Type 052D DDG News & Discussions

[terranMarine]

A report back from 2015, China will own 415 warships by 2030 and now 500?

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...-aircraft-carrier-destroyer-frigate/27725003/

 

[帅的一匹]

A report back from 2015, China will own 415 warships by 2030 and now 500?

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...-aircraft-carrier-destroyer-frigate/27725003/

How many ships IN gonna have in year 2030?

 

[terranMarine]

How many ships IN gonna have in year 2030?

American analysts don't seem to make predictions on how many warships India may have, the only links i can find are

http://defenceupdate.in/india-will-3rd-powerful-navy-world-2030/
http://aermech.in/top-10-most-advanced-upcoming-projectsfutureindian-navy/
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-5-most-powerful-navies-2030-16723

If India is gonna spend a lot on building up her Navy by 2030 many believe Japan can kiss goodbye to her ranking.

 

[帅的一匹]

American analysts don't seem to make predictions on how many warships India may have, the only links i can find are

http://defenceupdate.in/india-will-3rd-powerful-navy-world-2030/
http://aermech.in/top-10-most-advanced-upcoming-projectsfutureindian-navy/
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-5-most-powerful-navies-2030-16723

If India is gonna spend a lot on building up her Navy by 2030 many believe Japan can kiss goodbye to her ranking.

Unless India can localize the production of navy ships, it can't be included as real meaning strong navy in the world. Japan is still far head India. The strongest navy in the world ranking 2030:
1. China/USA
2. Europe
3. Russia
4. Japan
5. India

India even still can't produce a torpedo for its French squid class subs, make it the only sub doesn't have torpedo to use in this planet. I mean India doesn't have brain with them when they are making decision and do things. They black list Augusta and consequently the white head. If we put a rank of joking of global navy, IN will top it. India is very far away from a navy power, how can we call it a strong navy even can't produce a torpedo? Technically Actually India is in the class with Vietnam and Malaysia, the only difference is India is much richer.

 

[terranMarine]

Unless India can localize the production of navy ships, it can't be included as real meaning strong navy in the world. Japan is still far head India. The strongest navy in the world ranking 2030:
1. China/USA
2. Europe
3. Russia
4. Japan
5. India

Agree, I don't think India can displace Japanese Navy so easily with a mere 13 years time span. American Naval institutes have been busy publishing PLAN development for the past couple of years but you don't see them publishing hundreds of pages of analysis on the Indian Navy. There's only one explanation for that.

 

[帅的一匹]

Agree, I don't think India can displace Japanese Navy so easily with a mere 13 years time span. American Naval institutes have been busy publishing PLAN development for the past couple of years but you don't see them publishing hundreds of pages of analysis on the Indian Navy. There's only one explanation for that.

I can rank you ahead of Japan, because India has SSN and Japan doesn't.

When we judge the real capacity and power of a navy, we shall look at the production ability, the endurance it has to massively manufacture battle ship in war time. India as of now, can't produce domestic gas turbine, main gun, ship born VLS, long range ship born detection and fire control radar, ship born helicopters, and even the bullet proof jacket their marine dress. The power of India navy is only on paper, whether it can stand a test in a long lasting full scale war is questionable.

 

[grey boy 2]

New 052D DDG

 

[cnleio]

New 052D DDG

Very nice ... China type052D DDG building as fast as we can.




South China Sea Fleet type052D training

 

[english_man]

How many ships IN gonna have in year 2030?

Well, if the Indians want a proper Navy, then they need to learn how to speed up the build of their warships.
I mean looking at the construction times, it took the Indians over 10 years just to build a Destroyer!

 

[HannibalBarca]

Well, if the Indians want a proper Navy, then they need to learn how to speed up the build of their warships.
I mean looking at the construction times, it took the Indians over 10 years just to build a Destroyer!

Answer his question...
Sir @wanglaokan Indian will get 2 to 3 more ships by then at this rate...

 

[nang2]

1.cina/?USA?

So funny.
china only have Very few and original Nuclear submarine
Only two Type 093 class Nuclear submarines are in service
In 2009, USN ONI listed the Type 093 as being noisier than Project 671RTM (NATO reporting name Victor III) which entered service in 1979

USA：36 X Los Angeles（SSN） 、3 x Seawolf class（SSN）、13 x Virginia Class（SSN）、4 x Ohio Class（SSGN）、14 x Ohio Class（SSBN）

Russia：1 X пр.885(SSN)、4xпр.671（SSN）、11 x пр.971(SSN)、4 x пр.945(SSN)、8 x пр.949(SSGN)、3xпр.955(SSBN)、9xпр.667(SSBN)、1xпр.09796（SSNS）、1xпр.09787（SSNS）、3xпр.1851（SSNS）、3xпр.1910（SSNS）、1xпр.10831（SSNS）、1xпр.20120（SSNS）

China：3 X Type 093（SSN） 、2 X Type 093（SSN）、4 X Type 094（SSBN）


Your aircraft carrier purchased from the Ukraine and it‘s not in service
Your aircraft Aircraft carrier purchased from the Ukraine too
··········Not to mention J-10、J-11、J-20、J-15 used Russian's AL-31F
052C and 052D used Ukrainian gas turbine、Russian radar
Bought a lot of Russian warships,such as Kilo、Sovremenny、Pomornik、Foxtrot
Still using the Soviet aircraft,such as Tu-16、Mig-21

Then you told us China has the world's strongests navy Like the US?

By 2030, so be patient. And it is just a prediction, so take it with some soy sauce.

 

[Salty_Waters]

1.cina/?USA?

So funny.
china only have Very few and original Nuclear submarine
Only two Type 093 class Nuclear submarines are in service
In 2009, USN ONI listed the Type 093 as being noisier than Project 671RTM (NATO reporting name Victor III) which entered service in 1979

USA：36 X Los Angeles（SSN） 、3 x Seawolf class（SSN）、13 x Virginia Class（SSN）、4 x Ohio Class（SSGN）、14 x Ohio Class（SSBN）

Russia：1 X пр.885(SSN)、4xпр.671（SSN）、11 x пр.971(SSN)、4 x пр.945(SSN)、8 x пр.949(SSGN)、3xпр.955(SSBN)、9xпр.667(SSBN)、1xпр.09796（SSNS）、1xпр.09787（SSNS）、3xпр.1851（SSNS）、3xпр.1910（SSNS）、1xпр.10831（SSNS）、1xпр.20120（SSNS）

China：3 X Type 093（SSN） 、2 X Type 093（SSN）、4 X Type 094（SSBN）


Your aircraft carrier purchased from the Ukraine and it‘s not in service
Your aircraft Aircraft carrier purchased from the Ukraine too
··········Not to mention J-10、J-11、J-20、J-15 used Russian's AL-31F
052C and 052D used Ukrainian gas turbine、Russian radar
Bought a lot of Russian warships,such as Kilo、Sovremenny、Pomornik、Foxtrot
Still using the Soviet aircraft,such as Tu-16、Mig-21

Then you told us China navy has the world's strongests navy Like the US?

To 2030 years,US Will have more than 10 aircraft carriers and more than 40 SSNs、
Russian Will have 2 aircraft carriers and more than 40 SSNs and SSGNs
china wil have less than 3 aircraft carriers and less than 15 SSNs

The result is obvious

Well, on China's self sufficiency in key technologies I would agree with you. But seriously? Russia will have 2 Aircraft carriers by 2030? What are you dreaming of? If Russia is lucky enough, it will be ready with the nakimov modernization by 2025. There is no way they will build two new carriers, there will be no way that Kuznetzov will be operational in a satisfying way.

Russia was dependent on ukraine gas turbines as well, and they don't have reliable gas turbines rite now for their grigorovich frigates.

Russia has delays with key technologies as well, no real working AIP on subs for example.

So, I understand a kind of doubtful questioning all that heroic news from super duper China fanboy media, but to compare it with Russia, is a joke in itself. Because in technological terms, China has or is overtaking Russia right now.

And your prediction for Chinese CVs. If they finished Shandong, and have it operational by 2022, they will have two more operational than Russia, because Kuznetzov will be decommissioned as a piece of rusty metal. Well and the third one will be ready by 2030, that is something we all have to take serious.

so give it an realistic view, or get in line with those retarded China fanboys

 

[Akasa]

1.cina/?USA?

So funny.
china only have Very few and original Nuclear submarine
Only two Type 093 class Nuclear submarines are in service
In 2009, USN ONI listed the Type 093 as being noisier than Project 671RTM (NATO reporting name Victor III) which entered service in 1979

USA：36 X Los Angeles（SSN） 、3 x Seawolf class（SSN）、13 x Virginia Class（SSN）、4 x Ohio Class（SSGN）、14 x Ohio Class（SSBN）

Russia：1 X пр.885(SSN)、4xпр.671（SSN）、11 x пр.971(SSN)、4 x пр.945(SSN)、8 x пр.949(SSGN)、3xпр.955(SSBN)、9xпр.667(SSBN)、1xпр.09796（SSNS）、1xпр.09787（SSNS）、3xпр.1851（SSNS）、3xпр.1910（SSNS）、1xпр.10831（SSNS）、1xпр.20120（SSNS）

China：3 X Type 093（SSN） 、2 X Type 093（SSN）、4 X Type 094（SSBN）


Your aircraft carrier purchased from the Ukraine and it‘s not in service
Your aircraft Aircraft carrier purchased from the Ukraine too
··········Not to mention J-10、J-11、J-20、J-15 used Russian's AL-31F
052C and 052D used Ukrainian gas turbine、Russian radar
Bought a lot of Russian warships,such as Kilo、Sovremenny、Pomornik、Foxtrot
Still using the Soviet aircraft,such as Tu-16、Mig-21

Then you told us China navy has the world's strongests navy Like the US?

To 2030 years,US Will have more than 10 aircraft carriers and more than 40 SSNs、
Russian Will have 2 aircraft carriers and more than 40 SSNs and SSGNs
china wil have less than 3 aircraft carriers and less than 15 SSNs

The result is obvious

The Type 052D/C do not use Russian radars.

 

[cnleio]

 

[cnleio]

DaLian shipyard, it said the 9th new type052D DDG in China