Turkish guest destroys PressTV host and Mullah lackey

[xenon54 out]

I am not in favor of Iran's support to bashar al assad but we all have our ghosts don't we? Turkey is often blamed for Armenian genocide and high handedness against Kurds. Iran is blamed in the same way for sunnis and repressive policies in Afghanistan... I mean allegations are never ending. You guys need to find a way to work together.

We are talking about completely different things, just watch the first 3 minutes of the video in the first post and you will know what i mean.

 

[IR-TR]

Bro as i already told you before, Every country in the region has his own good terrorist organization. So NO MATTER HOW WE TALK AGAINST these group each country will keep supporting their own terrorists as the good guys while pointing the finger at the other 'bad' terror group. LOOL So i think its fruitless trying to convince the opposite camp his terrorist is a bad terrorist. Just give it up already bro.



LOOOL You are praising your terror group alias party of GOD for suicide bombing western targets? Not much different from ISIS supporters justifying their acts like they did in Tunisia lately against mostly British citizens. Using your logic FSA and other islamic groups should keep beheading/suicide bombing(a la Hezbollah, since they started with suicide bombings in the first place) Assad genocidal troops/soldiers,since they are all legitimate targets.

Anyway, i know you wont budge on your support for your so called 'GOD' party, will just advice you to be careful supporting such terror groups(even if u don't consider them as such) and justifying/applauding suicide bombings against western targets on a public forum like this one. It could land you in trouble/surveillance. You can keep up with your 'evil' west rhetoric though(no harm in that), though its funny coming from someone whose parents ran away from an eldorado like Mullah Iran to immigrate/settle in the west so they can give you a good/better life than you would have ever had in Mullah Iran. You should be contributing to Iran's revival/rise instead of staying in the west and contributing to its power/influence by paying taxes and working for the 'evil' west which in turns helps the west expand its hegemony/evil plans over the world. At least i respect more Iranian members here who live in Iran and support their country grow/rise against the west. they have more credibility IMO.

Don't be such a douchebag Mikey. There is a GIGANTIC difference in blowing up a military barracks of an occupier from 10.000 miles away, and bombing a market square in Baghdad, full of civilians. If you can't see the difference, there is no saving you. Supporting an event from over 35 years ago has no harm. It did good. Why? The occupiers left. Quite simple. I used to be very pro-West. The problem is, the west is trying to break up my two homelands.

Talking about Iranians doesn't concern you. I was born where I was born, and I love it here. So I have to move to Iran and type to you? Silly child.

Yes, I can say, Google 'Turkish atrocities' or Armenian genocide, if you that's how you want to bring a proof. That's not going to work. None of those allegations have ever been proved and all has been denied by Hezbollah, all of them.

Don't forget that there is a huge interest for Israel/west/Gulf Arabs to tarnish Hezbollah's image and they will do whatever they can, literally, to achieve it.



What have you seen?

The armenian genocide is a hoax. It was a forceful removal/displacement of people who had been backstabbing Turkey DURING an existential war, and abetting with the Russians who wanted to destroy Turkey. You're damn right Turkey had every right to remove every single traitor off it's land.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I would like to note that Hamas and Hezbollah both have much wider support than Al Qaeda, one of the reasons being their combative stance against Israel which muslims around the world believe is a rogue, illegal state. Also Hezbollah supports education, has made a game, prefers progress, education and favours basic human advancement. Al Qaeda on the other hand is a blood thirsty murderous organization bent on imposing their cult on us. It is far more violent and has an evil ideology.

There is no comparison between Hezbollah and Al Qaeda or for that matter the ISIS or the Taliban. Such a comparison is truly, genuinely unfair. Persians and Turks have been historically at war. It is time to put this dispute behind. We Pakistanis should try and bridge the gap between the 2 nations.

at least Hezbollah is disciplined and knows how to put up a fight....HAMAS on the other hand has slowly become a toothless, visionless organization. They had the nerve to declare "victory" after israel ended its terroristic bombardment of Ghaza last year. Most of the land was destroyed, so many innocent casualties - they could hardly put a tiny dent against israeli military. The blockade in Egypt didnt help much either

 

[Serpentine]

None of those Armenian allegations have been proved.
What have you seen?


Show me some of what you have seen here really or open a thread about it, let's see what bullsh*t you have

Did you even read why I mentioned 'Armenian genocide'? Read my post again, then delete your post. I'd do it if I were you.

@IR-TR you read my post again too. I mentioned it to counter @xenon54 way to prove that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, by simply Googling it. It won't work. Even if you search for 'humans on mars', Google will show some results and pics, does it mean it happened?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I have seen a great exsample for Hezbollah education recently, yes they indeed care about education.

it's a political organization with a militant wing....they are like the Shiia version of the Afghan taleban except in the case of hezbollah there is no ethnic dimension - just political/sectarian. After 2006 many sunnis openly supported Hezbollah. In Afghanistan you had Pashtuns who were anti taleban but also anti NATO which made them take sides with talebs.

There will always be regional, ethnic and other dynamics which create alliances.

On education - my understanding is that Hezbollah isnt anti education or anti sports or supporting suppression of women. They have extremist leanings but i wouldnt call them a terrorist organization per se -- not on the same league as ISIS or al qaeda which will bomb 1,000 civilians in order to attack one politican, willing to destroy ancient religious sites and artifacts or force 12 year old girls to become pregnant baby factories

 

[xenon54 out]

On education - my understanding is that Hezbollah isnt anti education or anti sports or supporting suppression of women. They have extremist leanings but i wouldnt call them a terrorist organization per se -- not on the same league as ISIS or al qaeda which will bomb 1,000 civilians in order to attack one politican, willing to destroy ancient religious sites and artifacts or force 12 year old girls to become pregnant baby factories

The exact same is being said about pkk, then i would say they also arent terrorist group per se in your eyes is that right?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

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calling on Turks and Iranians to unite......be UNITED not DIVI-DEAD

The exact same is being said about pkk, then i would say they also arent terrorist group per se in your eyes is that right?

PKK engages in terrorism on soft targets and has the blood of scores of civilians on its hands. So no- i would not view them as the same.

ISIS is more brutal than PKK, but that doesnt absolve PKK of its previous and ongoing sins.

 

[IR-TR]

Did you even read why I mentioned 'Armenian genocide'? Read my post again, then delete your post. I'd do it if I were you.

@IR-TR you read my post again too. I mentioned it to counter @xenon54 way to prove that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, by simply Googling it. It won't work. Even if you search for 'humans on mars', Google will show some results and pics, does it mean it happened?

Oh I know he's bs'ing about hezbollah, they're just a resistance group, nothing more. Terrorists kill civilians to cause fear and unrest.

About the armenian thing, no. It's no genocide. Genocide needs the intent to systematically kill. The events of 1915 were a forced removal of a largely restive, and active 5th column population, that sided with Turkey's enemies DURING war. Nothing bad about that. Sad so many had to perish, but it was an existential threat.

The exact same is being said about pkk, then i would say they also arent terrorist group per se in your eyes is that right?

Pkk kills civilians and does much harm to an entire country/region. Hezbollah fights either against zionists or takfiris isis'ists. So no, can't compare the two.

 

[xenon54 out]

PKK engages in terrorism on soft targets and has the blood of scores of civilians on its hands. So no- i would not view them as the same.

Well so does hezbollah...

ISIS is more brutal than PKK, but that doesnt absolve PKK of its previous and ongoing sins.

Ironic considering i was the first one to come up with this argument regarding isis terrorists and the rest of the other terrorist groups.

 

[IR-TR]

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calling on Turks and Iranians to unite......be UNITED not DIVI-DEAD



PKK engages in terrorism on soft targets and has the blood of scores of civilians on its hands. So no- i would not view them as the same.

ISIS is more brutal than PKK, but that doesnt absolve PKK of its previous and ongoing sins.

The two can't unite sadly. They're not allowed to. Even if uniting would solve most of their problems.

 

[bsruzm]

Did you even read why I mentioned 'Armenian genocide'? Read my post again, then delete your post. I'd do it if I were you.

@IR-TR you read my post again too. I mentioned it to counter @xenon54 way to prove that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, by simply Googling it. It won't work. Even if you search for 'humans on mars', Google will show some results and pics, does it mean it happened?

Yes, I did read your post but still 'If you personally believe' such thing (most Persians do for some reason) I would like to see what you have.
People often come with baseless claims and use them against Turkey, that falsified genocide is one of them.

Not 'google' but 'Syrian people' soon will say what Hezbollah is, imo.

 

[Azeri440]

God, Iranians can be rude. Especially that Farsi lady from London.

that woman has the most annoying voice I've ever encountered

 

[Aramagedon]

I don't know what turks do feed.

They are proud of F$$$A who has made hell out of Syria for 4 years and their terrorist government support ISIS vampires everyday. They genocide Kurds and respond their protestation by iron fist!

They have fuked Syria for 4 years and they condemn hezbollah heroes, the ones who give their life to defend independence and glory of Lebanon. Mind blowing!!!!!

Probably you don't understand fatherland and honour, you are only in love with your sick zombies in Syria.

 

[Malik Alashter]

that woman has the most annoying voice I've ever encountered

Looool That's sooo funny @Azeri440 BTW is it her voice that annoying you or her point?.

 

[Bismarck]

I don't know what turks do feed.

They are proud of F$$$A who has made hell out of Syria for 4 years and their terrorist government support ISIS vampires everyday. They genocide Kurds and respond their protestation by iron fist!

They have fuked Syria for 4 years and they condemn hezbollah heroes, the ones who give their life to defend independence and glory of Lebanon. Mind blowing!!!!!

Probably you don't understand fatherland and honour, you are only in love with your sick zombies in Syria.

Some one call PKK as heroes, some one as terrorists. Some call Hezbollah as heroes, some one as terrorists. Some one calls Iran as the most terror supporter, worldwide, some as heroes. Is seems it is all depend on point of view.

You say they life to defend independence. Independence from whom? Iran? You say fight for glory, which glory you mean?

If you like PKK so much, why do you defeat PJAK?