Type 055 DDG News & Discussions

[ChineseToTheBone]

This is my CG

Amazing job! Thank you for your great work.

 

[Speeder 2]

But where is the IRBM threat to China? I suppose India, but the China has land based missiles for that.
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But where is the IRBM threat to China? A good question!

So China can stop developing High Speed Rail now, cuz where is the railway threat to China?

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Now, China develops technologies for the sake of technology advancement, not only for any imminent threat.

Where's IRBM threat coming from? 055 will be used anywhere in the world whenver situations arise, which could be any.

India threat? Please, do not insult Chinese intelligence.

 

[yusheng]

 

[clibra]

nice 055, so huge, the completion is looking good for first ship, look like already able to sea trial,
hopefully can get side view...

Yes you are right, almost all weapons and E-stuff were installed and ready for testing and validation in coming sea trial.

 

[teddy]

What Sonar system does it used? Why isthe sooner hull is far more smaller than those US' DDG??

 

[clibra]

Say

22 YJ18
16 YU8
32 HQ19
26 CJ10
32X4 HQ26

The most awesome fire power on the planet!

WTF! is this so called 大炸逼？ is "big blaster" the English of 大炸逼？

效费比太低，没必要。布置在青藏高原的远火旅或者东十旅就能承担同样的任务，且火力强度会大很多。更重要的是这些火力打击单元完全处在我空军的保护范围之内。

correct，and the 5 km high altitude can give us range bonus.

 

[clibra]

What Sonar system does it used? Why isthe sooner hull is far more smaller than those US' DDG??

Who got the bigger ball ? Who is the real man?

055

KDX3

the 67th Arleigh Burke class

Dude, now do you think US' DDG were sissies ?

 

[monitor]

China launches Asia’s biggest, most advanced warship, giving PLA greater reach
The Type 055 destroyer is similar in size to the US Navy’s Arleigh Burke class ships and is billed as a major step forward for Chinese sea power

Liu ZhenUPDATED : Thursday, 29 Jun 2017, 12:06AM


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Beijing launched what it calls the most advanced and largest warship in Asia on Wednesday, billing it as a major step forward in the modernisation of its navy, according to the official military newspaper.

As the first of the new Type 055 guided-missile destroyers – which have a displacement of more than 12,000 tonnes – military experts said it was designed to accompany the country’s future aircraft carrier battle groups.

The destroyer was built at the Jiangnan shipyard in Shanghai and was equipped with air defence, anti-missile, anti-ship and anti-submarine weapons, PLA Daily newspaper reported.


The launch of the warship marks an important step towards China’s dream of having a strong and modern naval force, General Zhang Youxia, a member of the Central Military Commission who oversees the army’s equipment, was quoted as saying at the launch ceremony.

Military analysts said the Type 055 was in theory the world’s second most powerful destroyer – after the US Navy’s DDG-1000, or the Zumwalt class. The capabilities of the Type 055 surpass South Korea’s DDG-991 and Japan’s Atago class, which have a 10,000 tonne displacement.

An artist’s impression of the Type 055 destroyer, which China says is the most advanced warship in Asia. Photo: Handout


“In some respects – such as the size, radar system, missile capacity and the multifunctionality in use – the Type 055 has now caught up, or at least it’s on the same level as the United States’ main destroyer,” Li Jie, a Beijing-based naval expert, said.

Can China's powerful new navy behemoth outclass America's warships?

With its size far exceeding a standard destroyer, the launch of the Chinese-designed and built 055 was as significant as that of an aircraft carrier, affording the People’s Liberation Army Navy advanced sea capability and weaponry development, experts said.

The need to protect the country’s overseas interests and vital waterways used by oil tankers and cargo ships is expected to increase as the country’s ambitious belt and road trade initiative starts to take shape. But unlike the US Navy, which has a true global presence, PLA ships do not have many overseas ports for resupply, according to Beijing-based military analyst Zhou Chenming.

Type 052D Chinese destroyers Yinchuan and Changsha. Photo: SCMP Pictures


“A larger, better equipped and more advanced vessel will allow the Chinese navy to go further and better protect the country’s interests overseas,” Zhou said. “The Type 055 has filled a big gap.”

Li said the warship would play an important role escorting aircraft carriers or the new advanced Type 071 amphibious assault ships, and it could also lead a comprehensive combat group of smaller destroyers and frigates.

For these purposes the PLA Navy would need at least 10 Type 055 destroyers, and at the current capacity China could build one or two a year, Li said.

Meanwhile, the sheer size of the warship means there is space for more – and more powerful – weapons. Before the 055, the PLA Navy’s most advanced destroyer was the Type 052D, a 7,500-tonne vessel that squeezed in a flat-array radar, a 64-cell vertical launch system (VLS) and long-range anti-air missiles.

Details of the new destroyer.


“It’s like a small boy carrying a huge bag that’s difficult to handle,” Zhou said of the 052D destroyer.

The Type 055, according to the Jane’s Defence Weekly, is over 180 metres long – more than 20 metres longer than 052D. It has a 128-cell VLS and missiles to attack planes, ships, submarines and missiles, making it the most powerful destroyer in Asia.

Given its size, it could also serve as a platform to develop the next generation of weapons, such as high-energy radio-frequency equipment, Zhou said.“When you have a bigger home, you can fit in different new furniture.”

But Macau-based military analyst Antony Wong Dong said the Type 055 had some “disappointing” design flaws. The relatively low positioning of its flat-array radar system would affect its range of detection, he said, while the use of light aluminium alloy in the upper decks would make it vulnerable to damage.

“Despite its very modern stealth shape, the damage control capability is a big concern,” Wong said. “The design follows the Chinese convention, probably due to a lack of experience ... in a combat situation.”

Next, the warship will undergo equipment and sea testing and it is due to enter service next year.

 

[cnleio]

BIG SHIP MADE IN CHINA ~!

Compare with Zumwalt-class DDG-1000

 

[AmirPatriot]

Dude, Standard-6 could intercept ICBM with its max height of 600km.

No it can't. Even Raytheon don't claim that. It has only ever been tested against MRBMs, not even IRBMs.

So the logic of armament development of PLA, we should get what the US has owned or been developing

In my humble opinion, that isn't a great logic. And I'm not sure it is followed by the PLA.

Each country has its own specific military requirements because each country has its own likely military threats.

The US is an interventionist power, therefore it requires a weapon for basically everything. Hence it needs a ship based ABM to intercept ballistic missiles fielded by many of its opponents like Iran and China.

Now, China develops technologies for the sake of technology advancement, not only for any imminent threat.

That doesn't hold water for me. If you want to advance your military technology for future (but not current or foreseeable) threats, you set up an advanced research program. That's why the US has DARPA.

Where's IRBM threat coming from? 055 will be used anywhere in the world whenver situations arise, which could be any.

Anywhere around the world? But China is not an interventionist power. China's primary area of concern is South China Sea and maybe the pacific. In none of these theatres does China face a TBM/MRBM threat. Unless, as I've already asked, China considers continuing South Korean BM development or India's BM program a threat.

So China can stop developing High Speed Rail now, cuz where is the railway threat to China?

What has high speed rail got to do with the anti-ballistic missile capabilities of China's new DDG?

More to the point, what is a "railway threat"?

India threat? Please, do not insult Chinese intelligence.

So then where's the threat that requires ship based ABM?

 

[Stuttgart001]

No it can't. Even Raytheon don't claim that. It has only ever been tested against MRBMs, not even IRBMs.



In my humble opinion, that isn't a great logic. And I'm not sure it is followed by the PLA.

Each country has its own specific military requirements because each country has its own likely military threats.

The US is an interventionist power, therefore it requires a weapon for basically everything. Hence it needs a ship based ABM to intercept ballistic missiles fielded by many of its opponents like Iran and China.



That doesn't hold water for me. If you want to advance your military technology for future (but not current or foreseeable) threats, you set up an advanced research program. That's why the US has DARPA.



Anywhere around the world? But China is not an interventionist power. China's primary area of concern is South China Sea and maybe the pacific. In none of these theatres does China face a TBM/MRBM threat. Unless, as I've already asked, China considers continuing South Korean BM development or India's BM program a threat.



What has high speed rail got to do with the anti-ballistic missile capabilities of China's new DDG?

More to the point, what is a "railway threat"?



So then where's the threat that requires ship based ABM?

Apparently, you know little about China millitary.
I overtly point out that China is developing the ABM to counter the threat from US.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Apparently, you know little about China millitary.

That is true, and I don't hide this fact. That is why I came here asking questions.

I overtly point out that China is developing the ABM to counter the threat from US.

So you think China is developing a naval ABM to counter US ICBMs?

 

[Speeder 2]

That doesn't hold water for me. If you want to advance your military technology for future (but not current or foreseeable) threats, you set up an advanced research program. That's why the US has DARPA.

China is not the US. I guess you'll have to get used to the fact for the rest of your life, won't you?

Anywhere around the world? But China is not an interventionist power. China's primary area of concern is South China Sea and maybe the pacific. In none of these theatres does China face a TBM/MRBM threat. Unless, as I've already asked, China considers continuing South Korean BM development or India's BM program a threat.

"Anywhere around the world" & "interventionist power " are not 2 concepts that are mutually exclusive.

Imagine that I jet around the world on vacations, must I be an interventionist power, am I ?

055 will be where Chinese merchant ships are, where Chinese overseas national interests are, to protect at all costs according to the UN charter, unless of course you think the UN charters are interventionist?

What has high speed rail got to do with the anti-ballistic missile capabilities of China's new DDG?

More to the point, what is a "railway threat"?

Err... see there is a thing in the world called "analogy".

So then where's the threat that requires ship based ABM?

Iran, for example.

Yeah, must be IRAN!

 

[Stuttgart001]

So you think China is developing a naval ABM to counter US ICBMs?

Yes. It is obvious that the main rivalry of PLAN is US navy.
No one really believe US developed ABM tech to counter the Ballisitic Missiles of rogue nations.
People all know it is for China and Russia, and the latter and US used to develop their ABM system during cold war era and ceased then due to difficulty of technique and finance.
Altough it is not proven that the ABM system could intercept the latest ICBM of Russia and China, no one could predict how efficiently the ABM could evolve in the coming future.
Since China has resource to invest in this kind of tech, it is reasonable for China to develop similar system to persue relative balance in the nuclear mutual-deterrence between US and China.

 

[Speeder 2]

I love how are the Western media always term 055 as " making it the most powerful destroyer in Asia. "

As if outside Asia, e.g. America or Europe, it will not be the most powerful. This sour grape mentality is priceless!