Turkish X - FILES, mysterious cases of death.

[Hurshid Celebi]

Before opening this thread I discussed with friends about it.
It is a very current newsworthy topic !
We believe all in ECEL and KADER, but I believe it was necessary to open this thread.
I know many speculations will be done,
but possibly it can teach and help us for the future and some people can contribute with serious "Facts".

In our region "Assassination is a sophisticated kind of warfare", since centuries.

Not to go far, what really happened to Atatürk (Mustafa Kemal Pasa) the great founder of our holly Republic ?
Did he died cause of " Alcohol abuse" or was he poisoned with CHININ overdose ?

What happened to President ÖZAL , did he died after morning sport cause of official "Heart Attack" ?
( Short time after he visited ethnic Turk Republics to found a Union)

What happened to "BASBUG" Alpaslan Türkes, did he died cause of "official" "Heart Attack" ?
(Short time after he visited Germany and tried to establish a pact between Turkey, Germany and ethnic Turk Republics).

Last not least;

what happened to visionary MUSTAFA KOC ? ( The accelerator of privateTurkish Defense Industry)
Did he really died like President Özal after morning sports - "official" -cause of heart attack ?
(One night after he visited President Erdogan and it was decided between them to develop KOC-Holding to a global company)

Who followed him ?

Ömer KOC , a nobody . - What is his secret ?
Whose orders will he follow to keep his secrets kept SECRET and let so KOC Holding Survive ?
Why not Ali KOC his Mustafa's -backup- brother and respected man, active in many fields ?

I won't mention RIP Muhsin Yazicioglu brother.

Is there a political party in TURKEY, the so called "deep state" behind it and supports
the aims of "Masons or of the global 70 families" who administrate 50 % of the global monetary power ?

 

[Bismarck]

Comment from Prof. Ilber Ortayli (The Untouchable) :

His CV : As the son of a Crimean Tatar family who fled Joseph Stalin's persecution and deportation, he was born in Bregenz,Austria on 21 May 1947 and came to Turkey when he was 2 years old. Ortaylı attended elementary school and St. George's Austrian High School in İstanbul and then Ankara Atatürk High School. He graduated from Ankara University Mekteb-i Mülkiye (Faculty of Political Science) and completed his postgraduate studies at the University of Chicagounder Professor Halil İnalcık and at the University of Vienna.

'Yeni Türkiye böyle geri zekalılar olmadan kurulabilir'
“Bunlar sizin anlamayacağınız şeydir. Bunların hepsi mahalle dedikodusu. Her şeye bulaşmayın. Bunu gazeteler çok yapıyor. Kendine göre yeni Türkiye kuruyorlar. B.. kurarsınız. Güldürmesinler adamı. Yeni Türkiye böyle geri zekalılar olmadan kurulabilir ancak. Nereye baksan cahil. Bir tane herif var. (Engin Ardınç) Eski solcu, alkolik, geri zekalı… O da konuşuyor. Git başka tarih kitabı oku hayvan. Baban seni Fransız okuluna yollamış. Lisan biliyorum diyorsun git başka dilde oku. Herif okul kitabıyla tarih yazıyor geri zekalı. Hiçbir memlekette olmaz böyle bir şey anladın mı? Sizde iyi bir gazeteci olmak istiyorsanız böyle aptal işlere karışmayın.”

God thanks, you have found a thread which suits to you! Endless conspiracy theorys.

 

[Bismarck]

About Uwe Barschel:

It was suicide. Uwe Barschel: Rechtsmediziner Janssen geht von Suizid aus - SPIEGEL ONLINE

 

[Bismarck]

Contrary :

Uwe Barschel als ARD-Film: So wahrscheinlich ist die Mord-Theorie - DIE WELT

Possibly Killed !

Let's hold on facts not possibility causes! Is it possible that he was killed? Of course. Is there any evidences? No.

 

[Bismarck]

Nobody will show you evidence. Evidence is in the archives.

Or do you want evidence that DURSUN KARATAS and some other people were German agents, monitored 24h/365d
and later "plutonized",
that in Munich 3 PKK terrorists were eliminated and vaporized,
before an suicide attack on Munich Metro happened and that there is a hidden agreement
(ZIMNI MUTABAKAT) between PKK and German Gov.

-Mach mich nicht Wuschig -

I won't risk PDF forums freedom of speech . Facts between lines are enough for experts.

Have you seen that archive or known any one who has? If nobody has seen (secret) that archive, how do you know what it says ?

Bro, even if I inclined to believe you, without proofs, it means nothing!

Maybe you mixed up proofs with evidences?

 

[madmusti]

@Bismarck

What about the German role in this "Kurdish Issue" ?

What about the Milan ATGM´s & G36´s ? All of these are a coincidence ?

I mean look at your own Media, there will be your answers !

 

[Bismarck]

@Bismarck

What about the German role in this "Kurdish Issue" ?

What about the Milan ATGM´s & G36´s ? All of these are a coincidence ?

I mean look at your own Media, there will be your answers !

There is a huge kurdish lobby in Germany who push his own interests to our government. We want no divide any county. On the other hand, we know Turks as oppressor of Kurds, true or not. So, many oppositions want a kurdish autonomy, free from turkish oppressions.

About that weapons sale to the Kurds. Even Turks sale weapons to Kurds, and the rest of the worlds do same. The reason for that sale is only IS! Official!

Btw, our media is highly anti Turkish. Such a shame!

 

[madmusti]

@Bismarck

 

[madmusti]

@Hurshid Celebi

Altay Tankı’nın ihalesiyle Erdoğan niçin ilgileniyor – Sözcü Gazetesi

Wait for the Future

 

[Ceri]

Maybe you know Erdal he was so much punished from FETO and Arinc !
He is a serious and honest soldier. Intellectual and nationalist Gazi.
I did meet him . "Gayipten atan beyinsiz degilim".

I know what you assume, but RTE talked with M.K. a night ago.
It would be too easy and primitive to accuse a presidential conspiracy.
BTW , Bismarck is for sure a Turk ???

Fuat Avner olmasin ??

Bismarck is old school German. He knows that Turkish Nationalism + German nationalism during the first world war was coexistant. Enver Pasha was good friends with the Germans to fight off agressive imperialist English, so that they couldn't carve up our empire, which they ended up doing. Me thinks, Bismarck is intelligent german who knows these stuff

 

[Ceri]

@Ceri

You know AVNER ? That's jewish name of AVNI

Yes, the man who writes insider stuff from AKP. He is Fetoscu traitor, probably Arinc.
Right now im in Denmark/Sweden. I was part of upper echelon in FETO organization here, upon return to Turkey i'm gonna report these traitors one by one.