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Turkish PM Erdoğan to Putin: Take us to Shanghai

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has again opened up the debate on Turkey’s membership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), this time demanding a seat from Russian President Vladimir Putin to save Ankarafrom “the troubles” of the EU accession process.

Responding to a question over Ukraine’s recent decision to halt a trade pact with the European Union, Putin said the issue had no political dimension and that they would learn from Turkey’s EU experiences.

“We will ask Turkey what we can do. Turkey has great experience in EU talks,” Putin said at a joint conference with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in St. Petersburg. Erdoğan replied: “You are right. Fifty years of experience is not easy. Allow us into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and save us from this trouble.”

Ukraine abruptly abandoned a historic new alliance with the EU on Nov. 21, halting plans for an imminent trade pact with the bloc and saying it would instead revive talks with Russia.

The prime minister said he had conveyed Turkey’s membership request to Putin before. “We care about this.”

Turkey became the first NATO member state to become a “dialogue partner” with the regional body – which is colloquially known as the Shanghai Five – in April. Turkey said the cooperation would strengthen Turkey’s ties with the organization, primarily in the domains of economy and transportation.

The SCO’s members include Russia, China, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan.

The issue of SCO membership had come to the political agenda of Turkey earlier this year after Erdoğan said Turkey might opt to join the SCO. Erdoğan raised the issue in January at a time when hopes regarding the EU process were diminishing due to the adamant opposition of a number of members states toward Turkey’s membership.

“I said to Russian President Vladimir Putin, ‘You tease us, saying, ‘What [is Turkey] doing in the EU?’ Now I tease you: Include us in the Shanghai Five, and we will forget about the EU,’” Erdoğan said at the time. The prime minister’s remarks fueled debates on whether Turkey was moving away from its policy target of EU membership. President Abdullah Gül also reiterated that the SCO and the EU were not alternatives to each other at the time.

Accompanied by Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu and Energy Minister Taner Yıldız, Erdoğan met Putin and co-chaired the fourth session of the High-Level Russian-Turkish Cooperation Council, where the two sides signed several agreements.

Meanwhile, Putin said Western states must persuade the Syrian opposition to attend talks with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government which he said should take place as soon as possible.

“Russia took on the responsibility of convincing the Syrian leadership. We did our part. It is up to our partners, who must convince the opposition to do the same,” Putin said at the press conference.

Erdoğan said delays to the peace conference were simply buying time for al-Assad. “The civilian population has been killed with planes, helicopters, tanks and shells. In Syria, the regime bears the primary responsibility for this. On the opposite side, extremist groups also bear responsibility. But they have only short- and long-range weapons. But the regime does not differentiate,” Erdoğan said.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...wsCatID=359PageID=238&NID=58348&NewsCatID=359
 
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Good choice 8-) The US has itself to blame by backing YPG. You know what YPG does in Turkey.
 
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Even though Erdogan is quite the unpredictable type, this is most probably just a show to give the impression that Turkey doesn't need the west as much as the west (US and EU) needs Turkey. the current ties with the west, despite its ups and downs, are more important for Turkey than what Russia or SCO can offer at the moment.
 
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Nothing but a political move, Erdogan threats the EU by using SCO. To be honest SCO membership brings more trouble for Turkey which is deeply engaged with West bloc, be it military (NATO), economic (Customs Union) or eco-political (as a long-waited candidate of EU). Putin himself clearly declared what actually SCO aims by saying "Mono-polar world can't be accepted". If Turkey becomes a member of SCO that would probably end by crushing under conflicts of interests between the East and West. You can't stay neutral always...
 
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Would welcome Turkey in SCO memberships along with Pakistan. :D

Putin would say- why don't you (Turkey) resigned from NATO members now to proof yourself first before SCO members?

Alot of Turks favor NATO/West.
 
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Turkey is never going to accepted into the EU. I think their government knows this but neither Turkey nor the EU has the courage to cut off the other.
 
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Alot of Turks favor NATO/West.


I certainly don't, but yes, most Turks are obviously heavily brainwashed. According to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts this is even the case in Russia to some extent. Of course the same applies to many other couintries in the world. Due to reliance on the West, the Turkish economy remains fragile and subject to Western sanctions, if relations one day suddenly worsened for some reason. Countries such as Russia and China are much smarter and are seriously preparing for the future, decoupling their economies from the West. Even Germany (for now), France and Britain are Washington's vassals and not the economic powerhouses people think they are. They are extremely dependent on Washington which is a very bad thing.
 
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I think Turkey would be hard pushed to find genuine acceptance in any group and thus their current position is the best for them.
 
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Hakan isn't that from the meeting 22 November 2013 ?

A year old, *Sigh* our bureaucrats really have a hard time.
 
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Misread the title, thought it said Take us to your leader. Was expecting one of his random speeches. :(

Link is broken came up as this weird language.

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Misread the title, thought it said Take us to your leader. Was expecting one of his random speeches. :(

Link is broken came up as this weird language.

Server Error in '/' Application.
Input string was not in a correct format.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:

[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]
System.Number.StringToNumber(String str, NumberStyles options, NumberBuffer& number, NumberFormatInfo info, Boolean parseDecimal) +10162435
System.Number.ParseInt32(String s, NumberStyles style, NumberFormatInfo info) +207
Econtent.Controls.NewsModule.NewsModuleRelatedNewUC.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) +128
System.Web.Util.CalliHelper.EventArgFunctionCaller(IntPtr fp, Object o, Object t, EventArgs e) +25
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Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.5448; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.5420
Original transcript of that meeting President of Russia
 
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Even though Erdogan is quite the unpredictable type, this is most probably just a show to give the impression that Turkey doesn't need the west as much as the west (US and EU) needs Turkey. the current ties with the west, despite its ups and downs, are more important for Turkey than what Russia or SCO can offer at the moment.


Turkey's importance is priceless to the stability of Southwestern Europe and the Middle East. She is the link between Europe and Asia, literally and culturally. This is the reason why , in my opinion, Turkey must and should remain close to the West, especially Europe.

I certainly don't, but yes, most Turks are obviously heavily brainwashed. According to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts this is even the case in Russia to some extent. Of course the same applies to many other couintries in the world. Due to reliance on the West, the Turkish economy remains fragile and subject to Western sanctions, if relations one day suddenly worsened for some reason. Countries such as Russia and China are much smarter and are seriously preparing for the future, decoupling their economies from the West. Even Germany (for now), France and Britain are Washington's vassals and not the economic powerhouses people think they are. They are extremely dependent on Washington which is a very bad thing.


Comparatively , Turkey's economy is doing so much better than her Contiguous EU neighbors such as Greece, Bulgaria. In general, Turkey is doing so much better than they in various indices.
 
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Turkey's importance is priceless to the stability of Southwestern Europe and the Middle East. She is the link between Europe and Asia, literally and culturally. This is the reason why , in my opinion, Turkey must and should remain close to the West, especially Europe.




Comparatively , Turkey's economy is doing so much better than her Contiguous EU neighbors such as Greece, Bulgaria. In general, Turkey is doing so much better than they in various indices.

Hi,

If turkey was that important to Europe---they would have them join in----. Turkey would be better off looking inwards---towards asia and Asian partners---
 
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