Turkish Authorities Prevents Thousands of Turkish Citizens from Protesting

[Syrian Lion]

Turkish Authorities Prevents Thousands of Turkish Citizens from Protesting Their Government's Hostile Policies towards Syria



Apr 15, 2012

The Turkish authorities on Sunday prevented thousands of Turkish citizens from various citizens from reaching the squares of Antioch to protest their government's hostile policies towards Syria.

Despite this, a number of citizens managed to reach the gathering areas, voicing surprise over how Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan can make statements about freedom and democracy while preventing them from expressing their opinions.

The participants said that this gathering aims at preserving the fraternity between the Syrian and Turkish people instead of creating strife and bringing about war, stressing that the Turkish people and the political forces opposing Erdogan's government support their Syrian brethren.

They also called upon their country's government to cease its constant hostile campaigns against Syria

Member of the Turkish Communist Party, Salih Bostanci, said "while Libyan murderers and criminals wander around our country and use its facilities and hotels, we couldn't go to Antioch just for the sake of peace… we were met by security terrorism without any legal justification… our busses were confiscated, and their drivers and a number of colleagues were arrested."

Syrian Arab news agency - SANA - Syria : Syria news ::

 

[RayKalm]

Hmm, quite surprising.

 

[Deno]

People are sooo ignorant against our as we call it İleri Demokrasi '' Advanced Democracy ''... You need a lesson,

An Advanced Democracy '' İleri Demokrasi '' means that you will critisize every country on earth like China (blamed with Genocide), India ( Blamed with Genocide ), Israel (Blamed with Genocide ), Austuria ( Blamed with intolarancebecause of an Imams death while at that time in Turkey both Hrant Dink and a Priest was killed by extremists ), Germany ( Blamed with intolarance for some idiotic racist group killing of Turkish Germans while again there was deaths of some Missioners killed by extremist idiots ) for being undemocratic and intolerant while you are beating up your own fellow citizens because of protests You really need to learn more about Turkey


See!!! Such a democracy!!!


P.S: Our freedom of choice is tens of times better when its compered to other Middle Eastern States. This was just about hypocricy regarding this stuation. And I still support overthrowing Assad family.

 

[RayKalm]

P.S: Our freedom of choice is tens of times better when its compered to other Middle Eastern States. This was just about hypocricy regarding this stuation. And I still support overthrowing Assad family.

While this is true, that Turkey has far more freedom than Arab and many Muslim countries, I think Syrian Lion was trying to get the "double standards" point across.

 

[Syrian Lion]

P.S: Our freedom of choice is tens of times better when its compered to other Middle Eastern States. This was just about hypocricy regarding this stuation. And I still support overthrowing Assad family.

If you are trying to spread/ preach democracy, you have to be a role model ? yes? We saw the American democracy in Iraq, and Libya. WE DON'T WANT THAT DEMOCRACY. NEITHER THE ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT KIND OF A ROLE MODEL YOU ARE BEING WHEN YOU STOP YOUR OWN PEOPLE FROM PROTESTING, IS THAT THE DEMOCRACY YOU ARE SPREADING?

 

[RayKalm]

If you are trying to spread/ preach democracy, you have to be a role model ? yes? We saw the American democracy in Iraq, and Libya. WE DON'T WANT THAT DEMOCRACY. NEITHER THE ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT KIND OF A ROLE MODEL YOU ARE BEING WHEN YOU STOP YOUR OWN PEOPLE FROM PROTESTING, IS THAT THE DEMOCRACY YOU ARE SPREADING?

Look at how our ambassador to the U.N security council described the situation - basically we're against the killing of innocents, but respect the sovereignty of Syria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d26W3pkNFkk

 

[Quasar]

SANA, syrian arab news agency!

the same Ba'ath Party mentality with Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf

'' The infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad... Be assured, Baghdad is safe, protected. Iraqis are heroes."

"As our leader Saddam Hussein said, 'God is grilling their stomachs in hell."

"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!

"They tried to bring a small number of tanks and personnel carriers in through al-Durah but they were surrounded and most of their infidels had their throats cut."

"We made them drink poison last night"

"Saddam Hussein's soldiers and his great forces gave the Americans a lesson which will not be forgotten by history. Truly."

"God willing, I will provide you with more information. I swear by God, I swear by God, those who are staying in Washington and London have thrown these mercenaries in a crematorium."

 

[Banu Umayyah]

Turkish democracy:

But still a thousand times better than rest of ME.

 

[Saithan]

Turkish democracy:

But still a thousand times better than rest of ME.

People get hotheaded and fight, I think it's because people who go into the red field start using insults or such that things like this erupts. This kind of fighting also occur in some asian countries as well

I think that the concept of freedom and democracy in Turkey is a good model, because as I see/percieve it no one is above the law, so if you're mixed in some kind of conspiracy you can be indicted in ongoing cases e.g. Ergenekon.

Of course it has its own drawbacks, lenghty trials etc. and journalists who're humans before anything else, can also be indicted. I don't see this as being wrong. Because being a journalist shouldn't mean you are above the law or that you can screw around either.

Perhaps if Turkey had a strong independant media/journalist institution that could unleash a penalty or bar journalists from calling themselves journalists (or cancel their presscard) then we could work on a better judicial solution.

 

[mehmeTcc]

If you are trying to spread/ preach democracy, you have to be a role model ? yes? We saw the American democracy in Iraq, and Libya. WE DON'T WANT THAT DEMOCRACY. NEITHER THE ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT KIND OF A ROLE MODEL YOU ARE BEING WHEN YOU STOP YOUR OWN PEOPLE FROM PROTESTING, IS THAT THE DEMOCRACY YOU ARE SPREADING?

Idiot, if they can have a legal permit, they can do their protest freely. Our country is not dictatorship, as you can see.

 

[Saithan]

Idiot, if they can have a legal permit, they can do their protest freely. Our country is not dictatorship, as you can see.

There is no need to use profanity, in all Democracies if you want to stage a protest then you have to inform the security forces, so they can set up protection etc.

Democracy doesn't mean you can do as you want without adhering to the rule of law, that would be anarchy.

 

[Secur]

But still a thousand times better than rest of ME.

" Democracy " is a pretty rich word coming from your lot ... I know what happens in your respective countries !

So stop pondering over democracy and concentrate over " His Majesty " and " Absolute Power " concepts ...

 

[Cerian]

By the way, those who wanted to protest were members of Communist Party of Turkey, whom protest over almost anything state does.

 

[Deno]

There is no need to use profanity, in all Democracies if you want to stage a protest then you have to inform the security forces, so they can set up protection etc.

Democracy doesn't mean you can do as you want without adhering to the rule of law, that would be anarchy.

Actually, you can look at France for an example. French Green Peace activists broke into nuclear sites and show the world the inefficiency pf French security... They weren't even arrested. Or Look at EU, people there doesn't even need to get a permission for their protest. They just need to remain calm and retain themselves from being destructive....

Edit: And in Turkey we protesters just hope that Police Force would remain calm and retain themselves from being destructive against theirown fellow citizens.

 

[Saithan]

Actually, you can look at France for an example. French Green Peace activists broke into nuclear sites and show the world the inefficiency pf French security... They weren't even arrested. Or Look at EU, people there doesn't even need to get a permission for their protest. They just need to remain calm and retain themselves from being destructive....

Edit: And in Turkey we protesters just hope that Police Force would remain calm and retain themselves from being destructive against theirown fellow citizens.

The part about protesting in EU is not completely true, in Denmark you need to notify the police about protests, and you have to do the same in Germany.

The reason you have to notify them is because they need to setup barriers or station police around different places to make sure the protestors or others don't cause incidents. Often if you want to stage a protest in a keypoint you may be rejected.

E.g. if you want to stage a protest in Beyoglu or Taksim then the police may reject your wish and tell you to stage your protest on a hill top far away from public. I have seen protests in the center of Ankara kizilay, and it was a peaceful one, but that was some 10 years ago I think. But the police was around to ensure no riot started or erupted.