTANIS.

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US braced for fights with Pak troops in Osama operation


WASHINGTON: US official has revealed that assault force hunting down Osama bin Laden last week was large enough to fight its way out of Pakistan if confronted by local troops.

According to the official, two teams of specialists were on standby in this regard.

He said that Obama while reviewing the plans insisted to increase the troops for the protection of assault team, after which two extra helicopters packed with SEALs were put on alert to control any untoward incident.

Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Mike Mullen on Sunday met with Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani while meeting between CIA Chief Leon Panetta and ISI Chief Shuja Pasha is expected soon.
 
what is more surprising is that there is no affert on the part of Obama admistration to tone down the event......

also :
One aircraft was identified as a US AWACS and the remaining five were recognised as F-18 jets of the US. These planes flew near the Pakistani border, but did not cross into the airspace of Pakistan,”.

does that mean US was even ready for a arial confortation ..
 
OK - so the message this piece is supposed to deliver is ..... "We're mad and no less than the President is leading our position - put up or shut up..beeches!" - we.. not exactly, but close enough. And of course the US has also let it be known that Osama may have scheduling problems and may not be able to make disparaging remarks about Pakistan from Pakistan, alas, the loss.

Readers know I've been sour on this relationship for the last couple of years, but I see these as terribly positive developments - positive for Pakistan and positive for the US.

Can Pakistan formulate a response that conveys it's desire to maintain diplomatic relations and enhance commercial relations even as the immutable decision to reset security relations, engages US leadership and public with sincerity?
 
Understandable.

Whenever troops are inserted into hostile environment all contingencies are on the table and catered for.
 
OK - so the message this piece is supposed to deliver is ..... "We're mad and no less than the President is leading our position - put up or shut up..beeches!" - we.. not exactly, but close enough. And of course the US has also let it be known that Osama may have scheduling problems and may not be able to make disparaging remarks about Pakistan from Pakistan, alas, the loss.

Readers know I've been sour on this relationship for the last couple of years, but I see these as terribly positive developments - positive for Pakistan and positive for the US.

Can Pakistan formulate a response that conveys it's desire to maintain diplomatic relations and enhance commercial relations even as the immutable decision to reset security relations, engages US leadership and public with sincerity?

Muse,

Of course Pak can provided it is willing to wipe the slate clean & write afresh. This converges on the same issue of transparency, honesty of approach & intent and not riding more than a boat at a time.

Pak would need to identify the issues that have made it a near pariah state and made its name synonymous with terrorism and address them from within.
 
Yeah, 15 commandos could potentially kill 10,000 soldiers...I will tell you guys something--Your generals are slaves of Amrika. In order to control the people, they are creating fear. What exactly could Amrika do against Iran other than virus? Did Panetta announce war?? Bull dogs can only bark...they only bite cowards like Kiyani, Pasha, Zardari and awam.
 
It is a life time experience watching Kiyani, Zia, Musharaf, Pasha, Ayub and others dancing on American song..Have you ever seen a belly dance 'mujra'--This is what your politicians and generals do..They do not have any respect which in turn means, Pakistan has no respect. Getting a dollar won't make you a respectable person Kiyani, earning a dollar will make you. You spent all your life and look at the words which will be remembered about you.
 
If Amrika announces that we will immediately give 40 billion dollars to Pakistan, your gernali will dance with pants down. Ohh, to satisfy mullahs, Amrika will once again become hero and CIA will become the savior. Your country's worth was...Countries like Pakistan have no right to exist because of their sleeping awam and for sale generals.
 
Yeah, 15 commandos could potentially kill 10,000 soldiers...I will tell you guys something--Your generals are slaves of Amrika. In order to control the people, they are creating fear. What exactly could Amrika do against Iran other than virus? Did Panetta announce war?? Bull dogs can only bark...they only bite cowards like Kiyani, Pasha, Zardari and awam.

Very well said ..Bro!.........we never got independance from GORAZ in 1947 till now ...and dont knw what gonna be in future...everything is exposing now ...weve been decieved on the name of Islam all the time ....:what:
 
Yes, now besharaam hukamraan cannot decieve you people so they are using fear. The journey of boot army ftom Zia, the billion dollar mullah factory to Kiyani, the billion dollar fear factory.
 
Kiyani and all the sold maal including politicians and others should be executed immediately. Execute Maulana diesel, altar telephone bhai, nawaz islami, Zardari, Gilani, Shujat, Musharaf--This is the only way left to wash the dirt. If you don't wash this dirt, Panetta will but that won't look nice, will it?
 
"Expect the best, but prepare for the worst" Zig Zaglar
 
The best is-Kiyani and Zardari getting a job and the worst is, people on the street will die, awam. Panetta is right--run the dozer and doze sleepy awam and sold hukamraan. Countries like Pakistan are useless--Tell me one accomplishment under your belt-- Dong Missile or shaheen--tell me one thing
 
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